DIY E-Nail

budbro18

budbro18

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Flagg420 said:
I work maintenance in a 170 room hotel... wee bit of experience now with playing with hot wires, over the past year or 2 lol...
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Than it should be easy as can be for you. Wire the switch, Connect your neutrals, one to pid, one to coil. connect all your hots, One to the PID, one to the SSR, then connect SSR output to coil hot. Then connect SSR to PID, then thermocouple to PID. Throw all your grounds in, one to pid one to coil one to ssr.

Done. Run autotune a few times let the coil burn in and get up to temp a few times and enjoy. Youve got all the equipment already and can probably solder pretty well so shouldnt be hard at all.
 
kwon

kwon

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I just wired everything and turned on my enail for the first time. Im using an omron pid and its so far reading the ambient temperature. I tried going through the settings but I cant figure out how to get it to heat up and autotune. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
MR Zulu

MR Zulu

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kwon said:
I just wired everything and turned on my enail for the first time. Im using an omron pid and its so far reading the ambient temperature. I tried going through the settings but I cant figure out how to get it to heat up and autotune. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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what's the model of Omron?
 
MR Zulu

MR Zulu

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Ogrusher said:
Thanks

also wat brand of parts n model r the best
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Well that's more preference, I personally like the Omron E5CN , E5CC & the MyPIN TA4 & TA8, some people frown at the Mypin but I have had success with them so idk you decide for your self , for SSR I use one that has a output rating of "25a @ 24v-380v DA SSR from FOTEk or Omron " .... now you can pick what ever XLR or Xlr Mini plug you want.... and for coil..... I don't like to give out my source ... but its in Shenzhen china....... but I have them make to spec that I give them, & bit follows... 16-22MM Internal Diameter with a length of about 5 inches with a slight bend at the end to take off the stress from the down stem , but its a 100w/110v-220v max , TC type K, 5 Pin XLR & Mini's , Military Grade Kevlar sleeve, @ about a 4 Foot cord. I do some times have a little fun with the Alarms on the PID's I will attach LED's or other diode's for a neat look,
LMK if you need any other help.... I can also provide you some parts Via Payment & pay pal with a verified address that is ..... { ATTN Admins..... this is in no way advertisement just trying to help out my community, if I have violated some rule of yours I'm sorry, I'm new and will edit this post.}
 
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MR Zulu

MR Zulu

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kwon said:
I just wired everything and turned on my enail for the first time. Im using an omron pid and its so far reading the ambient temperature. I tried going through the settings but I cant figure out how to get it to heat up and autotune. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Also it could possible that you have the TC- & TC+ in reverse ?
 
MR Zulu

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MR Zulu

MR Zulu

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bryanoi92 said:
Hey man do u think you can help me with my enail? I have a omron e5cc PID and everything is connected but for some reason it wont heat up
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Do you have a multi meter? If you do. Check your Powerflow to your coil, it could be something as simple as a wire not connected and need to be re soldered. But if you don't just do a good connection check.
 
DrGreenLeaf

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I have a quick question on wiring. Have people been using the same gauge wire to wire all components, or like 20-18 gauge for control wiring and like 14 gauge for the power to coil since more power is being used by the coil?
 
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MR Zulu

MR Zulu

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DrGreenLeaf said:
I have a quick question on wiring. Have people been using the same gauge wire to wire all components, or like 20-18 gauge for control wiring and like 14 gauge for the power to coil since more power is being used by the coil?
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I have been using 14G all the way around, every now and then if I need to save a bit of space in a box I'll use 18g for my TC
 
MR Zulu

MR Zulu

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kwon said:
I just wired everything and turned on my enail for the first time. Im using an omron pid and its so far reading the ambient temperature. I tried going through the settings but I cant figure out how to get it to heat up and autotune. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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hey got a quick question for you, I have never had this issue with the Omron E5CC before but I'm haveing the same issue with it only reading the ambient temperature, I have gone in and started the auto tune ( normally only takes a hour) and it tuned for over 4 hours and only got to 83 degrees, I'm thinking it may be my ssr because the light doesn't light up all that bright. But what did you have to do to get it to stop with the temp ambient temp reading and not heating?
 
DrGreenLeaf

DrGreenLeaf

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MR Zulu said:
I have been using 14G all the way around, every now and then if I need to save a bit of space in a box I'll use 18g for my TC
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OK, that's pretty much what I figured. Thought I read in the auber instructions could use 20AWG for everything on the pid side of the SSR. The output of the SSR, which actually powers the coil needs to be gauged according to the load. Makes sense, and can obviously save $$ and will take up less space.

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so I found out my issue through process of elimination...... ..... My pid is a dud not my ssr..... Soooo this is what I found, I started testing everything to make sure the right voltages was right ... I get to my output on my pid and its only putting out 2.7v ( Damn it!! ) well my ssr needs at least 3v to trigger. So now I get to buy another pid And I'm almost certain that the eBay seller wont send a new one but on the plus side I have a nifty thermometer till then
 
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MR Zulu said:
so I found out my issue through process of elimination...... ..... My pid is a dud not my ssr..... Soooo this is what I found, I started testing everything to make sure the right voltages was right ... I get to my output on my pid and its only putting out 2.7v ( Damn it!! ) well my ssr needs at least 3v to trigger. So now I get to buy another pid And I'm almost certain that the eBay seller wont send a new one but on the plus side I have a nifty thermometer till then
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I personally have stayed away from purchasing items off eBay. I chose to go with Auber for my first build. Outta Georgia, and they actually make their own enail makes the support that much better. I've always been a D.I.Y type, work maintenance, hvac background so this was pretty easy to put together. My coil and quartz banger should arrive on Friday. So I still need a female xlr connector. I saw that you recommended one that was like $43 dollars or something like that... was wondering why that one when there are a ton of others for a few $$ ??

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