DiY LED - Cree CXA3070

PetFlora

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So I'm guessing multiple panels.

I would stagger them 5 on one, 4 on the next then 5 to create even light distribution



Hello all,

Thank you all for sharing! What an excellent thread, I am truly grateful.

I've decided to build some lights and just purchased...

20-CXA3070-0000-000N00Z230F
20-Arctic Alpine 11GT - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7983377
24-http://www.fasttech.com/product/1320606 extras per SupraSPL..thank you

I'll be attempting to create 4 foot flowering lights using...http://www.homedepot.com/p/Veranda-1-1-2-in-x-5-1-2-in-x-8-ft-Vinyl-White-Ranch-Rail-135040/203008796

Can't decide if I should use 4 or 5 lights per rail. There will be enough room to add more lights at a later date.

Thoughts?

Again, THANK YOU!
 

Westnewton

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Jeepers, West, you don't mess around, do you?

Are you thinking of hanging the CPU coolers from the vinyl fencing? Vinyl fencing is very heavy for the amount of rigidity that you get. I'd be inclined to try unistrut or something similar...
Actually I'm thinking of setting the cpu coolers within the rail. Each 4 foot rail weighs 4 lbs. I don't believe that would be too heavy. I also like how the rail is hollow, hopefully it will be a great place to hide all the wires.
 

Westnewton

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So I'm guessing multiple panels.

I would stagger them 5 on one, 4 on the next then 5 to create even light distribution

Good point! I'm definitely going to consider that once all the items arrive. Just ordered it all last night, guessing the drivers from fasttech will take the longest. Scheduled to the 25th with up to 2 weeks delivery.

SupraSPL, how long did it take to receive the drivers from fasttech.
 

tallen

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Took Supra 3 weeks (I'd already asked) but I got mine in just under 2 weeks

The rail idea sounds good, I'm planning on using plywood since I have some lying around but may look into the rails instead.

Hopefully this weekend I'll have time to get a light built, had all the parts for a week now, just haven't had the time.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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Anyone ever consider 315w philips agro lol. I mean really. Comparable efficiency with 'the other aspects' of lighting and NO time consumption. Just look up the 930/agro/greenpower (many aliases) and tell me what it's missing. Sorry...I couldn't bite my tongue anymore.
 

Chronikool

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Anyone ever consider 315w philips agro lol. I mean really. Comparable efficiency with 'the other aspects' of lighting and NO time consumption. Just look up the 930/agro/greenpower (many aliases) and tell me what it's missing. Sorry...I couldn't bite my tongue anymore.
That is true....but there is something magical that happens when you create your own LED array.....sort of like when you finish having sex and use Hyrootz quilt to clean up...satisfaction right there... :D
 

Positivity

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Lol...that's some funny shit

i wish the cmh had worked out for me. Was going to buy the sunsystem then found out its a all in one..wanted to use my own reflector choice. Called dna to order one of theirs...only in 240v. Looked at advanced lightings system...home built rig pretty much.

said screw it, I'll wait till there's better options. Bought a shitload of led parts..
 

RedCarpetMatches

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Lol...that's some funny shit

i wish the cmh had worked out for me. Was going to buy the sunsystem then found out its a all in one..wanted to use my own reflector choice. Called dna to order one of theirs...only in 240v. Looked at advanced lightings system...home built rig pretty much.

said screw it, I'll wait till there's better options. Bought a shitload of led parts..
DNA has an electrical 120v combo for 380$...without hood, but with socket. Advanced tech is coming out (next week) with 120v kits that are very affordable. Blue + Red + UV + greens = bigger yields than any LED...with no sanding, calculating, and soldering. Just a wash up quilt.
 

SupraSPL

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What do you cut your heatsinks with and how do you do it??? I want to use some of my at120's and make something to toy around...Cutting the heatsink up into sections is a major key to my plan.

Thanks
HeatsinkUSA charges a flat $5 cutting fee for as many horizontal cuts as you need and they do a beautiful job of course. In the case of my vegging heatsinks that need to be cut, I am using a heavy duty jigsaw with metal blades. Of course it is not the ideal way to make a cut but since it is only 2 cuts I don't want to invest in any new tools and I will file it down smooth afterward.
 

Positivity

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Good to know..thanks.

Does dna have a 315w 120v? Last I called they only had the bigger systems in 120v oddly enough.

little too late now though. Leds are doing great and no real reason to switch now. Plus can't dim the cmh...I love that feature if you didn't notice...lol.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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Good to know..thanks.

Does dna have a 315w 120v? Last I called they only had the bigger systems in 120v oddly enough.

little too late now though. Leds are doing great and no real reason to switch now. Plus can't dim the cmh...I love that feature if you didn't notice...lol.
What's dimming for? If that's what you want the philips ballast kit from advancedtech dims. DNA electric ballast is 120v.
 

SupraSPL

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Hello all,

Thank you all for sharing! What an excellent thread, I am truly grateful.

I've decided to build some lights and just purchased...

20-CXA3070-0000-000N00Z230F
20-Arctic Alpine 11GT - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7983377
24-http://www.fasttech.com/product/1320606 extras per SupraSPL..thank you

I'll be attempting to create 4 foot flowering lights using...http://www.homedepot.com/p/Veranda-1-1-2-in-x-5-1-2-in-x-8-ft-Vinyl-White-Ranch-Rail-135040/203008796

Can't decide if I should use 4 or 5 lights per rail. There will be enough room to add more lights at a later date.

Thoughts?

Again, THANK YOU!
Very cool setup! I like the idea of running the wires inside the tubes. I used 2X3's which are very heavy but very strong. I have to support 60 pounds of aluminum so I needed the strength and the wiring in the rigging is very prominent lol.

Looks like you have got some of the last few remaining CXA3070 3000K Z2s. Arrow still has some but they sell in blocks of 20.
 

SupraSPL

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Took Supra 3 weeks (I'd already asked) but I got mine in just under 2 weeks

The rail idea sounds good, I'm planning on using plywood since I have some lying around but may look into the rails instead.

Hopefully this weekend I'll have time to get a light built, had all the parts for a week now, just haven't had the time.
Luckily my next 2 fasttech orders got here quicker, about 2 weeks like yours.

I know what you mean I still have LEDs I ordered about a year ago waiting to be installed!
 

SupraSPL

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Anyone ever consider 315w philips agro lol. I mean really. Comparable efficiency with 'the other aspects' of lighting and NO time consumption. Just look up the 930/agro/greenpower (many aliases) and tell me what it's missing. Sorry...I couldn't bite my tongue anymore.
A very nice 3100K spectrum with lots of deep red but I suspect its efficiency is not on par with the CXA3070. It claims 105lm/W and that is just the initial lumens, it suffers from 5% lumen depreciation/year ($100 bulb not too bad to replace). So if you average it to 100lm/W, even though it has lots of deep red in the spectrum, its efficiency is probably in the low 30s. And finally the biggest problem, it shines in all directions so it suffers very significant reflector losses (25%?) before reaching the canopy.

It does seem to have some problems with availability, and what ballasts does it work with that are actually available? But if you are going to use HID, I agree this is where its at.
 

Positivity

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What's dimming for? If that's what you want the philips ballast kit from advancedtech dims. DNA electric ballast is 120v.
Dimmng is to control my electric costs mostly. Some months I don't mind a bigger bill and some months I need to watch every penny. 360w is a lot for me, I've usually provided for myself with 250w or less. It's nice having the high power option and not always having to use it.

Also for my vision too though, I dim the lights to minimum anytime I'm in the tent.

I'll give dna and advanced a call. Would like to try a 315 cmh out, I don't discriminate, if cmh is better ill have some awesome led veg lights..lol
 

SupraSPL

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9 weeks time to chop them. None of these ladies were pre selected they are all experimental from seeds, but yield looks like it will be decent and quality on some of them looks like it will be excellent. There were a few weeks of HPS in the mid cycle and average power was 627W. I think the HPS crippled my grams/W lol.

DNA Stacked Kush - Rotten fruit. Yield looks like it will be good. A bit slow to finish but if it smokes good, a definite keeper.


DNA 0G18 - unbelievably hard dense ice nuggets, some bigger than golf balls.


HSO Blue Dream - defintiely has the bluebeery smell and very strong aroma, very sticky.


TH Seeds Dark Star - this one has the best OG aroma and very strong. Looks like it will be a decent yielder and very frosty.


The whole shabang - 5-6 feet deep
 

MrFlux

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A very nice 3100K spectrum with lots of deep red but I suspect its efficiency is not on par with the CXA3070. It claims 105lm/W and that is just the initial lumens, it suffers from 5% lumen depreciation/year ($100 bulb not too bad to replace). So if you average it to 100lm/W, even though it has lots of deep red in the spectrum, its efficiency is probably in the low 30s. And finally the biggest problem, it shines in all directions so it suffers very significant reflector losses (25%?) before reaching the canopy.
To be fair to the CMH lamp, it's doing 1.9 umol/J which is a tiny little better than the COBs we're using, and the electronic balasts for it can have an efficiency of 95%.
 

SupraSPL

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95% ballast is pretty awesome. Some of my 900mA drivers are operating at 91% which made my day.

The 1.9 umol/J figure is including infrared and UV unless I misunderstand? If our math is correct, the CXA3070 3000K Z2 bin at 900mA is 2.56 umol/J in the PAR range.

Would it be possible to extract an LER from this data considering the PAR range alone:
"This is the spd chart for the 930" Mastercolor CDM-T Elite 315W/930 T9
120 lumens/Watt



or this:
"860w Allstart CMH when run at 1000w with magnetic ballast m47"
 

SupraSPL

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This one shows the big spike of infrared hiding in there
"this is the spd chart for the Agro that came out of Gavita's testing -"
 
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