DIY: pH Up - EASY!

Dannoo93

Dannoo93

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oregon024 said:
Why are you doing this.Someone who know how to grow does not use shit not needed.PH up.If you are a science student or some shit please practice somewere else.Some people here use this as medicen because they are ill.And need good advice.You need to educate your self on this plant more before giving advice.Someone out there may be trying to save their garden.oregon024
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ya man do be rude its a forum he can post as he pleases as long as he follows the rules if someone trys this im sure they know the possible consiquenses as its a diy thing and its never guarenteed so you good sir need to smoke a bowl and chill
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I counsel against using sodium hydroxide. I use potassium hydroxide for the purpose. It's less of an issue in soil, but in hydro I like to limit sodium ion. cn
 
ChuffinHoolies

ChuffinHoolies

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Where's what I did. I took a small mason jar, used approx one cup water. I added maybe 5-6 sugar spoons of ash, mixed, I used an old medicine plunger, used a few squirts of my ash-water to balance two litre of juice.

I guess you could mix your ash concentrate however you want. But that's what worked for me. I just trial n error'd that shit.

And for how little I'm gonna use, for the few waterings in three months she will drink. I doubt much of a harm will arise from using it. But this is a test so who knows , I could just as easy do harm. I will report my findings here for you all.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Enigma said:
FYI..since people seem to think I'm a dumby:

"Warnings
Some plants can't handle any kind of baking soda solutions. If you are unsure, test your plant's tolerance by applying a very small amount of the sodium bicarbonate water solution to a few leaves. If the leaves burn or the plant shows signs of weakening, do not proceed with any further applications. For all plants, it is a good idea to thoroughly water them as normal in the days preceding a baking soda treatment. Also, spray them in the morning or early evening to avoid direct sunlight."
Read more: Effects of Sodium Bicarbonate on Plant Growth | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5611895_effects-sodium-bicarbonate-plant-growth.html#ixzz1BivPFTiV
Corrosive and caustic are, in comparison, not even close.
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This thread was started years ago!

I've used SBicarb for decades and have NEVER had a problem with it's use with Canna ! (I can count the times I've used UP on my extremities)

As far as it being used with hydro. Your hydro should not be going down at all. It goes up and you set it back down. If your having problems with it rising. Better start looking for root problems!

Hell kiddies. The stuff you buy is really no better for your plants then what you would use from home. In fact the normal contents of commercial "down" will hurt any Myco's/bio's your using!

The bottom line is why bother with (very) possible injury from mixing dangerous chems to save a few bucks?

Grow smart
 
ChuffinHoolies

ChuffinHoolies

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Dr. Who said:
This thread was started years ago!

I've used SBicarb for decades and have NEVER had a problem with it's use with Canna ! (I can count the times I've used UP on my extremities)


Grow smart
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Do I understand this correct? You have little need for ph up?
When mixing your nutes,is it a base? are you mostly using ph down to balance?

I ask, because I have the opposite issue. My juice, when mixed is (liquid ph test) is around 4.0 and I need UP to balance.

Is this common to have nutrients on either side of the scale? Some needing UP, and some needing down?

Could this be the difference between liquid and dry foods?

Cheers all!
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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ChuffinHoolies said:
Do I understand this correct? You have little need for ph up?
When mixing your nutes,is it a base? are you mostly using ph down to balance?

I ask, because I have the opposite issue. My juice, when mixed is (liquid ph test) is around 4.0 and I need UP to balance.

Is this common to have nutrients on either side of the scale? Some needing UP, and some needing down?

Could this be the difference between liquid and dry foods?

Cheers all!
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Hmm. sounds like your using organic nutes? They are the only one's that I've had start "down" and need to be up'ed.
What brand and line are you using?
Whats the water at ?
Adding a Silica? How?
Baking soda actually needs little to do lots......I never had a problem with it in hydro!

And Yeah, most and I do mean MOST need to be set down in hydro......synthetics

Now if your pH is dropping instead of rising in your res.....you have a problem somewhere..
 
ChuffinHoolies

ChuffinHoolies

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I am using general hydroponics maxi-series. little bags of dry. Been mixing. My water is around 7.
Yes growing in soil. Hmmp. Oh well. I do have a decent "organic derivative" ph up now. But I was just curious what other peoples food was at. Thanks bro
 
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churchhaze

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ChuffinHoolies said:
Do I understand this correct? You have little need for ph up?
When mixing your nutes,is it a base? are you mostly using ph down to balance?

I ask, because I have the opposite issue. My juice, when mixed is (liquid ph test) is around 4.0 and I need UP to balance.

Is this common to have nutrients on either side of the scale? Some needing UP, and some needing down?

Could this be the difference between liquid and dry foods?

Cheers all!
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The difference is water. If you have low ppm water, it's common that some hydroponics solution at normal strength to bring the pH of the reservoir to 4.0. With high ppm tap, you need pH down (unless you're using hard water nutrients).
 
ChuffinHoolies

ChuffinHoolies

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churchhaze said:
The difference is water. If you have low ppm water, it's common that some hydroponics solution at normal strength to bring the pH of the reservoir to 4.0. With high ppm tap, you need pH down (unless you're using hard water nutrients).
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Interesting. I did not know that. On that note. You mentioned that some hydro solutions "at normal strength" will drop low ppm water ph to 4. I am using approx 1/4 strength and still reading in the red.
Our water is city water.from an old appartment building. I'm sure there has got to be some high ppm in there. lol.

I guess I should invest in a ppm meter.

I know your not meaning litteral, or that in every case that is what to expect, but.
Do you have any links to help me better understand what is going on? With the water/nute/ppm/ph anomaly? (Could one half- assume that Low ppm water needs ph up,? High ppm water needs ph down?)
 
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churchhaze

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ChuffinHoolies said:
(Could one half- assume that Low ppm water needs ph up,? High ppm water needs ph down?)
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High ppm tap water almost always means lots of calcium carbonate (lime) in the water. Nutrients that tend to be acidic will not be able to lower the pH very much because of the carbonate buffer. Yes, when I use RO or distilled water, I generally have to use pH up, but with high ppm tap, I have to use lots of pH down.
 
Enigma

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@churchhaze - Based on something you mentioned about sodium (Na) causing problems with potassium (K) in aqueous solution, which is a completely valid statement, due to a higher valence than potassium this thread should be amended. At the time I wrote this thread the cheapest and readily available solution for adjusting the pH was an off the shelf drain cleaner. Since then, I've found an alternative that utilizes potassium instead of sodium. Amazon sells a flake form 2 lb. container for $8.

I'm glad churchhaze mentioned something about sodium competing with potassium or I wouldn't have made this amendment.

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Dumme

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For cannabis, Sodium shold be very low anyways, as the plant doesn't like it; like no more than 0.5-1.0ppm.
 
Enigma

Enigma

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Hop off meh nutz.

I know you want to be somebody, really bad.. but running your mouth about something you do not understand only proves how much of a fool you are.
 
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