DIY watercooled photosynthetic-research LED-Lamp completed build, tell me what u think

frica

frica

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Hybridway said:
Not sure if this would help here but I've experimented w/ colored t-5's in veg. For about a year to see my plant responses.
Not sure if anyone else has noticed it & now w/ the Hortilux Power Veg line up (all the ranges of colors) people can determine more for themselves or at least have the opportunity w/o having to buy tubes online from coral companies.
I noticed negative plant responses from the Atinic (Blue) bulbs. With that said, I feel they prefer their blues to come from white bulbs or sources.
So maybe have your grower try the blues w/ the cobs n shut the others down when you get a chance. If you find the same thing happens (my Atinics were mixed w/ whites) then maybe focus on just filling the gaps w/ the blues on low power under & above 450nm n shut off the 450. Amare uses 65k for their blue w/ one 470 around each cob. Fills the spectrum nicely. Maybe they saw the same thing in testing. Dunno.
Just something to try out seeing how you can here. Maybe the blend w/ a higher power white source (cob) makes this a mute point. Interested to see.
As for the rest, I think it's great that you have a tunable spectrum to determine the end result. How else could you.

Pet, nice work on that plant BTW! Looking good!
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Or maybe the blue tubes had a good deal of UV.
 
Hybridway

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frica said:
Or maybe the blue tubes had a good deal of UV.
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Not that I see in their spectrum charts.
The Ultra Growth Wave spectrum worked awesome as a supplemental. Used it in veg to see the difference but also In flower as part of my side lighting. image.jpgBlue can frost it up like UV as we see w/ our 4k.
l0wbob2016 said:
gimme dat name of the company before you go haha. wanna do some research
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I lost the link. I'll post it for you if I find it again though. Here's a good indication of what I think will work. Basically the sun. Maybe peak the red more. Keep the yellow like HPS. image.jpg
Found it.
https://liftedled.com/collections/city-series-led-grow-lights
EDIT: They have great spectrums. It's the execution of the build I don't like & who knows what they're using for parts.
 
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l0wbob2016

l0wbob2016

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Hybridway said:
Not that I see in their spectrum charts.
The Ultra Growth Wave spectrum worked awesome as a supplemental. Used it in veg to see the difference but also In flower as part of my side lighting. View attachment 3915787Blue can frost it up like UV as we see w/ our 4k.

I lost the link. I'll post it for you if I find it again though. Here's a good indication of what I think will work. Basically the sun. Maybe peak the red more. Keep the yellow like HPS. View attachment 3915788
Found it.
https://liftedled.com/collections/city-series-led-grow-lights
EDIT: They have great spectrums. It's the execution of the build I don't like & who knows what they're using for parts.
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interesting concept they got, sadly it produces such a big "hotspot" and less light distribution.
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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nogod_ said:
You really will jump at any opportunity to shout your overstated involvement with a totally average lightmaker from the rooftops.

Your "expertise" is pure fantasy.

We'll never know what spectrum works best in what application with what strain until we have a tool that can incrementally and reliably adjust the spectrum. Neither your hallowed Amare, nor your forgotten Spydr can provide that kind of control. If you cant see the value in the tool Bob built and all youre here to do is spew your aspergery, non-sequitur horseshit then please find the door!
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It's not your place to tell anyone to find the door: it's not your thread. But as usual you BUTT in whenever I post.. Suggesting that I am not interested in what controlling various mono spectrums do not have value is just another example of how you jump to incorrect conclusions. Using big words doesn't make you smart, but it does point to your need to be thought of as smart
 
l0wbob2016

l0wbob2016

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PetFlora said:
It's not your place to tell anyone to find the door: it's not your thread. But as usual you BUTT in whenever I post.. Suggesting that I am not interested in what controlling various mono spectrums do not have value is just another example of how you jump to incorrect conclusions. Using big words doesn't make you smart, but it does point to your need to be thought of as smart
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Well since this isnt my forum i am not in the position to tell anyone to find the door. The only thing i want in here is some peace. If u want to discuss something personally you can write up some PM's but pls dont let the thread get off-topic for too long.
thanks
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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l0wbob2016 said:
Well since this isnt my forum i am not in the position to tell anyone to find the door. The only thing i want in here is some peace. If u want to discuss something personally you can write up some PM's but pls dont let the thread get off-topic for too long.
thanks
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I NEVER disparaged your design, merely stated it was an Amare knockoff (sans controls). You commented that he never saw Amare, and I responded 100 Monkey Syndrome, which is not a slight or negative comment. If you don't know what it means, look it up

I am very interested in what you are doing

peace
 
l0wbob2016

l0wbob2016

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PicklesRus said:
Oh yes what kind of monos? Epistar? Cree?
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sadly they are some cheap noname monos

Hybridway said:
How's it going?
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well my friend finished his run but then his damn wife turned crazy, drinking alcohol again. They will quit the relationship and everybody has to search a new place to life, but as soon as he got his new place we gonna hang the light there...

since it is illigal in my country, i wont start growing. So i have to wait for somebody to let my try this lamp in his room.
I hate it when nothing works like planned, but what can i do?
 
Hybridway

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l0wbob2016 said:
So finally my Lamp has been installed and is going to do its testrun :)

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Next to a Platinum P600:

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Turned buth on max:

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here is a link to his journal:

https://www.autoflower.net/forums/threads/mons-auto-photo-outdoor-guerillia-grow-adventure-2017.59741/page-17
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Hell ya!!!
Good to hear from you.
To bad your light wasn't closer to 600w It's gotta lot of area to cover.
X5 , 100w cobs w/ 35w arrays.
 
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l0wbob2016

l0wbob2016

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Hybridway said:
Hell ya!!!
Good to hear from you.
To bad your light wasn't closer to 600w It's gotta lot of area to cover.
X5 , 100w cobs w/ 35w arrays.
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Well if i run all on max, i got about 480w light power and it is much more intense than the P600.

He wrote me yesterday that he had to dimm the COB's down for about 30% because the plants under the COB's got some yellowing/ light green leafes in their early stadium.
 
Hybridway

Hybridway

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l0wbob2016 said:
Well if i run all on max, i got about 480w light power and it is much more intense than the P600.

He wrote me yesterday that he had to dimm the COB's down for about 30% because the plants under the COB's got some yellowing/ light green leafes in their early stadium.
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So, it runs around 350w normally right?
That's the cobs running less then 50% & the monos 25-50%?
I notice some of my strains yellow up when under the cobs to. I don't like that & it's weird cuz a plant that would normally take a 600-1000w HPS light by itself will yellow up under 300w of cob. Doesn't even make a lil sense at all & is very frustrating. They say cal-mag but I'm not seeing that making a diff. In my grows.
Some strains just don't seem to like cobs.
Another weird thing is that the same strains ran in a low intensity wh/ strip light system do not yellow up. So, it's like after 600 umols/PPF of cobs they start acting up & looking deficient.
Your light's gonna lil the Plat which only looks like it covers 3 of the 6 Potts under it.
I think the grower should take a few Potts out from under each light once they start growing for about a month. 3 under the Plat & 4 under your light would be best IMO. but then again I don't grow Autos so maybe I'm wrong. Seen some big autos from my buddies grow though. He gets around 1.5# off 3 autos under the SE-450 all the time.
Wish I could interact w/ his grow but I'm not a member & dont grow autos so really won't be a member.
Thanks for updating us though.
I think your light will do well & I like that you added all the nm's in somewhat equal amounts. Good job!
Now, alls you gotta do is throw a few costs of poly on that bitch.
 
l0wbob2016

l0wbob2016

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Hybridway said:
So, it runs around 350w normally right?
That's the cobs running less then 50% & the monos 25-50%?
I notice some of my strains yellow up when under the cobs to. I don't like that & it's weird cuz a plant that would normally take a 600-1000w HPS light by itself will yellow up under 300w of cob. Doesn't even make a lil sense at all & is very frustrating. They say cal-mag but I'm not seeing that making a diff. In my grows.
Some strains just don't seem to like cobs.
Another weird thing is that the same strains ran in a low intensity wh/ strip light system do not yellow up. So, it's like after 600 umols/PPF of cobs they start acting up & looking deficient.
Your light's gonna lil the Plat which only looks like it covers 3 of the 6 Potts under it.
I think the grower should take a few Potts out from under each light once they start growing for about a month. 3 under the Plat & 4 under your light would be best IMO. but then again I don't grow Autos so maybe I'm wrong. Seen some big autos from my buddies grow though. He gets around 1.5# off 3 autos under the SE-450 all the time.
Wish I could interact w/ his grow but I'm not a member & dont grow autos so really won't be a member.
Thanks for updating us though.
I think your light will do well & I like that you added all the nm's in somewhat equal amounts. Good job!
Now, alls you gotta do is throw a few costs of poly on that bitch.
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The pics where made when the super soil was rdy and freshly planted into the pots. They where standing under one light to get some temp.

now it looks like this:

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Gonna keep the weird yellowing in mind. maybe the right dimming does the job well enough
 
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