Dj Short 20 year old back stock seed sprout.
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Im curious Ray, what would you do?
And why do you think Im on this site responding to comments like yours and blowing up grow journals of Dj's Genetics?
....do not work with Hemp Depot or Seedsman. If they're carrying authentic Dj gear they didn't get it directly from Dj, they got it from a 3rd party and verifying them isn't possible at this time. I would like to believe on good faith and do assume that what's being offered by both Hemp Depot and Seedsman is authentic and will not say otherwise at this point. But you all need to realize how small of an enterprise Old World Genetics is. Logistically it isn't possible for Old World Genetics to supply all the seed companies that claim to have Dj gear with it. So do the math, that means that some of these companies have to be offering unauthentic gear, and if we're not in association with them, how can we verify that gear?
Om Of Medicine is however verifiably legit and we do work directly with them.
Best we can say is buyer beware and purchase directly from the breeder when possible.
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Ray black
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If you care about your customers and more so YOUR NAME, you should contact and mitigate this issue.
Not up to me to tell you how to run a business.
As a customer I will tell you my opinion and experience
Either way, I am now leaning towards the fact that your company name and product is not what the buyer might think it is. Further, you aren't doing anything to fix it. Just letting this continue / exist is not good business practice. Especially for someone who claims to be a top notch breeder.
I am going to revert back to my original feelings toward your company and leave it at that.
Your beans are junk and so is your business/attitude towards people who have been RIPPED OFF under the guise of our product.
Garbage JD.
I m out, have your forum back
But that's exactly what you're doing is telling me how to run my business. And furthermore when I asked you what you'd do you offered no solution but to "contact" the single seed center as if that's going to somehow do something. I'm not a lawyer, nor can I afford one to protect you from your own inability to be an informed consumer. Your problem is that you think if you just spend enough money on something you'll get what you want. You are a prime target for these rip-off seed companies and a perfect example of capitalistic privilege at it's best. You're like a two year old in an adults body throwing a tantrum because you can't have an ice cream cone sprinkled with diamonds.
You clearly have absolutely no idea how the industry is ran and the legal logistics behind it. It's no surprise considering your knowledge of the industry that all you can find are over-priced beans and poorly made knock off f2's.
And I'm going to revert back to my original position which is that you're a troll working for some other seed company. Bryleetch was correct, you're bat-shit loony and clearly trolling for a response.
Watch my work, you're trolling won't distract me from it...and the proof is in the pudding.
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Mr.Head
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HA!
I will never buy one of your products based on this response right here. You don't even try to contact a bank to get the stuff removed OR BUY A GOD DAMN PACK AND RUN IT YOURSELF TO SEE? You should know right!?
attitude Seedsman hempdepot are all legit banks and DON'T WANT TO SELL FAKE GEAR. It hurts their name, just like producing shit seeds that don't germ and putting them out to the public has hurt yours. Now you're trying to say it's not your fault? It's precisely your fault for not doing a damn thing to stop it, you or your father. Directly or indirectly it is your fault.
You are sitting by while people are getting fucked over and your name is associated with it and you aren't going to do anything? You don't need a lawyer to contact a bank and say the beans aren't legit.
But the beans probably are legit, there was most likely a deal with a distributor that fell threw and now you are trying to hurt sales of beans you already made the money from. You're shady as fuck the more I read from you the more clear what you are all about.
I hope anyone that reads this thread sees right threw this shit.
Can't afford a lawyer but you threaten to sue over blueberry, which by many accounts is a hermie/mutant mashup.
Any other seed company who has this massive issue with counterfeit beans would have done something about it, they would most likely offer the folks that have been ripped off a discount to get those folks to give you a chance again. Instead you are turning people like me off your gear for good.
I will never buy a JD/DJ short seed. I'm going to shoot all the most popular banks an email and link to this thread, maybe we can find out where they are getting these knock off beans from? I mean it would only help right?
I'm probably just entitled capitalist scum too. I have a feeling most people that call you on your bullshit are.
eastcoastmo
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Any ideas on what you think the genetic makeup of this PFK is JD? Looks like fire that's for sure. Does she smell like the description? Fruity, kushy?
Ray black
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Wow you are a terrible representative for yourself and your company.
Your personal insults do not bother or offend me
Maybe you should do something about this problem that you are clearly aware of instead of getting butt hurt like a child who is running his daddies business.
Daddy impressed with you being this much of a baby bitch after handing you his legacy?
I am in no way working for anyone. (Emphasis on the period)
But I promise JD, I will be telling everyone, any chance I get about my experience with you and your fucked up product
Your personal insults do not bother or offend me
Maybe you should do something about this problem that you are clearly aware of instead of getting butt hurt like a child who is running his daddies business.
Daddy impressed with you being this much of a baby bitch after handing you his legacy?
I am in no way working for anyone. (Emphasis on the period)
But I promise JD, I will be telling everyone, any chance I get about my experience with you and your fucked up product
Ray black
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Good man, yell it from the mountain top
What a joke....offer everyone who's been ripped off replacement seeds...wtf is that? So what...you buy a pair of counterfeited nike's or bought a resold pair at an astronomical mark up in some back alleyway and then harass nike for a free and or discounted replacement because you paid too much or didn't get what you wanted....and then demand that nike contact the ones doing this because they're gonna say what, "oh geez you caught us, I guess we'll just stop now."
You guys are idiots or trolls, nothing more.
You guys are idiots or trolls, nothing more.
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Mr.Head
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Discount? A little good faith a little customer service? Starting to think the customer service bit is beyond you. I never said "Free", I don't think people expect free, I said discount, big big difference. People like to save money. If you offered em a pack $50 instead of $180 or whatever you're charging I bet a lot would bite and would be happy customers if they get nice plants. jeebus this shouldn't be that complicated why do I have to explain it to you?
I don't buy Nikes at footlocker and get knockoffs bud. You're saying the go to places for many many users here are selling fake gear. These aren't fly by night seed banks these are some of the most reputable out there, if we can't trust them then who? JD short on the RIU forum? Lol.
Now I have heard several stories of DJ strong arming people with lawsuit threats about his blueberry and you're going to tell me you don't want to do anything about the people destroying your business name, and even more so your fathers and families name? If I were you and fucking had to I would buy attitude,seedsman,hempdepot out of stock my damn self. I'm sure they would work a good deal out with you and have you replace them. But the important part : get the "fake" shit off the market would be most peoples top priority.
I know of people in several other businesses that deal with counterfeit shit all the time, and a chunk of the time they end up taking a loss, it's business. You're losing money by that "fake" gear representing your brand anyways. Buy it off the banks and get it off the market OR replace it with good gear and make sure these banks know not to get it from anywhere else but directly from you.
This isn't rocket science but your gymnastics make it seem like you don't care.
Like I said, you're either an idiot or a troll. We don't offer seeds for more than 65$ for 13 of em. That puts the price exactly where you want them @ 50$ for ten of em. And they're even cheaper in bulk, so any authentic seed distributor is getting them for even less. If you spend 180.00$ to buy a pack of unverifiable beans, that ain't my problem. And then you have the audacity to demand that you somehow be compensated for your inability to responsibly purchase your beans? What is this....amateur troll hour?
There is no copyright or patent on the brand name Blueberry or Dj Short....I can't afford to buy all the fake seeds off the market so people like you stop complaining and or buying them, there are too many to buy... give me a break. Again, you sound like a child in an adult body throwing a tantrum because you can't have the diamond sprinkled ice cream cone you want.
Soon enough all of this will come to light. This conversation here is proof enough of that. People aren't going to keep spending all this $ on unverifiable products, so it's obvious the market will soon be adjusting to meet this demand.
You might not buy nike's at footlocker, but you buy seeds off the internet as if there's somehow some legal system in place to protect you if you make an inappropriate purchase. If you conducted yourself in the same manner with nike over their business practices they'd laugh in your face.
And that's pretty much what I'm doing.
It's obvious you guys want the genetics otherwise you wouldn't be throwing this hissy fit over not getting the ice cream cone you wanted. I do understand that they are some of if not the most premier genetics on the market. So why not come on over to oregon, michigan, california, colorado and get ya some of what you're looking for and stop hissy fitting because you got ripped off.
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Not even close. No deal with any major distributor has ever been made.
And there is no other seed company that has this problem because there are no other seed venders offering the quality of genetics that Dj Short's Old World Genetics offers. And no other supplier of genetics that carries the weight of the Old World Genetic brand. They are the most ripped off genetics for a reason. And no way would any company that's had their product or brand dragged through the mud, as ours has been, offer free or discounted products to the last person in line just because they were the last person in line.
Your expectations are unrealistic and only further prove you lack of business sense and the legalities and logistics involved in this industry...like I said, a child throwing a tantrum....
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Im not exactly certain of the genetic make-up. I've enquired several times and we just haven't had the time to sit down and go over the notes pertaining to the genetic make-up of these beans.
They were labeled PFK for purple, fruity and kush. I'll do some more research later to see what I can find.
eastcoastmo
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Either way man, it looks fire! Keep us posted if you ever find out
Mr.Head
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Like I said I have never grown and will never grow DJ Short gear. I was interested in that Grape Krush it was too expensive though for having next to no grows and you let me know it's fake so thanks for that. I do my research my money's never been wasted on your knock offs. That doens't mean you shouldn't treat people right who have been a victim of it. You realize how many people buy beans off of the customer service they receive? If I see I'm not going to have a good experience if I encounter an issue I won't buy from that vendor. For anything, Cannabis, Tools, Computer parts, Furniture.
Just pointing out you are a fucking horrible representative for your company. Keep name calling bro.
I didn't realize your seeds were that price however, I stand corrected, I had assumed they were in line with the ridiculous price people have been paying for your gear for years. So good for you. We'll see how the grows turn out
I'll step out here. I'll let the respected members who have a reputation here and have grown your gear continue to tell you their issues and be disregarded.
Just pointing out you are a fucking horrible representative for your company. Keep name calling bro.
I didn't realize your seeds were that price however, I stand corrected, I had assumed they were in line with the ridiculous price people have been paying for your gear for years. So good for you. We'll see how the grows turn out
I'll step out here. I'll let the respected members who have a reputation here and have grown your gear continue to tell you their issues and be disregarded.
That's all good and anyone who's gotten beans from me can attest to my 'customer service' and business ethics. The attack and name calling of my person is what's made me react in the manner I have and you know that....that's what trolls do.I do my research my money's never been wasted on your knock offs. That doens't mean you shouldn't treat people right who have been a victim of it. You realize how many people buy beans off of the customer service they receive? If I see I'm not going to have a good experience if I encounter an issue I won't buy from that vendor. For anything, Cannabis, Tools, Computer parts, Furniture.
Just pointing out you are a fucking horrible representative for your company. Keep name calling bro.
I didn't realize your seeds were that price however, I stand corrected, I had assumed they were in line with the ridiculous price people have been paying for your gear for years. So good for you. We'll see how the grows turn out
I'll step out here. I'll let the respected members who have a reputation here and have grown your gear continue to tell you their issues and be disregarded.
The thing is, no one on here has ever bought seeds from me and I'm still fielding the complaints for the one's they have bought....so why should I give a hoot about my customer service abilities if all Im doing is fielding complaints for someone else's business? You get me? I know that questioning the authenticity of any major seed vender on an internet cannabis forum isn't going to make me very popular, I'm not concerned with that. The way I see it, anyone who's interested in authentic quality genetics can and will understand or find a way to understand exactly what it is I'm saying, including the frustration behind the sentiment of what I'm saying and anyone who doesn't may need to hear the honest truth no matter how customer friendly it is or isn't.
This industry is no different than any other and the blatant fraud that exists within it is just as prevalent here as it is anywhere else. Some may say it's even more prevalent in a business community that's spent much of it's existence operating among the gray areas of the law while feverishly attempting to become law abiding. And perhaps even yet MORE prevalent among a community that's ignorant to common business practices and laws pertaining to such matters.
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Nope, just people like you and Mr. Head who demand that I somehow compensate you's for someone else ripping you off. Or people who somehow seem to think that if I was to just contact the distributors in question and ask them to cease and desist that they would have any moral or legal obligation to stop making money off of people who don't know any better.
And if all I was worried about was posting bud porn I'd ignore the trolls.
This is far from just bud porn, I'm authenticating my work and the previous work done by Dj Short. Anyone interested in authenticating the genetics would support this. And anyone concerned with the authenticity of the genetics being proven would discourage this.
I have more concern for calling out the bullshit misinformation being spread by people like you then I do for calling anyone 'business dummies.'
When people make a mistake or get taken financially they usually just need accurate information pertaining to that mistake in order to learn how not to repeat it. No one needs to be called a dummy, but perhaps people need a little reminder now and then that cannabis has very stringent international laws pertaining to it and that these laws restrict the free flow and commerce of this plant as well as the legal ramifications for such things as copy right infringement and counterfeiting.
Although this will most likely be the last time I respond to you Ray as you're sub-par even for a troll.
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