Dmt?

Derple

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I think it would be much easier than setting up a grow room. You should be able to get it running with about 2-5 hours of reading, 5 hours of work and few days of waiting but its all dependant :) It gets fun when your doing it :D



Haha interesting paralell :) Both of us should chose to learn from their mistakes anyway :)
Mmhmm :) well, I bought most of the things required for the extraction, wish me luck :)
 

redpuppet

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gl mate, DMT is some cool stuff, last time i was on the dmt, i thought i was in the middle of an old african ritual or sumthing( i was sitting there looking at the fire). i have been told by some hippies i know that DMT is a "Water element" so is apparently best smoked near flowing water ie some waterfall or something. have fun :)
 

Derple

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Well, I have to say, it blew my mind. Nothing I've ever had was like that, it was just amazing.
 

Derple

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Well, I was died, I met death (the grim reaper) and he dropped me off in the desert. There there was a table, with three hooded . . . beings? They ripped out my heart from my chest, examined it, and judged me, and I was happy, bliss fully happy, that everything was just, over, I was one with everything, I was finished, part of the cosmos.
 

Haddaway

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"mega potent hallucinater thingy" wow. Just in case you aren't aware "hallucinogen" really isn't a proper word to describe these drugs; psychedelic or psychotropic substances such as psilocin, 4-ho-MiPT, DMT, LSD, mescaline, et al. potentially lead to much more significant changes in perception\awareness\consciousness well aside from just seeing things in your field of vision that "are not real". In a proper setting and at a proper dosage a substance like psilocin should produce in the person a virtual over-load of perception, a sense of becoming more aware of yourself and your environment (indeed realizing things that you may rather not, all at once over and over again...) and\or very drastic changes in thinking and behavior as the 'situation' to you may be quite a bit different than what it is 'actually'. If you haven't been introduced to psychotropics DMT probably isn't the one to try first. I haven't done it personally but there are books dedicated to the kinds of things one experiences when administered DMT (search: Spirit Molecule). It is commonly smoked (vaporized really) but can be administered via injection (IV\IM of sterile solution) or consumed orally with an MAOI (insufflation may also work). If consumed orally without an MAOI (monoamine oxidase inhibitor) the DMT would just be destroyed before it ever reached the brain. Mammals (even humans) evidently have some endogenous DMT in their brains, which may be produced in highly localized regions of the brain at certain times. Various plants, of course, produce some degree of DMT (along with it's brother 5-MEo) along with other animals including a certain kind of toad for instance which uses psychedelic tryptamines as a venom.

The effects, without an MAOI and administered through one of the quick routes, are short lived which is why they call it the "businessman's trip". It usually lasts 10-20 minutes if I am not mistaken, but is very intense. An MAO inhibitor at an appropriate dose may extend the duration to a couple hours or more. Psilocin (from mushrooms) is chemically very similar to DMT and orally active without an MAOI. It's a good starting point even though duration is longer (can make your body feel weird) the effects are probably more manageable.
Not exactly true, the part about it not being called a "hallucinogen", there are many names for it. Entactogen, psychomimetic (psychosis causing), hallucinogen, molecule, etc, etc. This is gone over in DMT: The Spirit Molecule, written by Rick Strassman, M.D. I just started reading it, probably have a bit less than a 1/3 finished. Also, reading PIHKAL (Phenylethylamines I Have Known And Loved), both make it pretty clear that there are a plethora of ways you can categorize this class of drugs, the way they describe it depends on their perception of these substances. Someone who vilifies and vehemently takes a negative POV on the substances will be likely to call them Psychomimetics, while someone who uses them for spiritual purposes may call them "entheogen (invoking the divine nature within oneself)".
Also, basically everything contains DMT, but to what degree is the significance that matters. Most people writing books about Tryptamines for psychedelic research, are astounded at how everyting contains some extent of DMT.
 

ANC

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The true meaning of our visions sometimes takes months to correctly interpret.
The good news is that it is a subconcious process, i.e. your brain is going to dedicate a bit of processing power to review the material a few times and then some day while you are busy doing something, the interpretation will hit you out of the blue and leave you breathless and speachless by its implication.

Do not fear it, do not place it on a pedestal, it is a tool, to be used with determination and goal just as any other tool. Know what you want before you do it, set out your intention, and use that intention as a bouy if the ride gets rough.

P.S. it will test you many times to see if you are ready for the next level.
To pass the test you have to repeat the ritual.
 

woodyno8

Member
my favourite drug :)
bassically you smoke it, the trick is to get it all in in one clean draw, its hard thought because it tastes of shit, and then hold it as long as possible, and then BOOM your gone, the actually visual only lasts 5 mins but can seem like a life time, the general after glow is amazing, the ultimate content feeling. be caucioues with smokeing it with cannabis though because it can give you the ocassional parnoid hit.
but yeah changa is the the best in my opinion, not as full on, still fantastic visuals, but not the sensation of going forward faster than light :P
 

ANC

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Salvia is hardcore to the unexperienced, I'd say at least ten times as hard to get a grip on than DMT, which is much more forgiving.
 

HeatlessBBQ

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The true meaning of our visions sometimes takes months to correctly interpret.
The good news is that it is a subconcious process, i.e. your brain is going to dedicate a bit of processing power to review the material a few times and then some day while you are busy doing something, the interpretation will hit you out of the blue and leave you breathless and speachless by its implication.

Do not fear it, do not place it on a pedestal, it is a tool, to be used with determination and goal just as any other tool. Know what you want before you do it, set out your intention, and use that intention as a bouy if the ride gets rough.

P.S. it will test you many times to see if you are ready for the next level.
To pass the test you have to repeat the ritual.
ANC....

i have been looking for a piece of literature this good ever since ...

the interpretation will hit you out of the blue and leave you breathless and speachless by its implication.
props my friend...props.
+rep
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