do anyone got the time to help a new grower out?

Watru

Member
Hey guys new on the scene so first of hello everyone I have a qustion.
My plants are 25 days old and i think they are growing a bit slow.
Can anyone have a lock and see what you think.

The plants are geting 18 houres light.
Temp is alway betwen 22 - 24c. (falls to about 18 in dark time)
Humidety 60-65.(Was 70 - 75 in early growth).
Light: 400W Metal Halide. (Will change to HPS 400W for floworing)


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Thanks
Watru
 

Watru

Member
short one looks like it might have some troubles but that taller one is gonna go...........
Any ideas on what I can do for the litel one?
It shude have all the nutrients and sutch.
Thanks guys for quick reply mutch appreciated.
 

GSTrichome79

Well-Known Member
What is your light height at? I'm guessing you could move it closer, perhaps within 1 foot (30.5 cm) or so, depending on your reflector and etc. As close as you can get it without scorching the plants.

Fertilizer should be used at this point as long as your soil isn't pre-fertilized, and your temps and drainage should be good enough so your soil is drying out properly by the time you water. Speaking of temps, your night temperature is a bit low for good root development and water evaporation, increase it to more like 21c or so if you can, and your daytime temps can be a bit higher as well.

All of that aside, a good fertilizer ratio is better than just any so get some 7-7-7 or 9-3-6 if you don't have any, and start out at 1/4 strength every second or third watering, then work your way up to 1/2 maybe. Also, put a fan on those babies so they get air movement, you want the leaves to get disturbed but obviously not too much wind. The added motion stimulates growth, and strong stem development ;)
 

Watru

Member
What is your light height at? I'm guessing you could move it closer, perhaps within 1 foot (30.5 cm) or so, depending on your reflector and etc. As close as you can get it without scorching the plants.

Fertilizer should be used at this point as long as your soil isn't pre-fertilized, and your temps and drainage should be good enough so your soil is drying out properly by the time you water. Speaking of temps, your night temperature is a bit low for good root development and water evaporation, increase it to more like 21c or so if you can, and your daytime temps can be a bit higher as well.

All of that aside, a good fertilizer ratio is better than just any so get some 7-7-7 or 9-3-6 if you don't have any, and start out at 1/4 strength then work your way up to 1/2 maybe. Also, put a fan on those babies so they get air movement, you want the leaves to get disturbed but obviously not too much wind. The added motion stimulates growth, and strong stem development ;)
The light is a 400W Metal Halide its a fan in the room you just cant see it from that angel. ;)
giving them 1\4 of the nutrients in from a nutrient mix and also nutriens and micro in the soil.

Reson the light is not closer is that i am afraid to burn them.. :p
What temp do you think is the best for the ladys at day time 25 celcius ore so?
Cheers
 

GSTrichome79

Well-Known Member
Oy, if your soil has nutes in it, you need to be really careful fertilizing or you'll stunt growth and eventually cause some kind of pH problem resulting in burning and lockout. Switch to regular soil with enough perlite and etc. for good drainage and lime mixed in for pH balancing ASAP, you'll be glad you did ;)
 

Bayou bud

Active Member
theoretically a 24/0 could increase occurrence of photosynthesis, giving you more room for growth than a 18/6 photoperiod? I've heard if you can keep 'em on longer the plants will grow more. Might just be conjecture. Also, I'd try raising the smaller one so its top is to the same height as the taller one or you may have that plant stay constantly smaller, growing consistently less each day than the heartier one. Also are they the same strains? Do you know if they are clones from the same plant?
 

GSTrichome79

Well-Known Member
If it's not air cooled w/glass I don't blame you for being cautious, but you can usually make a safe guess based on how the light feels to your skin. You want it to be warm like the sun, not hot like an oven.

25-27 sounds about perfect, and should make a noticeable difference in how quickly your soil dries out.
 

Watru

Member
Oy, if your soil has nutes in it, you need to be really careful fertilizing or you'll stunt growth and eventually cause some kind of pH problem resulting in burning and lockout. Switch to regular soil with enough perlite and etc. for good drainage and lime mixed in for pH balancing ASAP, you'll be glad you did ;)
Wont it chock the plants if i change there soil now?
Also i am monetoring pH levels its keeping stedy on 6.9.
And i probeboly shude mention that not every watering they get contains extra nutrients. but only every 3 ore so.
 

Watru

Member
theoretically a 24/0 could increase occurrence of photosynthesis, giving you more room for growth than a 18/6 photoperiod? I've heard if you can keep 'em on longer the plants will grow more. Might just be conjecture. Also, I'd try raising the smaller one so its top is to the same height as the taller one or you may have that plant stay constantly smaller, growing consistently less each day than the heartier one. Also are they the same strains? Do you know if they are clones from the same plant?
I have read that 24\0 can stress the plant so i dident want to do that just yet. (Maybe next time). :)
As for the strain its White Widow from Seedsman Femenised Gold. ANd i actuly put it up on a clean plastic container right after taking the pic. ;)
 

GSTrichome79

Well-Known Member
Good point, think about supercropping the tall one so your shorty can catch up, it's not as scary as it sounds if you read up on it proper beforehand.

24/0 does work, but the dark period is when your plants will shoot up quickly after storing energy throughout the day. I'm familiar with both and prefer the 18/6 personally, but it might just depend on how one goes about things. For example, on a 24/0 you're watering far more often and may need to devise different strategies for pot size or water amounts, nutrient schedule, and what not.
 

wayno30

New Member
dunno if i would bother transplanting and i might skip the fert next watering.............some bread ties and a piece of tape bend the tall one right over
 
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