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spandy

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z0b said:
So anyone who has some questions or who you think is inexperienced should just leave this forum right? is rollitup only for pompous ass growers to shoot the shit or for experienced growers sharing their knowledge and experience to those just beginning or still working out the kinks?
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burwoodkush said:
one positive is; people will see that not everybody is willing to help.
they will also see that just because somebody has alot of green bars by the name doesnt mean jack.
cuz doesnt matter what any person might know if they cannot help you.

just like anything else people.... dont like it, turn the channel/station, dont be jerkoffs and talk down on others for your own BS.
too bad mommy and daddy didnt want to help you,
karma karma karma..... :finger:
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I dont want anyone to leave, you miss the point. We aren't talking about the entire noob section or every question asked, so dont assume that anyone wants anything you just spouted off, no one said any of those things. It's the constant "how much will I yield", one leaf was burned, dude wants to throw it away, threads asking for help on how to dodge their parents, etc. Some weeks its mild, others there is so much shit to dig through that Im sure many dudes dont get answer because some jack wants to ask about pouring energy drinks on their plants.

But the worst isnt even that. ITs the bad information that noobs spread to other noobs. Thats what really needs attention around here, misinformation and bad advice are a constant.

And you are the one who stopped on this channel. It's not like we are gonna start talking about ponies on a noob bitchfest thread.

Or are we?
 
GrowinDad

GrowinDad

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I think many of us start searching out info once we realize we don't shit. That was my case. But, from day one of my first grow I viewed it as an experiment. Once I realized I needed to know more I did research. I thin the valid complaint is that many people think they not know shit, realize it midway through the grow, and think they can turn that spindly plant into a hign yielder with some magic piece of advice. But what do we expect from the our pop a pill to solve our woes culture?
 
Guitar Man

Guitar Man

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z0b said:
So anyone who has some questions or who you think is inexperienced should just leave this forum right? is rollitup only for pompous ass growers to shoot the shit or for experienced growers sharing their knowledge and experience to those just beginning or still working out the kinks?
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Sheeze Louise!!! No one here has said what you're saying. Asking a question or trying to solve a problem with a grow is not the issue here.

People on this Forum are just tired of chasing around children who like sticking their fingers in a light socket!

Doing research before you grow is common sense, not rocket science. The guy who had sickly, small plants that were 3 ½ months old should have been told to start over. Shit can the lousy plants, and get back to ground zero.
 
dbdweller

dbdweller

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I understand ur frustration...but thats why this site is here if you think about it. So many different ways to grow and i do not think anyone has all the answers. The Internet is good for research for sure But experience to me tops everything. books smarts everything. And here is the only way you are going to hear from someone who might have went through it and saved your girls.
I have been growing for 30+ years and i go on these forum (alot) and help out and get help. I like answering a question if i know what worked for ME and listening when it worked for someone else
This is a positive thing... you could really help out others if your into that.
 
Bakatare666

Bakatare666

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sold777 said:
I did loads of research and i still ask questions, I ask because I like people to have the same idea I have so I havent mis diagnosed a problem. I understand what you mean when people just go buy the stuff and have no idea about what they are doing in the first place but most the time if people research it can be purely out of nerves. Im relying on my plants so I like to make sure they are looking good. Then hopefully next time I start over, i'll be more confident.
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I think what Guitar is ranting about more or less, is the ones that have shriveled up little stalks because their 'friend' told them to piss on it to fertilize, or pour beet juice on it, and they listened, instead of coming to a site like this FIRST before whipping out their whang and filling the pot.
 
cheechako

cheechako

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There are problems not related to growing weed. I see similar issues on so many forums.

Here's a simple test for a newbie or anyone really. Go to the Newbie Central section. 1) Figure out how to find some grow videos as something to perhaps start with. 2) Figure out what the terms CFL, HID, and SCROG mean.

If you said, "Click the Post New Thread button and title it 'New here. Got a question,' then I'll either ignore you or pick on you depending on my mood. Yes, this should be a helpful place with lots of good information. You know what? Some members already took the time to help before you even got here. It is free to take advantage of that. It is great to take a look around and get a feel for the place.

I understand how it is to not even know the question to ask. I know some people have difficulties learning certain things. That's sort of help is hopefully what RIU (and many other forums) is all about. But if you just jump in and don't seem to take any time at all to see what is right there in stickies, current threads, and so on - well, that doesn't seem fair to the people that have already created threads, information, stickies, videos, vocabulary lists, and so on.

You don't earn rep and likes by reading, but you'll learn. And, you'll probably be better able to contribute when you do that, which can get you rep and likes then. That doesn't mean newbies shouldn't join in or ask questions. It just means it would be nice if they put in some effort too.
 
z0b

z0b

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Guitar Man said:
Sheeze Louise!!! No one here has said what you're saying. Asking a question or trying to solve a problem with a grow is not the issue here.

People on this Forum are just tired of chasing around children who like sticking their fingers in a light socket!

Doing research before you grow is common sense, not rocket science. The guy who had sickly, small plants that were 3 ½ months old should have been told to start over. Shit can the lousy plants, and get back to ground zero.
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If you go through half those posts, a bunch of you experienced guys answer like your overly annoyed to even be looking at the post. As for doing research, before i began one of my friends and i researched for months. Wed talk constantly back and forth exchanging what we learned. did some trial and error runs. but the thing is, research doesnt help experience. And i still have 1000000s of questions. And just bc it looks like something you researched doesnt mean it is. What about a second opinion? why not make a diagnosis yourself(from all your research) and then get a second,third,fourth opinion. Thats what this site is for. But instead of giving new growers the chance you tell them to use the search button.

let me tell yoou something. the search button does NOT work. noone wants to go through 2348239423409 postts. and every problem doesnt have to be the same even with similiar symptoms.

what if the person wanted to post about N def. but had already posted a previous deficiency and got shit for it. so he started to do some research. ended up upping the dose of nutes but killed all his girls bc it was actually a lockout.

PS. Apologies for the pompous ass grower comment! I was fighting with the gf already in a bad mood.
 
D3monic

D3monic

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another thing you have to take into consideration is that a good portion of people wind up at this site thanks to google. Why are they googling? because they are trying to learn or solve a problem that may have arisen. Hell I do nothing but research .... obsessively and yet I will still find myself on a forum asking questions... why? because there's never one good answer and often opinions will vary.
 
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z0b

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D3monic said:
another thing you have to take into consideration is that a good portion of people wind up at this site thanks to google. Why are they googling? because they are trying to learn or solve a problem that may have arisen. Hell I do nothing but research .... obsessively and yet I will still find myself on a forum asking questions... why? because there's never one good answer and often opinions will vary.
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Good sir you simplified every thought flowing through my brain. perftect
 
Guitar Man

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dbdweller said:
I understand ur frustration...but thats why this site is here if you think about it. So many different ways to grow and i do not think anyone has all the answers. The Internet is good for research for sure But experience to me tops everything. books smarts everything. And here is the only way you are going to hear from someone who might have went through it and saved your girls.
I have been growing for 30+ years and i go on these forum (alot) and help out and get help. I like answering a question if i know what worked for ME and listening when it worked for someone else
This is a positive thing... you could really help out others if your into that.
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First, nice plant in your Avatar!!!!!!

I agree, nothing trumps experience; nothing. It's like a School Teacher fresh out of College; they are NOT a Teacher until they've spent some serious time teaching. But, the Teacher went to College to obtain an education on information needed to expound on a particular subject. This same principle applies to growing MJ; you are NOT a grower until you are smoking bud from YOUR garden (Knowledge+Experience=Results).

I think where we go wrong in giving others advice is we give them bad information, like trying to save those old, but small plants. We should be telling new growers to spend some time in "College" to gain understanding, FIRST! I didn't use Forums to do this, and I joined RIU after I had been growing my plants for a while.

Personally, I feel that using a simple guide/website can eliminate much of the misinformation that is found on Forums. Growing MJ is fairly simple and repetitious, and I have a host of sites (like the 1 below) in my Favorites that I used to get my feet wet. And, I don't want to hear the bullshit that I support or endorse this site because I've got some kind of stake in this company. I can post a whole trail of these that come from many different sources, if someone would like to use them.

http://www.weedsthatplease.com/growindoors.htm
 
slim83

slim83

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Guitar Man said:
Is it just me, or does it seem like people don't know what the fuck they are doing when trying to grow quality MJ. I've seen some pictures in the last few days, where the plants look like total shit and they are asking for advice on what to do after the plants look like they are ready for the cemetery.

Before I started my first grow, I spent weeks online researching the correct way to grow MMJ. And, it paid off. I did have problems, but my plants matured nicely and the finished bud was killer.

IMHO, there is no excuse in this day and age. Anyone can get online and find a truck-load of information about becoming a good and experienced grower. And, if a person will listen and learn, the very first plant they grow can yield a nice harvest.

When a plant is less than 1 foot tall, and it’s been in the ground for over 3 months, this is my piece of advice: Do some dam research, BEFORE, you decide to grow! You’ll save yourself time, energy, money, and you’ll be stoned in 3-4 months, instead of crying over a plant that won’t give you shit in the end!

Here is a website I used for my first grow. It's simple, plain, and can walk just about anyone through a grow cycle.

http://www.weedsthatplease.com/growindoors.htm


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I totally agree you see people with a 2 foot plant with 2 nodes sets under a 60w incandescent in pure mulch with miracle gro nutes and asking why do my plants look like shit when they could have read for 20 min and known exactly what they were doing wrong
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gagekko

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Guitar Man said:
Is it just me, or does it seem like people don't know what the fuck they are doing when trying to grow quality MJ. I've seen some pictures in the last few days, where the plants look like total shit and they are asking for advice on what to do after the plants look like they are ready for the cemetery.

Before I started my first grow, I spent weeks online researching the correct way to grow MMJ. And, it paid off. I did have problems, but my plants matured nicely and the finished bud was killer.

IMHO, there is no excuse in this day and age. Anyone can get online and find a truck-load of information about becoming a good and experienced grower. And, if a person will listen and learn, the very first plant they grow can yield a nice harvest.

When a plant is less than 1 foot tall, and it’s been in the ground for over 3 months, this is my piece of advice: Do some dam research, BEFORE, you decide to grow! You’ll save yourself time, energy, money, and you’ll be stoned in 3-4 months, instead of crying over a plant that won’t give you shit in the end!

Here is a website I used for my first grow. It's simple, plain, and can walk just about anyone through a grow cycle.

http://www.weedsthatplease.com/growindoors.htm


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Haha... Complaining about people seeking help in the "Marijuana Plant Problems" section... Wow :roll:
 
slim83

slim83

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gagekko said:
Haha... Complaining about people seeking help in the "Marijuana Plant Problems" section... Wow :roll:
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I think he is complaining about the people that are not doing any research first just getting some dirt from the backyard throwing it in a soda bottle with the top cut putting plants under halogens and inconsistents and then getting on here and saying why do my plants look like shit it's 3 months old and 2 inches tall what am I doing wrong
 
Bakatare666

Bakatare666

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Rancho Cucamonga said:
I have no issues with folks asking for help, what I hate most on here are two things. I have been on this site under a different name for about 5 years and it's the people who post "it is done yet?" in the harvesting section and people who double and triple post threads of the same question in different sections. Those folks just annoy the hell out of me, but it's their right to post the question. Just because I think it's dumb doesn't mean it is for them. But those double and triple folks can go to hell.
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What bugs me is the newbs that start a thread, 5 minutes later, comment 'why is nobody answering?', wait 5 minutes, post again 'fuck this site if nobody wants to answer.'
One guy just last week had 4 posts in 23 minutes, complaining because nobody had given an answer yet.
Those people need to go jerk off or something between posts, instead of thinking everybody else here is sitting waiting for a question.
 
cobra28widow

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I use miracle grow moisture control and its works good. and to the op why are you posting links to another weed growing website?
 
Guitar Man

Guitar Man

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cobra28widow said:
I use miracle grow moisture control and its works good. and to the op why are you posting links to another weed growing website?
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What in the hell are you talking about? The website link I gave is NOT A FORUM!!!! You have to read and follow the growing steps in order for this sight to be of any value to the user. Did you even click on it?
 
Guitar Man

Guitar Man

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gagekko said:
Haha... Complaining about people seeking help in the "Marijuana Plant Problems" section... Wow :roll:
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There's a difference between asking for help and asking someone how to wipe your ass. Seriously, I don't think people joined this Forum to change diapers. Before you join RIU, do some damn research so you won't wonder why your plant in a dixie cup won't flower.
 
iiKode

iiKode

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I agree, i have been on this site daily learning new little tips, i hate when i see people wondering why theirs leaves are yellowing at the bottom of their plant, its obvious n def pretty amateur questions. All you need to do is read this sub forum and store the basic information you see, so you can compare it to your current situation.
 
iiKode

iiKode

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Bakatare666 said:
What bugs me is the newbs that start a thread, 5 minutes later, comment 'why is nobody answering?', wait 5 minutes, post again 'fuck this site if nobody wants to answer.'
One guy just last week had 4 posts in 23 minutes, complaining because nobody had given an answer yet.
Those people need to go jerk off or something between posts, instead of thinking everybody else here is sitting waiting for a question.
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I usually wait overnight for answers, as that is when the Americans are usually on here, and we all know the Americans outnumber us Brits.
 
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