Does a reliable feminized line even exist?

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Jimbo the Gael

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HydroKid239 said:
Link? I did a search and no luck.
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I think it got deleted. Guy had an anxiety disorder, which caused him to fixate on an impossible premise and a bunch of guys couldn't control themselves, turned into a troll mob, then went off topic about fried chicken. I'll try to find it. If I do I'll edit this.

Edit: Here you go. Not deleted. https://www.rollitup.org/t/i-still-feels-anxious-and-unrealistoc-after-a-bad-edible-trip.1039892/
Please just read it and don't comment. This is one that deserves to stay buried.
 
Lordhooha

Lordhooha

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You want to run 82-84f with LED's bud, there's no uv spectrum present so you make up the difference by running higher temps
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Thank you for the tip, like i said i have intentions on upgrading my light, would rather not add any heater or something like that. What would you recommend?
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Honestly to pull the best from leds you need that heat simply put. Add a heater is the best and cheapest option.
 
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Veeplants

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dbz said:
This

You are a good bit too cool under Leds. You may need to use a small space heater to warm the room the tent is in, just insulate it a bit better so it doesnt take much. (I personally dont like heaters in the tent).
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so you’re saying at 75 im approximately 7 degrees too low? Like i said
Lordhooha said:
Thank you for the tip, like i said i have intentions on upgrading my light, would rather not add any heater or something like that. What would you recommend?
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Honestly to pull the best from leds you need that heat simply put. Add a heater is the best and cheapest option.
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Add a heater during dark and light cycle? Or should it be set to run during light cycle? Thank you for the help, i truly appreciate it
 
xtsho

xtsho

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I've ran fem seeds off and on from years from dozens of different breeders. Some that are supposedly great and others that people talk bad about. I haven't had a hermie from any of them

I think it's the grower and something they're doing.

One thing I was thinking about was the increased usage of LED's and how some timers allow enough current through to slightly power the lights even during off cycles. There was a recent thread about that. And the increased use of excessive amounts of fertilizer. Both issues can stress the plants. I'm not going to just immediately blame the seeds. I think there are other factors involved causing the apparent increase in hermaphroditic plants. Probably something to do with issues caused by the grower and not the genetics.
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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Richard Drysift said:
I’ve been through the ringer myself with hermed out plants by HSC and other breeders too. One girly boy can easily fuck up my perpetual but I will still pop a femmed seed here or there if I need to.
I found it much easier to just go with reg seeds for the most part and then chances of herms are close to nil. I have had a few strains/plants that the mothers were from fem seed and then crossed with a reg male to find they can still herm out when stressed in late flower. The “herm” gene or whatever it is is definitely passed on to the next generation. My goal was to eliminate the threat of beans in my weed so reg seeds are all I try to fuck with. I have recently popped some fems as a friend has asked me to do a limited run of an old school indica; says all my crazy sativa strains make him too jumpy. Dude needs something to relax....
Anyway it’s not super hard to sex out regular plants; only sets you back a few weeks and then you can monster crop the girls for maximum yield potential. Plus zero chance of herms. Then just clone a select mama or two to keep it going.
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Usually I agree with you but, "Plus zero chance of herms"
you lost me at that point

Zero chance of Herm?
 
Lordhooha

Lordhooha

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Veeplants said:
so you’re saying at 75 im approximately 7 degrees too low? Like i said

Honestly to pull the best from leds you need that heat simply put. Add a heater is the best and cheapest option.
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Add a heater during dark and light cycle? Or should it be set to run during light cycle? Thank you for the help, i truly appreciate it
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I would dial it in to have more heat during flower and dark time. My rooms run 83 during the day and 73 at night.
 
Lordhooha

Lordhooha

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xtsho said:
I've ran fem seeds off and on from years from dozens of different breeders. Some that are supposedly great and others that people talk bad about. I haven't had a hermie from any of them

I think it's the grower and something they're doing.

One thing I was thinking about was the increased usage of LED's and how some timers allow enough current through to slightly power the lights even during off cycles. There was a recent thread about that. And the increased use of excessive amounts of fertilizer. Both issues can stress the plants. I'm not going to just immediately blame the seeds. I think there are other factors involved causing the apparent increase in hermaphroditic plants. Probably something to do with issues caused by the grower and not the genetics.
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I know I use trolmaster for all my timers and controls. They shut down all of my lights with zero afterglow or what not
 
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Veeplants

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xtsho said:
I've ran fem seeds off and on from years from dozens of different breeders. Some that are supposedly great and others that people talk bad about. I haven't had a hermie from any of them

I think it's the grower and something they're doing.

One thing I was thinking about was the increased usage of LED's and how some timers allow enough current through to slightly power the lights even during off cycles. There was a recent thread about that. And the increased use of excessive amounts of fertilizer. Both issues can stress the plants. I'm not going to just immediately blame the seeds. I think there are other factors involved causing the apparent increase in hermaphroditic plants. Probably something to do with issues caused by the grower and not the genetics.
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I definitely have not overfed, i learned my lesson with that long ago, the lights do not have any current slightly powering the lights in the dark cycle, they go completely off. Like i said, im at 75 during the “day” 65 at “night”, my humidity is sitting right around 40%. Im going to try to rule out the possibility of a light leak tomorrow. & take what the other guy said and probably add a space heater if my temps actually are lower than what they should be.
 
MoroccanRoll

MoroccanRoll

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I'm not a geneticist so consider this opinion.

Some plants are intersex because it's in their genetics. That can be bred out by not including plants with those genetics in your breeding stock. Some herm simply because that's what plants do to insure continuation of the species. I don't think you can breed that out any more than you can breed the desire to fuck out of a primate.
 
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Bookush34

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I’ve grown probably 10-12 different strains of fem seeds. Only 2-3 plants of each.
ive had two Plants hermi. But it’s notlike the grow was perfect
 
macsnax

macsnax

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Veeplants said:
You want to run 82-84f with LED's bud, there's no uv spectrum present so you make up the difference by running higher temps
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Thank you for the tip, like i said i have intentions on upgrading my light, would rather not add any heater or something like that. What would you recommend?
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There's a number of ways, but you need to figure out what works for your situation. Like right now with it being winter. I'm running the heater in my house only at night. Gets shut off when I get up in the morning and that's when the lights come on. The heat being filtered and exhausted into the vents of my house warms it enough in the day. Just switched this up recently but it's allowing me to get away without running a/c at least until it warms up outside. First run in this place, so I'm figuring things out as I go lol.

Maybe look at changing up your intake. Bring less cool air in, make sure you're still getting co2 exchange though.
 
evergreengardener

evergreengardener

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macsnax said:
There's a lot more to it than saying fems have a tendency to herm. Why so many people have it stuck in their head that these plants are forced to herm out to produce pollen, idk. It's usually done through silver particles that manipulate the hormones in the female, blocking ethylene production. This isn't a generic trait that's carried into the offspring. Always check all parameters in your grow before blaming it on something else. Any seed line can herm under the right conditions, some much easier than others.
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AMEN!!
 
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oswizzle

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Veeplants said:
I have been growing out fems for quite some time now, i appreciate the fact that “feminized seeds” produce female flowers, but the huge downside to this is the amount of hermaphrodites i get from the genetics i am using, ive been growing humboldt seed co’s fem line for roughly 2-3 different cycles, i had 2/4 herm first cycle and wrote it off, second cycle, also had a herm pineapple upside down cake, which ended up pollinating the rest of my crop from useful seeds, out of 6 blueberries n choc i had 1 herm but my herm rate with humboldt seed co is much higher i would say probably a 2-1 ratio which is what im currently experiencing. Unless the other two girls in that tent arent girls at all.

Ive already contacted HSC and they have intentions on making it right, the customer service rep remembered me from the time before when i had issues with notorious thc herms and poor germination rates, and was rather helpful once again.

I know im gonna get the throw them out yadda yadda shit im just letting these “girls” finish up & start fresh with a new plan and was wondering if anyone can lend any help.

I have intentions on purchasing regs and just growing them out, but i wanted to give feminized seeds one last chance because maybe it truly is genetics, my environment is controlled, i dont overwater/underwater my plants, My PH is inline at 6.5 almost always and my soil is dialed in, i dont know where im going wrong if this is in fact an issue on my end thats causing this.

Thanks All
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Ive grown a handful of HSC fem lines and imho Herm city in a few of them... not acceptable and no way they test them out b4 hand... never grew the regulars or auto lines... but their fem lines are a total crap shoot... like 3/7 .. Squirt, Mango Sherbet, Vanilla Frosting had lots of nanners...
 
2cent

2cent

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Firstly humboldt co respect for using them. They are top wuality breeders man. They have 1 strain pi apple that states it had some hermies.

But ive grown strains and am growing from them no problems frwakin awsome.

Im also 16years growing fems and i grow 3 strains every 2month. Never had a herm from many companies.

Well lie dinafem mobydick but i had 34degree temp so wss self inflicted.

Id make sure ur setups spot on sounds like stress
Eg my friend hermies 4wk in cause of an extensionlead light flashing green in his tent


Humboldt is 2 of the most stable companies i know of after years searching and research i come to them and yeilds like nothing els n smells unreal.
They use bx4 and f9 crosses 10k plant runs selecting 1% from that.

Try magic mellons and be ready for the stretch it fills a scrog in days
 
macsnax

macsnax

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oswizzle said:
Ive grown a handful of HSC fem lines and imho Herm city in a few of them... not acceptable and no way they test them out b4 hand... never grew the regulars or auto lines... but their fem lines are a total crap shoot... like 3/7 .. Squirt, Mango Sherbet, Vanilla Frosting had lots of nanners...
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Yikes
 
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