does anyone else think guns should be banned?
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steve1978
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i agree fdd. i actually love what america stands for. you export democracy. even to people who dont want it! lol. no really i thought if you all voted themn surely the government is representing the people? anyone who thinks their opressed should take a look around. just my opinion.
Anjinsan
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You elected the people with actual power? The people that make up the Federal Reserve?
And no it isn't We The People. By all accounts people were calling in to local and federal government agencies at a ratio of 9 to 1 against the first bailout before it was voted on. 9 to 1 against. All branches were claiming record volume of We The People interest on the subject.
Yet congress voted for it...and didn't even read what they voted yes for.
At a world record pricetag at that. Does that sound like true representation of We The People to you?
Louis541
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Actually yeah. Last one was about 200 years ago. Then there was the Civil war.(Which we, the people, lost.) I'd say we're about do for another one.
Anjinsan
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Do you have 12 million illegal immigrants in your country?
Anjinsan
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I'd like to see the numbers.
Mexicans pour across our borders every single day. Not only do they take up valuable resources, reduce wages for Americans, suck the healthcare system dry...but the monies they do make are statistically primarily sent back to their families in Mexico.
Their impact on our healthcare and overall economy is understated to say the very least.
Anjinsan
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Well I wouldn't want Ben S. Bernanke dead because that'd be a crime that'd land me in a camp like Gitmo.
blame the government that APPROVES their paperwork.
shoot the welfare system first?
or are we shooting the illegals?
so confusing.
and i'm serious. you all own guns just for this reason. got a plan?
Anjinsan
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blame the government that APPROVES their paperwork.
shoot the welfare system first?
or are we shooting the illegals?
so confusing.
and i'm serious. you all own guns just for this reason. got a plan?
I don't own a gun. I just am afraid of my government. I cannot decide if it's stupidity or a well crafted plan to enslave the populace.
steve1978
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since 2004 1.42 million immigrant have entered the u.k. we have a population of 60 million. i would say its similar. and in a way think of all the things you get cheap in america due to people working for slave wages in the countrys these immagrants come from. i would also bet you to are a immigrant my friend. if you look back far enough.
can we not turn this thread into a immegrant bashing thread. i know people have storng opinions on this and i also know how this debate ends. (all the rascists come out)
can we not turn this thread into a immegrant bashing thread. i know people have storng opinions on this and i also know how this debate ends. (all the rascists come out)
Anjinsan
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You are mentioning ALL immigrants to your nation as being equal to ILLEGAL immigrants in ours.
http://ohmygov.com/blogs/general_news/archive/2008/04/10/number-of-illigral-immigrants-in-u-s-may-be-closer-to-20-million.aspx
Our ILLEGAL immigration counters are based on an estimated twenty million ILLEGAL aliens having been present in our nation as of January 1, 2004.
http://www.theamericanresistance.com/ref/illegal_alien_numbers.html
We have a population of 300 million which is 5 times larger than yours. If you multiplied ALL of your immigrants x 5 = 7 million comparitive. I am saying 12 million ILLEGALS minimum up to a max of 20 million ILLEGALS as our numbers.
Not at all comparable.
Anjinsan
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I'll make it easy.so we shoot the immigrants?
just the illegal ones though.
but what if they have fake ID?
soooooooo confused.
IPA (immigrant protection agency) Same exact business model as EPA.
Go around the country looking for people that violate the law by hiring illegals.
Fine the beejeebus out of them. Repeat as frequently as possible.
100% proven business model.
We'd not need a fence, border patrol agents, any of that crap.
GanjaAL
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[SIZE=+2]Best gun control activist the world has ever known.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+2]A quote from Adolf Hitler, 1935[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future."[/SIZE]
Right before he tried to exterminate the Jewish People.
[SIZE=+2]A quote from Adolf Hitler, 1935[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future."[/SIZE]
Right before he tried to exterminate the Jewish People.
Green Cross
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Exactly!
GanjaAL
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[SIZE=+1]CONSIDER THIS...[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]In 1929 the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915-1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally ill, and others, who were unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million "educated" people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]That places total victims who lost their lives because of gun control at approximately 56 million in the last century. Since we should learn from the mistakes of history, the next time someone talks in favor of gun control, find out which group of citizens they wish to have exterminated.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed, a program costing the government more than $500 million dollars. The results Australia-wide; Homicides are up 3.2%, Assaults are up 8 %, and Armed robberies are up 44%.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]In Australias state of Victoria, homicides with firearms are up 300%! Over the previous 25 years, figures show a steady decrease in armed robberies and Australian politicians are on the spot and at a loss to explain how no improvement in "safety" has been observed after such monumental effort and expense was successfully expended in "ridding society of guns."[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+2]It's time to state it plainly; Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives, protect children and property and, yes, gun-control laws only affect the law-abiding citizens.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+2](Thanks Paul Harvey!)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]In 1929 the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915-1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally ill, and others, who were unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million "educated" people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]That places total victims who lost their lives because of gun control at approximately 56 million in the last century. Since we should learn from the mistakes of history, the next time someone talks in favor of gun control, find out which group of citizens they wish to have exterminated.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed, a program costing the government more than $500 million dollars. The results Australia-wide; Homicides are up 3.2%, Assaults are up 8 %, and Armed robberies are up 44%.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]In Australias state of Victoria, homicides with firearms are up 300%! Over the previous 25 years, figures show a steady decrease in armed robberies and Australian politicians are on the spot and at a loss to explain how no improvement in "safety" has been observed after such monumental effort and expense was successfully expended in "ridding society of guns."[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+2]It's time to state it plainly; Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives, protect children and property and, yes, gun-control laws only affect the law-abiding citizens.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+2](Thanks Paul Harvey!)[/SIZE]
GanjaAL
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[SIZE=+2]Quotes from founding fathers of this once great nation.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]"Guard with jeolous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined." -Patrick Henry[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]"I ask sir, who is the militia? It is the whole people...To disarm the people, that is the best and most effective way to enslave them..." - George Mason[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]"Americans [have] the right and advantage of being armed -- unlike citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust people with arms." -James Madison[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]"...Arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance of power is the scale of peace." -Thomas Paine[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword because the whole body of people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States..." -Noah Webster[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]"Guard with jeolous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined." -Patrick Henry[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]"I ask sir, who is the militia? It is the whole people...To disarm the people, that is the best and most effective way to enslave them..." - George Mason[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]"Americans [have] the right and advantage of being armed -- unlike citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust people with arms." -James Madison[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]"...Arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance of power is the scale of peace." -Thomas Paine[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword because the whole body of people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States..." -Noah Webster[/SIZE]
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