Does anyone know how to stop a pitbull puppy from biting?

gaztron3030

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Dominance theory was debunked years ago. Rudolph Schenkel was the original researcher who developed the model based on a pack of wolves. He studies wolves in zoos from 1930 to 1940. He noticed (and was correct) that when you bring a bunch of unrelated wolves and food is scared, they will fight, sometimes to do death. The Alpha roll was based on the dominate wolf killing the weaker one when it would bite the weak wolf in the neck and pin it to the ground. The problem was when he took this research and applied it to wolves in the wild and even domesticated dogs.

In the wild, wolves are in "packs" but nothing like in a zoo. These are family packs, where the mother and farther wolves come together, mate, and together take care of their pups and guide them through life's dangers. During a hunt, wolves often split and rejoin several times, so the "alpha" can change at any moment. They work through trust and cooperation. Fights are far less common and when they do happen, its short little squabbles between siblings. Nothing like the death matches found in zoos.

Modern training, be it with birds, tigers, bears, killer wears, and even domesticated dogs & cats uses Operant Conditioning, where by each choice the animal makes is assigned a probability. Through positive reinforcement you increase the probabilities of behaviors you like and decrease behaviors you dislike. You don't need to yell, hit, or do anything mean as these would be counter productive. They ruin the trust and bond you have with your dog. It's a myth that dogs only want to please you. In reality, dogs live in the moment and only do what is rewarding to them. By you using food and toys as rewards, they will be far more likely to *want* to listen to you.

Want a good free education on dog training? Follow Dr. Dunbar and watch all his videos on youtube and check out his website, Dog Star daily.

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If you want to teach advanced tricks, look into Marker Training or Clicker Training. I made the switch a few months ago when I was teaching my dog tricks like "close the door." Initially I did it by saying marker words like "Yes" and "Good Girl" but by switching to a clicker she learned the trick in half the time. So now, click = treat every time, no exceptions. Where as Good Girl and Yes mean she gets a treat sometimes, but not every time. I usually only need the clicker for the first couple of minutes while I'm teaching her a new command. After she knows the command I go back to voice commands and phase out the clicker completely. You don't have to use a clicker, you can use a pen, flashlight, snap your fingers, etc.

The best trainer on Clicking Training I've come across is hands down got to be KikoPup. She has hundreds of free videos on Youtube.

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Wolves and domestic dog breeds are very different and 10 years study is nothing really. Teaching a dog to do tricks for rewards is one thing but teaching it to ignore a natural behavior such as biting is very different.
Packs of a full mother and father family are rare and it is usually packs of young males or matriarchs of females and the young. Males tend to kill and eat their young.
 

charface

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Teach it the word NO! and teach it the word bite then combine them. Not being funny either it really is that simple.
Give him a treat and when he takes it tell him bite, Hold it for him so it is hard for him to get without mouthing your hand and when he goes for it tell him no bite. When he gets it right give him the food. Bite is easier to learn so maybe work on that for a day or two first. Then when he tries to bite you in play next time. tell him no bite! if he complies reward him. Now it knows the word No you can teach it no lick, no bark, no shit!
 

Trolling

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Actually, the dog was amazing. i saw him call off a cat one night when we were just fucking around in the alley behind the PD. We were alerted to it's presence by the dog and the officer gave him the attack command. The dog chased it and just as he was about to catch it, the officer called him off mid lunged. The dog (Jacko) turned his head and barrel-rolled over the cat because he had already launched himself.

i was absolutely in awe. When the dog came back to us i asked the officer how he trained him so well. That's when i found out about their special relationship lol.

Sidenote: He called the dog off not because of liability or care for the cat. He had no clue where that cat had been or what diseases it might carry.
Omg, you were serious...WTF.
 

dirtsurfr

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Back in 1972 I saw the ships Boatswain doing it to our mascot on board my ship the USS Navasota AO 106 LOL.
 

splitphilly

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2 months old....biting is super normal. Pups are a a lot like kids when it comes to behavioral issues. Ignore it. Puppies play with their mouths but people aren't dogs. So its best to break the contact and then ignore them. Every dog is different but that's a great way to handle it. Also find a way to get the pup around other dogs. Pits will be great around people as they grow up. As long as theyre nit abused. Dogs will probably be their toughest problem.
 

cmbajr

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If necessary, refer to the ' which handgun should I buy' thread
If he bites my daughter and she is seriously hurt I'd hate it but I'd take him out back and put the s&w 500 mag to his head and he won't bite ever again.
 

VTMi'kmaq

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Asked for advice had the thread drove into a k9 cop that jerks off his dog? rofl? wtf? Have fun with your dog bro, i doubt if you raise him right you'll have issue's just keep him clear of the perv's that shared on this thread! I'll bet more than one of em have slurped the ole perch! 552074_395533117184874_742595154_n.jpg
 

BurlingtonBam

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I know and I need to be more patient but when I try to correct him and he just ignores me I get frustrated cuz I have no choice but to put him in his crate but I hate leaving him in the crate for so long. I want him out more but he won't listen.

Not trying to be a dick, but what do you expect from a 2 month old puppy? He doesn't listen to you because he doesn't know what the hell you are saying. lol. I have a pit/dalmation mix and she was the same way when she was young. Running in the morning? If you don't want that when you let her out of the cage then expect to throw on some jogging pants and take her with you. As far as chewing things, it's going to happen. lol. Funny our dog chewed tons of my girlfriends stuff, but never mine. Even chewed one of her cell phones. She was none too please with that.

Your best bet with pipes and bongs is be very careful with them for awhile. I think our dog broke 5 or 6 glass pieces before she was 1 year old. They're just clumsy and their tail has a complete mind of it's own. We didn't crop the tail, almost wish we did. So my suggestion with that is make sure the pipes are on the table good. None of this on the edge shit, because it WILL go flying. lol. Also, just a little note, if the tail isn't cut, watch your weed. I can't tell you how many times I broke some up to roll a blunt and she ran buy and hit it with her tail and it all disappeared. lol. They get better though.

For chewing definitely get chew toys and bones. Pits LOVE bones. I'd suggest getting a ton when they're on sale. Then each time you see him chewing on something tell him NO, very sternly (realize that he won't know what NO means for a little bit), maybe a light smack on the butt more for effect(you can't hurt a pit bull. lol.). I always found that those cardboard tubes that come in the middle of wrapping paper for chistmas were great. They give you 3 ft of reach, they don't hurt them, just scare the piss out of them. lol. It gets their attention. Then a nice firm No, and then give him his bone and tell him chew on that. You have to remember when they're that young they are teething, and don't know what is ok, and not ok to chew on. Your best bet is keeping anything you really like out of the dogs range, and get her a lot of bones and TEACH her to chew on those. Remember it's a dog that knows nothing. You have to teach it everything. So many owners don't teach their dog shit, and then get mad at the dog because they're stupid when many times is the owners who are stupid and created the problem. Just be firm, and be consistent. Just because they keep chewing on something doesn't mean it's ok because you're tired of telling them. Give them a lite spanking (not too much at 2 months), but just enough to let it know it's not alright. Not for pain or anything, but it's more to get their attention because they can be very stubborn dogs.

IF you want any other advice PM me. I had a pure pit when I lived in the south with championship bloodline, and I have a mixed one now. they're great dogs, but it's 100% your responsibility to train them. Don't have one of those piece of shit pits that give the rest a bad name. 9 times out of 10 that stuff is because the owner is a fuck up. Don't be that guy. Pits aren't like poodles, so take that into account when you raise them. IT's very important for a pit to be well behaved. Work with him a lot to teach tricks. Sure some people don't like tricks, but it's more about getting your dog to listen to your command ALL THE TIME. Mine knows about a dozen tricks, everything from sit, play dead, and even rings a bell when she wants to go outside to use the bathroom. Extremely smart dogs, only limited by their owners imagination. Remember anything a dog can physically do, it can be taught to do.

When he's a little older try smoking with him. Mine didn't like it at first, now (she's about 3 1/2) if she sees up packing a bowl or rolling one she sits next to us and stares and essentially gets in the circle. lol. It's actually pretty funny. Pits are awesome, just make sure you teach them.
 

BurlingtonBam

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Got a buddy who has had pits for yrs. What he does when they're puppies, if they bite he grabs by lower jaw with thumb inside mouth pressing on tongue. He said after 3 or 4 times they get the message cause they hate it. lol
That is actually very true. lol. They absolutely do hate that. Their mouth will go fully open to try to get away. It's actually really funny that pits have such biting power, yet have little or no power if you grab the lower jaw. lol.
 

dvs1038

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One thing that worked for me in the past when I had my Rottie was to actually kinda control his mood. When I would come home and he would be all hyper and excited I would play with him and get him all riled up by petting him really rough and messing with him. Then after a few minutes of playing with him like that and running around in the yard with him I would then sit down on the grass and completely change my attitude and way of petting him. Instead of playing and petting him really rough I would speak to him in a calm low voice and pet him very gently and in more of a soothing fashion. It would work every time and he would end up just laying down next to me all nice and calm, and of course I would reward him with some treats or bust out a chew toy for him. But chew toys for him kinda sucked, I remember I bought this one that said it was indestructible so I got the king size one and gave it to him, fifteen minutes later I couldn't find the toy till I looked around and saw little pieces of it allover the room.
 

nappy nuggs

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A loud noise is the best deterrent. Find some cheap instant coffee, or some type of metal canister with a lid that is short and squat in size. Take about a dollar or two worth of random change and put in it. Tape the lid on with electrical tape or duct tape. Shake when there is a bad behavior and be consistent. It works and soon the behavior will stop. Also do not start out shaking as loud as possible you just want it to get the attention of the pup.
 
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