Does Fox Farm Suck?

Just my opinion : Fox Farms used to be the SHIT. They then became VERY popular. Instead of figuring out how to keep up with demand, they cut corners. As my hippy friend said, "They went commercial maaaaaaan." So I guess it brings me to that old cliche, "Fox Farms, what HAPPENED to you? You used to be coooool maaaaan."

i had to problems with them maybe its the growers

i'm no expert, but i wouldn't recommend ff

then what do you recommend then ??

i make my own soil, starting out void of any nutes, then i use the FF trio, along with the salts, i like what i see......... FF is good shit, sometimes the users are quick to judge their own actions to be the culprit

bushybush said:

Just my opinion : Fox Farms used to be the SHIT. They then became VERY popular. Instead of figuring out how to keep up with demand, they cut corners. As my hippy friend said, "They went commercial maaaaaaan." So I guess it brings me to that old cliche, "Fox Farms, what HAPPENED to you? You used to be coooool maaaaan."

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Yep, Roots Organic is having the same problems, when they run out of something they replace it with what ever is cheapest.This means less quality and more bugs. I'm trying this stuff called Basement by Royl Gold (no bugs) looks good but won't know how good it works for a while. I'll post results.

cannabis420420 said:

i had to problems with them maybe its the growers

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my hydro guy dont stock ti anymore..id asked if could get the coco but said he quit buying the whole line due to probs....they used to golden 10 yrs or less ago..sucks

how do you screw it up so bad? Are you using acid-blocks for a medium?

yea ditch that crap.

Soooooooo out of all of the advanced growers on this site no one checks the EC from there runoff?????

i think ocean forest + light warrior (both from fox farm) would do a great job as a balanced mix

I am using it with good results. I wish I mixed some perlite in with it, but oh well.

Breadman said:

The reason I ask is because I feed my plants at 1.2 EC and the runoff comes out at 3.5 to 5.0 EC. I called my grow store and they told me they are having the same problem. thoughts??

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FF is good soil but has some issues like I have heard several times that it can bring bugs into your room because bugs lay eggs in it and when the temp heats up the eggs hatch. My ac broke and room got to 88 degrees for 2 days I fixed issue but 2 days later I saw bugs starting to appear. Thripe's White fly and root aphids with some other type of bug. I stay away from it now and found a better mix.

from what i have read, trust, i have done a lot and i mean a lot of research into which soil i should use. Im not down playing FF as a bad product because of everything that i have read, i have probably a 50/50 like/dislike of FF. Also, i have read great stuff about growers making their own mixes using fish meal, blood and bone meal, microbial life, myccorihizae, peat, dolomite, perlite, vermiculite, alfalfa meal, feather meal, and the holy grail of soil amendements **WORM CASTINGS**

What you are better off doing is making a grow with two same strain plants, same light schedule, and same TLC for each one in FF and another in your own homemade mix of soil with any of the aforementioned soil amendements and gauge your success with each, jotting down new growth each day or week, stem thickness and all that good stuff.

then after you have done your research and experiment, come to a conclusion based on your findings as which one worked the best.

hopefully that helped some

Damn yall stoners. The man just wants to kno if his EC should be skyrocketing like it is from his runoff?? Not if everyone prefers foxfarm over anything else. I've done this a while back just outta curiosity, I was using tap water and it comes out at around 24-28 ppm, when I checked my runoff, I'm not sure exact number but it was over 100 ppm. The way I c it, like someone earlier posted, is that its just pushing the nutrients that's built up in the soil out. R u doing this to try and get ur soil at the same ppm as ur water? If that's the case I think thatd be impossible bro. If ur plants aren't showing any sign of a burn or anything I wouldn't worry about It. I'm not a professional or even close but that's just my opinion

Ive used fox farms OF soil and whole fert line for a period longer then a year. I found that a new bag has alot of particles that come out the first 2 weeks or so of watering. I don't measure EC but I would compare ppm of going into soil and going out of soil and have seen rises over 500ppm. I would purposely not fert for the first two weeks and give alot of run off. I think if you flush your plants really good just one time that your huge EC gain will decrease. If your worried because its been longer then two weeks it may be because I run off quite alot of water. 3 gallons in and about 1 gallon out.
I too measure runoff everytime and I was always looking for info on other growers doing the same and it seems that there is alot of soil growers measure ppm and EC going in, but not alot of people measuring the run off.

So here is my two cents without knowing the whole picture:
1: Foxfarm OF soil has high ppm first few weeks.
2: with OF I wouldn't start first feed until leaves looked not dark enough
3: if on water only days ppm or EC of runoff has gained alot, either lower intake ppm, flush, or my preferred method of giving water only two times instead of feeding.

I don't believe you mentioned any attempt to flush and think you may of been a little quick to blame the soil. Hate to say it but it can be just another case of too much fertilizer not enough water.

Jack Larson said:

I just opened 8 bags of Roots Organic and 6 had fungus gnats!! nothing is safe. The best thing to do is buy your soil two weeks before you need it and pour Azamax in the bags, Ive done this with FF-OF but haven't needed to with RO till now.

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you're correct my man!!! Fungus gnats plagued the shit out of me this spring so far. The bag wasn't infested but it didn't take long for it to be. A small outbreak turned into 70 bucks worth of seeds destroyed by larvae.
I still stick by the roots .... It just works well for ME.
I will give OF a chance in the future...... but how i wish i had the room to make my own mix!!!

i used the entire fox farm line with pro mix

streets said:

i used the entire fox farm line with pro mix

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very nice indeed

cannabis420420 said:

very nice indeed

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thanks dude, i would honestly like to try using other nutrients but until i get a complete grasp on what my plants need to survive without overdoing it im going to continue learning and perfecting FF nutes..