Does my plant look good ??

chiano · Mar 26, 2023

Hello fellow growers i am growing gorilla cookies auto(D50) from fast buds and the leave seem a little bit down and droppy to me.
I am using 150w light,coco/ perlite from gold leaf and advanced nutrients nutes

MickFoster · Mar 26, 2023

What's your feeding schedule?
Are you letting the fabric pots sit in the run off?

Budzbuddha · Mar 26, 2023

How big of a grow space ?

Me thinks 150 watts ain’t gonna cut it for full flower potential.

go go kid · Mar 26, 2023

yeah, id only use a 150 w for seedlings and young plants or to flower a single plant.

farmingfisherman · Mar 26, 2023

150 watts would be great for a 1x1 tent or perhaps a 3x3 of fantastic larf! Though several of the seasoned vets here seem to be involved in testing Vipar's new 150 watt light. Going to be fun to see what they manage with so few watts. https://www.viparspectra.com/products/viparspectra-2023-design-xs1500-pro-led-grow-light

Budzbuddha · Mar 26, 2023

OP … you got any other lights laying around that could bump the light on them ?

They don’t look like they have been flower too long and whatever can boost them with you still have time to correct.

chiano · Mar 27, 2023

MickFoster said:
What's your feeding schedule?
Are you letting the fabric pots sit in the run off?

I follow advanced nutrients schedule water when the plant needs i always check weight and water when she needs, almost everyday now, the plant does not sit on the runoff i have a plate elevating it

chiano · Mar 27, 2023

Budzbuddha said:
OP … you got any other lights laying around that could bump the light on them ?

They don’t look like they have been flower too long and whatever can boost them with you still have time to correct.

I have one with 300w real powerbut the temperature inside my tent get tk 38°c with that. I used to use one mars hydro with 100w real power and i was able to grow with it, i was thinking with this one would be enough its 150w real power

chiano · Mar 27, 2023

Budzbuddha said:
OP … you got any other lights laying around that could bump the light on them ?

They don’t look like they have been flower too long and whatever can boost them with you still have time to correct.

What is a recomendation of a good grow light to a tent with 60cmx 60cm x160cm ??

medidedicated · Mar 27, 2023

chiano said:
What is a recomendation of a good grow light to a tent with 60cmx 60cm x160cm ??

I am going for 65-130 Watts next time. All I did was ruin a nice plant trying to go any higher than that for such small space (heat issues.)

I would make sure they do not exceed height limit as I have the same height tent and it caused foxtailing on what would of been a nice run. Still might be, it is just the tips. 260w was too much.

I let the coco dry too much but I am pointing out heat stress in my grow. That came first.

MickFoster · Mar 27, 2023

chiano said:
I follow advanced nutrients schedule water when the plant needs i always check weight and water when she needs, almost everyday now, the plant does not sit on the runoff i have a plate elevating it

I'm surprised you didn't have problems earlier.
Coco should never dry out.........it's not soil.........it's drain to waste hydroponics. Letting the pot get light only promotes salt build up, and problems.
Never give plain water.
I feed once a day to run off in veg and twice a day to run off in flower.
Hope that helps.......good luck.

chiano · Mar 27, 2023

medidedicated said:
I am going for 65-130 Watts next time. All I did was ruin a nice plant trying to go any higher than that for such small space (heat issues.)

I would make sure they do not exceed height limit as I have the same height tent and it caused foxtailing on what would of been a nice run. Still might be, it is just the tips. 260w was too much.

I let the coco dry too much but I am pointing out heat stress in my grow. That came first.

I bought also one with 300w i tried it a few days but my temps were always above 30°c, and i had to go back to the 150 that a friend of mine lended me , i am enjoying the upgrade from the mars hydro i used to have the only problem is this leafs on the gorila cookies on my green gelato everything going good

medidedicated · Mar 27, 2023

MickFoster said:
I'm surprised you didn't have problems earlier.
Coco should never dry out.........it's not soil.........it's drain to waste hydroponics. Letting the pot get light only promotes salt build up, and problems.
Never give plain water.
I feed once a day to run off in veg and twice a day to run off in flower.
Hope that helps.......good luck.

I did not even read that he was doing that, OP, look at my photo I just shared you; I am almost sure that is why my leaves look like that. Just set up my first auto feed to avoid drying out.

Less light/heat next time. This was a winter run too! The 90F temps must partly be the reason for such fast dryback with 260w led.

MickFoster · Mar 27, 2023

A light that pulls 150 actual watts out of the wall is plenty of light for a 2' x 2' area.........as long as it's a quality light.

chiano · Mar 27, 2023

MickFoster said:
I'm surprised you didn't have problems earlier.
Coco should never dry out.........it's not soil.........it's drain to waste hydroponics. Letting the pot get light only promotes salt build up, and problems.
Never give plain water.
I feed once a day to run off in veg and twice a day to run off in flower.
Hope that helps.......good luck.

I wasnt quite aware of that i was going by what i used to do at work and we usually did it like that to prevent also the excess water so the roots dont get sufocated, we used also coco substrakts. I only give plain water because i thought it was excess of nutrients and was trying to fix it. Thanks for your help

medidedicated · Mar 27, 2023

chiano said:
I bought also one with 300w i tried it a few days but my temps were always above 30°c, and i had to go back to the 150 that a friend of mine lended me , i am enjoying the upgrade from the mars hydro i used to have the only problem is this leafs on the gorila cookies on my green gelato everything going good

I had the same thing happen but I thought it was going well most of early flower until it did not stop reaching over 90F due to the light being too close to the ceiling.

It was about 85F but did not realize I got greedy with high wattage and was too late to correct. I am almost at harvest and have lights dimmed at 60% and using winter outside air to keep cool, still see 90F on the probe often times.

When I used a 130w ufo in same tent, the temps where perfect in summer time enviorment. The space above light matters, if it is insufficient, the hot air will droop to the canopy.

I am done with this tent. Using 6-8 feet tall space next time. Still 2x2 though. 65-130 watts. Thought this expirience would be relevant to yours.

MickFoster · Mar 27, 2023

chiano said:
I wasnt quite aware of that i was going by what i used to do at work and we usually did it like that to prevent also the excess water so the roots dont get sufocated, we used also coco substrakts. I only give plain water because i thought it was excess of nutrients and was trying to fix it. Thanks for your help

A plant in coco with established roots cannot be overwatered. Coco holds 30% oxygen when saturated, and if perlite is added, it would be even higher.
Plain water can mess up the cation exchange capacity......if you have a need to flush for some reason, use a light nute solution, or a calmag solution.

medidedicated · Mar 27, 2023

If you run out of light space, I did fine plopping the fan and filter onto a board, layed over the top of the tent. I feel like you have to for a 2x2.

chiano · Mar 27, 2023

medidedicated said:
I had the same thing happen but I thought it was going well most of early flower until it did not stop reaching over 90F due to the light being too close to the ceiling.

It was about 85F but did not realize I got greedy with high wattage and was too late to correct. I am almost at harvest and have lights dimmed at 60% and using winter outside air to keep cool, still see 90F on the probe often times.

When I used a 130w ufo in same tent, the temps where perfect in summer time enviorment. The space above light matters, if it is insufficient, the hot air will droop to the canopy.

I am done with this tent. Using 6-8 feet tall space next time. Still 2x2 though. 65-130 watts. Thought this expirience would be relevant to yours.

With this one of 150 on average i have 27 and its working good. might be my next update also so i can use more light is changing my tent lets see how this grow goes

chiano · Mar 27, 2023

MickFoster said:
A plant in coco with established roots cannot be overwatered. Coco holds 30% oxygen when saturated, and if perlite is added, it would be even higher.
Plain water can mess up the cation exchange capacity......if you have a need to flush for some reason, use a light nute solution, or a calmag solution.

Thank you i wasnt quite aware of that, so what do you think i should do next small dose of nutrients and calmag ? Or do you have a diferent opinion ?

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