Dog fighting discussion
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captiankush
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No, training them mostly focused on stamina and strength, as well as jaw grip. This was done by running them on a treadmill, pulling sleds and hanging from tires to thier hearts delight. My uncles dogs were part of the family.
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Priscilla420
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You can't compare a dog to a chicken when it comes to companionship, loyalty, intelligence, etc.. Dogs are loved by millions of people and are considered to be family by many. Unfortunately, chickens just can't compete lol
tnrtinr
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Like I stated - there is a difference between socialized dogs establishing a pecking order and a dog that is trained to have a stronger bite, more endurance, enhanced with drugs for better musculature and a higher pain threshold.
So you are desensitized. Your "experience" is utterly worthless in life.
The logic is easy enough to follow. Getting bit hurts. I love my dog and don't want to see her ever hurt. I would feel like a total worthless piece of shit if I EVER did ANYTHING intentionally to make her hurt. People who hurt their dogs do not love them; no matter how convoluted their logic is.
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lol you do got a point chickens aren't very loyal.
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Priscilla420
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I dont know exactly what your uncles did, but the things I listed previously happen all the damn time. You can't deny that there are people who train their dogs in that way. We've all heard the stories.
captiankush
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Rule 1: Size of pit, optional; to be square with sides 2 feet high, scratch line 12 feet apart.
Rule 2: Referee to be chosen before the dogs are weighed in or washed and referee to conduct the contest according to these rules and his decision to be final.
Rule 3: Referee to see the dogs weighed at time agreed on and if either dog is over top weight agreed on he loses the forfeit money.
Rule 4: Parties to toss coin to see who shall wash first, each party to furnish two clean towels and a blanket.
Rule 5: If requested to do so the referee shall search the person named to wash the dogs and then have him bare his arm to the elbow and wash both dogs in the same warm water and rinse them each in his half of the warm clean water provided for that purpose.
Rule 6: As the dogs are washed clean and dried they shall be turned over to their handlers and at once taken to their corners of the pit as designated by the referee and the referee must search handlers for means of foul play and see that he bares his arms to the elbow before he receives his dog and must keep his arms bare in such a manner during the contest.
Rule 7: The dog's owner or his representative shall be allowed at all times to be near his dog and watch to see that no harm is done him, and each owner shall be allowed to name a man or himself watch his opponent's dog and handler at all times to see he is given no unfair advantage.
Rule 8: Either dog's owner, handler, or watcher if he sees anything wrong must at once appeal to the referee and get his decision. And if any handler, watcher or owner violates any of these rules and thereby favors either dog the dog so favored must at once be declared the loser.
Rule 9: The interested parties shall choose a timekeeper at the pit side.
Rule 10: The dogs are placed in their corners of the pit, opposite corners, faces turned from each other and only the dogs and their handlers inside the pit. Then the referee shall say, "Face you dogs". Each handler must always show his dog full head and shoulders between his legs. The referee says, "Let go", but the handlers must never push or shove their dogs and handlers shall not leave their corners until the dogs are together.
Rule 11: Now when one of the dogs turns his head and shoulders away from his opponent after the fight is on it is a turn, whether they are in holds or free, and the handler must claim the turn and the referee must allow the claim if he believes it is a turn or the referee must call the first fair turn he sees whether the handler claims it or not and when the referee calls a turn he shall say, "Handle your dogs", and each handler must pick up his dog as soon as he can without breaking a hold. Handlers carry their dogs to their respective corners the referee shall say, "Face your dogs". Then the handlers must show their dog's head and shoulders between their legs, facing the center of the pit. The dog that turned first must scratch first. In five seconds more the referee shall say; "Let go", then the dog that made the first turn must be turned loose by his handler and this dog must go across and mouth the other dog. If, when he is turned loose he refuses to start at once or is he stops on the way over, or if he fails to reach his opponent must declare his opponent the winner. A handler is allowed to release his dog at anytime he sees fit after the dog whose turn it is to cross has started over. He must turn him loose when the dogs touch each other. He is not compelled to until then.
Rule 12:
Rule 14: If one of the dogs fangs himself, that is, if he gets his teeth hung in his own lip, his handler is allowed to un-fang him. If the dogs have to be separated for this they are turned loose again, both at the same time within two feet of each other in the center of the pit.
Rule 15: No sponging shall be allowed, and no towels or anything else taken into the pit by the handlers except a bottle of drink for his dog and a fan to cool him with. The handlers must taste their dogs drink before the referee to show that it contains no poison.
Rule 16: If the handler of either dog is seen to take anything from anyone on the outside of the pit he is to lose the battle. Each party shall have the right to put a man near his opponent's corner to watch the handler. Should he see the handler put anything on his dog he may appeal to the referee and if the referee finds anything on the dog he is to lose the battle.
Rule 17: Should either handler leave the pit with his dog before the referee renders his decision he is to lose the battle.
Rule 18: The handlers shall be allowed to encourage their dogs by voice or hand-clapping or snapping of fingers, but must not touch their dogs or use foul, dirty methods, by saving their dogs from hard fall or keeping the other handler away from his dog, or in any other way act unfairly. The referee must decide the battle against the one who does so.
Rule 19: Should the police interfere the referee to name the next meeting place.
Had to dig this up...
CK
Rule 2: Referee to be chosen before the dogs are weighed in or washed and referee to conduct the contest according to these rules and his decision to be final.
Rule 3: Referee to see the dogs weighed at time agreed on and if either dog is over top weight agreed on he loses the forfeit money.
Rule 4: Parties to toss coin to see who shall wash first, each party to furnish two clean towels and a blanket.
Rule 5: If requested to do so the referee shall search the person named to wash the dogs and then have him bare his arm to the elbow and wash both dogs in the same warm water and rinse them each in his half of the warm clean water provided for that purpose.
Rule 6: As the dogs are washed clean and dried they shall be turned over to their handlers and at once taken to their corners of the pit as designated by the referee and the referee must search handlers for means of foul play and see that he bares his arms to the elbow before he receives his dog and must keep his arms bare in such a manner during the contest.
Rule 7: The dog's owner or his representative shall be allowed at all times to be near his dog and watch to see that no harm is done him, and each owner shall be allowed to name a man or himself watch his opponent's dog and handler at all times to see he is given no unfair advantage.
Rule 8: Either dog's owner, handler, or watcher if he sees anything wrong must at once appeal to the referee and get his decision. And if any handler, watcher or owner violates any of these rules and thereby favors either dog the dog so favored must at once be declared the loser.
Rule 9: The interested parties shall choose a timekeeper at the pit side.
Rule 10: The dogs are placed in their corners of the pit, opposite corners, faces turned from each other and only the dogs and their handlers inside the pit. Then the referee shall say, "Face you dogs". Each handler must always show his dog full head and shoulders between his legs. The referee says, "Let go", but the handlers must never push or shove their dogs and handlers shall not leave their corners until the dogs are together.
Rule 11: Now when one of the dogs turns his head and shoulders away from his opponent after the fight is on it is a turn, whether they are in holds or free, and the handler must claim the turn and the referee must allow the claim if he believes it is a turn or the referee must call the first fair turn he sees whether the handler claims it or not and when the referee calls a turn he shall say, "Handle your dogs", and each handler must pick up his dog as soon as he can without breaking a hold. Handlers carry their dogs to their respective corners the referee shall say, "Face your dogs". Then the handlers must show their dog's head and shoulders between their legs, facing the center of the pit. The dog that turned first must scratch first. In five seconds more the referee shall say; "Let go", then the dog that made the first turn must be turned loose by his handler and this dog must go across and mouth the other dog. If, when he is turned loose he refuses to start at once or is he stops on the way over, or if he fails to reach his opponent must declare his opponent the winner. A handler is allowed to release his dog at anytime he sees fit after the dog whose turn it is to cross has started over. He must turn him loose when the dogs touch each other. He is not compelled to until then.
Rule 12:
- If neither dog has made a turn and they cease to fight after 60 seconds of no action the down dog is to scratch first, if he makes his scratch the fight is on and they shall scratch in turns until the contest is decided.
- If the down dog fails to scratch the other dog is to scratch to win. If he fails to scratch the contest shall be declared a draw by the referee.
- No handler is to handle his dog until ordered by referee, if he does, it shall be called a foul and he is to forfeit the contest to his opponent.
- No flash pictures or hitting on pit side shall be allowed unless agreed upon by the two contestants.
Rule 14: If one of the dogs fangs himself, that is, if he gets his teeth hung in his own lip, his handler is allowed to un-fang him. If the dogs have to be separated for this they are turned loose again, both at the same time within two feet of each other in the center of the pit.
Rule 15: No sponging shall be allowed, and no towels or anything else taken into the pit by the handlers except a bottle of drink for his dog and a fan to cool him with. The handlers must taste their dogs drink before the referee to show that it contains no poison.
Rule 16: If the handler of either dog is seen to take anything from anyone on the outside of the pit he is to lose the battle. Each party shall have the right to put a man near his opponent's corner to watch the handler. Should he see the handler put anything on his dog he may appeal to the referee and if the referee finds anything on the dog he is to lose the battle.
Rule 17: Should either handler leave the pit with his dog before the referee renders his decision he is to lose the battle.
Rule 18: The handlers shall be allowed to encourage their dogs by voice or hand-clapping or snapping of fingers, but must not touch their dogs or use foul, dirty methods, by saving their dogs from hard fall or keeping the other handler away from his dog, or in any other way act unfairly. The referee must decide the battle against the one who does so.
Rule 19: Should the police interfere the referee to name the next meeting place.
Had to dig this up...
CK
captiankush
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If you take the time to read the rules, you will see that physically forcing the dog to scratch is against the rules...
Like cannabis, driving something deeper into illegality leads to unsavory characters being involved in it.
CK
Yes there definitely are and I did make an effort to point out that those people are not true dog fighters and definitely were not in the majority when dog fighting was more popular.
Like cannabis, driving something deeper into illegality leads to unsavory characters being involved in it.
CK
capone6182
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Well captain kush knows tha deal,matter of fact no's the old rules,everything he said is right,dog fighting is falling,and the magazines, I have stacks of them,my dog was on the cover a cupple times,local,the time money and effort is a lot ,20 dogs is a big yard u gotta think dog food, fly repelentall, the pills, machinery, chain, fence,homemade medical,
Hell ima dumb ass for posting this but I think my days are done,
But then u gotta walk, run, fluke, and listen to all the barking when they hear something its all to much,
Captain kush,I could get along with u,all these other misinformed ppl can't understand,its like weed,I was always told lies intill I found out the truth,
Yep no skrach game,
O capitan u no there's a new rule running around cause ppl pumping steriods in there dogs,now some ppl piss test b4 tha fight,
Pitbulls are the best companion u can have man, they have such a strong love its crazy,I love my dogs more then any of u guys can imagine,its natural that they fight,
out in the wild wolfs fight for top dog right,so imagine a small box around them they could easly jump out of if they wonted just to make it organized,boundaries like any spoet and u got dog fighting,
Most. Of the timeu don't put opp sexs together cause of obvious facts but I had this crazy bitch that was fkd up in tha head or somethin I bumped her first time and she beat my other dogs ass that wass 2 years this bitch was 14-18months at the time and wasn't conditiond,tat bitch was my best dog I ever had she got to chapion and got stolen,I was thinkin about sellin her after a litter of pups guess greed caught me.
But yeah all u mis infomed ppl out there go read about
Gr ch. Jeep red boy,the mt man,damn what as that black dogs name? Gr ch mayday, gr ch chinaman...on and on grwat dogs my bloodlines was usual gr ch jeep red boy, chinaman,great producers.....
There was something I wanted to say but I've been drinking(alot) smokin this misinformed green herb
when ppl understand weed isn't wat ppl make of it then they'll start understanding tha ol days...
hell t.v can make anything into a sad story,its called marketing, nobody cared about dog fighting till mv fkd everybody now he acts aorry,how tha hell he sry mow,he only sry he got caugjt
I remember going to big events $50 a hea,ribs, steak,everything. Then ppl b betting on dogs and shit usta b a gentlemans game like golf...lol...show love to ur dogs biggggg money,that's y it got shut down,name one lucrative activity tha government dosent get payed,???none not even drugs, but dogs they didn't get shit,so they put this bullshit in ur heads...if a pitbull is human aggressive he was abusef at a uoung age,and is stir crazy needs to be put down,I've only been bit 40-50times in 20years none of them were outa aggression,
Long live tha kings
Hell ima dumb ass for posting this but I think my days are done,
But then u gotta walk, run, fluke, and listen to all the barking when they hear something its all to much,
Captain kush,I could get along with u,all these other misinformed ppl can't understand,its like weed,I was always told lies intill I found out the truth,
Yep no skrach game,
O capitan u no there's a new rule running around cause ppl pumping steriods in there dogs,now some ppl piss test b4 tha fight,
Pitbulls are the best companion u can have man, they have such a strong love its crazy,I love my dogs more then any of u guys can imagine,its natural that they fight,
out in the wild wolfs fight for top dog right,so imagine a small box around them they could easly jump out of if they wonted just to make it organized,boundaries like any spoet and u got dog fighting,
Most. Of the timeu don't put opp sexs together cause of obvious facts but I had this crazy bitch that was fkd up in tha head or somethin I bumped her first time and she beat my other dogs ass that wass 2 years this bitch was 14-18months at the time and wasn't conditiond,tat bitch was my best dog I ever had she got to chapion and got stolen,I was thinkin about sellin her after a litter of pups guess greed caught me.
But yeah all u mis infomed ppl out there go read about
Gr ch. Jeep red boy,the mt man,damn what as that black dogs name? Gr ch mayday, gr ch chinaman...on and on grwat dogs my bloodlines was usual gr ch jeep red boy, chinaman,great producers.....
There was something I wanted to say but I've been drinking(alot) smokin this misinformed green herb
when ppl understand weed isn't wat ppl make of it then they'll start understanding tha ol days...
hell t.v can make anything into a sad story,its called marketing, nobody cared about dog fighting till mv fkd everybody now he acts aorry,how tha hell he sry mow,he only sry he got caugjt
I remember going to big events $50 a hea,ribs, steak,everything. Then ppl b betting on dogs and shit usta b a gentlemans game like golf...lol...show love to ur dogs biggggg money,that's y it got shut down,name one lucrative activity tha government dosent get payed,???none not even drugs, but dogs they didn't get shit,so they put this bullshit in ur heads...if a pitbull is human aggressive he was abusef at a uoung age,and is stir crazy needs to be put down,I've only been bit 40-50times in 20years none of them were outa aggression,
Long live tha kings
capone6182
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Can somebody teach me how to train a dog to fight?
I just wanna no how ud go about doing that,what would u do push them together or something
I just wanna no how ud go about doing that,what would u do push them together or something
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x<Juniper][niartS>x
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Sounds like a sport to me as long as it is conducted by the rules captainkush posted. I think everyone who is pissed at this is sick for denying the dogs the joy of sport. I personally wouldn't fight dogs, as I have no desire to, but if I did it would be by the afore mentioned rules. They are not sick people because they have different beliefs than you do. Personally I think they are well within their rights to do so. Animals are lesser beings than humans and DO NOT have the same rights that people do. The fact that they are responsible enough to put in place a set of rules says that they actually care for the animals and are probably treated better than any pet you ever have or will own.
x<Juniper][niartS>x
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I'm amazed that you constantly ignore everything they have said regarding the subject. If you are against it the be against it for a legitimate reason, i.e. the morons who lace the food with gunpowder to make the aggressive. The same people who fight the to the death because they are ignorant and think it's "gangsta". Don't generalize and stereotype people. It only shows how ignorant you are. Keep all of this in mind for your future posts instead of name-calling and snide comments. The thread WAS titled "Dog Fighting Discussion". You aren't discussing so much as you are demonizing.
mindphuk
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Yes because cockfighting is so glamorous and so well loved and accepted by most people
Budme206
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Dog fighting is portrayed badly because so many people start doing it but don't really care, they are the ones you treat there dogs like shit and give them steroids because so they can make up for keeping there dog in a cage thats the size of a bathroom. However if a dog is treated well and is given rest after a fight then i really don't see the problem with it. I've been to places where people through there dogs on the side of the road if they don't meet there standards and they die within days, i find that far more cruel than dog fighting where atleast they have an owner to look out for them. Like was said earlier, its exactly like weed, a few people fuck it up for the rest of the people.
x<Juniper][niartS>x
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My point exactly. ^
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