they are junk, my buddy ordered some northern lights #1 feminized from them for like $230 and only 5 of them germinated and one turned out to be a male. non of which looked like northern lights by the way. i guess they are too fucked in the head to realize they are retards and who the fuck would pay 700 dollars for seeds either. that fucked up. they better make my whole house smell like a skunk bomb went off and they better trim there own damn leaves off. lol