Dr Greenthumb's ECSD and Turkish delight.

Forgive the cell phone camera photos, will switch to camera later.
This will be a joint grow journal, 6 of each. All vegged under a Fluence 2I then six moved to two Bestva Elites, 6 to remain under the Fluence for flower. House and Garden nutes, RapidRize 10x10x7 (HydroFarm) coco blocks. Done with trees, all plants to be topped.

Those are a couple of mothers in temporary residence, one Bubba OG, the other Carnage, both Dr Greenthumb strains. I'll include a couple of bud shots of them from previous grow.

I'll switch to real camera after this. The girls are doing well, ready to be topped shortly. Two great strains. The ecsd is the real thing. Its sad to see so many retailers simply crossing plants and representing the seeds as something they aren't. I have total confidence in the Doc's gear. The Turkish delight is a very rare find. Its a true land race indica......where else are you going to find that and be sure of it?
You know as we continue to cross strains again and again you don't really know what you're losing from the original plants they came from. I do know that the Turkish is supposed to be and outstanding medical plant.
On the previous bud shots above, the Bubba OG and the Carnage.... The BOG is a grower's plant for sure. Its more productive than either the Pre 98 bubba kush or the Ghost OG it came from and more potent. Great taste and long lasting buzz and customers love it. Carnage is also a special strain. Especially when properly cured smoking it is like drinking single malt Irish Whiskey. As Smooth a smoke as I've had and deceptive as well. You get a very strong Sativa rush almost instantly and around 20 minutes later you get a very relaxing Indica touch that just slides in. It may not be a beginner's strain to grow in that it is a little funky in veg and needs different nute strengths than others growing alongside it but once in flower its a trooper, easy to read. Very sativa dominant without the long reach of others too. As with all the Doc's gear a grow of six always gets you at least one perfect mom that expresses the strain well.
The current girls will be topped once and netted.

We're at around 4 weeks I guess. A little mag def there but caught it, fine now. Turkish delight and ECSD, both topped.

Day one in flower.

watching. Looks real good!

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Did either of you grow Chemdawg? I was wondering how loud the scent is, if it's as odor-fuel as ECSD.

I'm going to be ordering Blue Dream next, I might add Chemdawg in the same order.

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Well trained plants, I'll be watching too.

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No, chemdawg is on my list to do but its a long list.
DRG, good to see you again.

Hobbes said:

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Did either of you grow Chemdawg? I was wondering how loud the scent is, if it's as odor-fuel as ECSD.

I'm going to be ordering Blue Dream next, I might add Chemdawg in the same order.

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Well trained plants, I'll be watching too.

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It's fairly low odor during the grow but when it's harvested and drying it comes close to ECSD. More pinesol than fuel but still lots of fumes.

Agreed. Looking good .

I had never seen a greenthumbs grow before. It is impressive.

If he wasnt such a total dick when i contacted him, i would have tried some of these. Looking forward to the final results!

Dr Gruber said:

It's fairly low odor during the grow but when it's harvested and drying it comes close to ECSD. More pinesol than fuel but still lots of fumes.

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What do you recon of his ecsd dr gruber. Ive seen it grown an looks wise its probably one of the best ecsd seed versions ive seen. But whats it like in smell and taste compared to the original clone dr gruber, and consitancy seed to seed? Thanks

TheWholeTruth said:

What do you recon of his ecsd dr gruber. Ive seen it grown an looks wise its probably one of the best ecsd seed versions ive seen. But whats it like in smell and taste compared to the original clone dr gruber, and consitancy seed to seed? Thanks

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Very consistent. It's bad ass all the way. The smell/taste is pure fuel and you'd better have good carbon filtration because it overwhelms.
Nothing I've ever done has completely handled the odor.
It's potent...somewhere in the mid to high 20% range. Mine tested at around 23% and all the phenos I tested were in the same range. I saw some other tests by a grower from Maine that hit between 22% and 27%.
Yield is great too, one of the best.
I just grew one under a 600 ceramic hps and pulled 14 ounces.
Definitely one of my "go to" strains.

@drgruber Here's another thing I have going on is this experiment. In the first installment you'll see the two larger plants, a Bubba Og and a Carnage, both intended to be mothers. At the time of that photo those plants were already in flower but I didn't know it. They had been in another room with undesirable lighting for a few days. They went into a rapid growth spirt but were under 16 hr lights. They didn't revert, per se, but went into a sexually dormant state even while growing. They then got flipped at the same time as the escd. In these photos you can see the tips but although they have grown about an inch and a half the past few days those hairy tips had remained but not grown for the entire veg period they were reintroduced to. So now after flipping the lights they have really taken off.
So all that leaves me wondering, will I have a shortened budding period? Will I get a bunch of small buds off of them? I'm not sure what will happen with these two but it will be interesting to see.

Wow, that's crazy. I wonder what it will do to them? Only time will tell...I guess.

Yes, I will throw another shot of them up soon. It looks like they are just going to start buds without stretching. Never seen this type of thing before.

Here are some of the girls at end of week 2.
Included is a shot of the Frankenstein girls who were flipped on the same day. Very little stretch, they just went right into flower. Compare with the earlier shot. I did find one nanner but haven't found any since.

what a beautiful bud. whats your schedule on those house and garden nutes?
what ec do you run?
how many times a day fed?
how much run off?
do you precharge your coco with cal/mag?

You can't go by the plant you're referring to. Ever see Young Frankenstein? If so you'll remember Abby Normal which is what those two are. If you scroll up you'll see the explanation there and I have no idea what they are going to do. I call them Ms Frankenstein one and two. They do get the same nutes as the rest of the plants under the Fluent. I don't measure EC, just watch the plants and give them what they're asking for. At the moment they are getting the same as the others and liking it which surprises me as the ones under the Fluent generally require more than other lights, especially when compared to the diet for plants under the old sodiums. Having said that they are getting A and B only, done with roots, 12.5 ml per gallon which will change to 15 today. You definitely need the precharge with the coco I'm using and periodic half doses of it to keep up especially during this period.
I'm going to take a shot of this coco vs the Canna. Its the best I have seen. No perlite in it, not needed. It is much coarser than the Canna, no dust, and much cheaper. Plus it comes in bricks in fabric 10 1/2 inch square and is much easier to hydrate. Its made by Hydrofarm.....now my go to coco.
Once a day feeding and I don't worry much about the volume of runoff as long as I see some. One note on the Franky pair, I did find one single nanner on it at the start of flower, no issues since. I had space problems so unfortunately had to run them under an older LED which as far as I'm concerned is only good for vegging. Don't get me going on LED lights. Just get the Fluent and don't believe all the crap on the net about lights. Same with the nutrients. I've tried them all over the years and nothing compares to the H and G in all regards.

End of week 4. Frankensteins and second pair of diesels are under different lights so can't help much with the white balance on them. End and Side shots under the Fluence, the Turks are going to run 7 to 10 days behind the diesels by the looks of it.

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End of week 4. Frankensteins and second pair of diesels are under different lights so can't help much with the white balance on them. End and Side shots under the Fluence, the Turks are going to run 7 to 10 days behind the diesels by the looks of it.

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Yo, How did that Turkish delight turn out for you?