Dresser - 3 Sq. Ft. - 20,600 Lumens - Hydro

gotitgreen143 said:

damn man lookin real good cant wait to see them buds start poppin up. How many clones do you plan on taking

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Just 2.

Day 36- pH 5.8 - 960 ppm - Temp 74- RH 33%
Flowering - Day 12

Well I just had a big ass post typed out with a lot longer response to your question but somehow I must have exited the page.. sucks.. Lets see- I was going to post pics tonight of the plants but instead I hooked up my final exhaust / carbon filter setup for flowering. My 50 CFM bathroom exhaust fan just couldn't pump enough air to really push through the carbon filter very well. Today I made a trip to Menards and everything you see was found in their ducting section if your interested.

Parts list

1. 6" Round In-Line Duct Fan (250 CFM)- $27.97
2. Class B Rain Cap 4" - $8.38
3. (2) - 6" x 4" Reducers - $5.32 Ea.
4. 3" x 4" Plastic Increaser - $1.79
5. 3" x 8' Flexible Tube (white) - $3.59
6. Class B Wall Band 6" - $5.29

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Total = $57.66 - NOT including tax.

Here is everything laid out in the way it will be assembled.


A close up of the cap so you know what it looks like. The carbon filter will be wrapped around this.


Fitting the Carbon Filter to the Cap. Cut about a 1/2" wider on each side.


The Carbon filter "CAP" all wrapped up.


This is my idea for a sound dampener. Seems to work well as I did't even know the fan was on. I put one where each screw meets the dresser on the strap. Also on the strap where the 6" fan comes in contact. Had them laying around the house.


First pic is closer up without the filter on. Just showing that you can Put on and Remove the filter without taking the whole thing out. Second pic is the end result. This should work like a charm. Figured I should get this out of the way before the buds really started smelling.


After it was in I applied 1 -2 complete wraps around each joint with Duct Tape to seal. Let me know what you guys think. Total system cost $60. I think it will work great for me.

wow that looks lik a great idea. was it hard to assemble???? i wish i could help you as much as ur helpin me... what is that sound dampner made of?? ooo and is your hydro system diy if so can you give me an out line on how its made??? after i get my plants goin i plan on taking clones and i was gonna try hydro out.

sry bout all the questions if its too much jus let me kno
thx

gotitgreen143 said:

wow that looks lik a great idea. was it hard to assemble???? i wish i could help you as much as ur helpin me... what is that sound dampner made of?? ooo and is your hydro system diy if so can you give me an out line on how its made??? after i get my plants goin i plan on taking clones and i was gonna try hydro out.

sry bout all the questions if its too much jus let me kno
thx

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Yea, it seems to work pretty well. I could have saved 8 bucks and done with out the Cap and just wrapped my filter around the open end and zip tied it on.. I tried that and it seems to push a little more air out of the filter. The CAP gets bigger at the end allowing the pressure to give a little. I should have thought about that but oh well.. trial and error. Definatley pushes air out the filter though.. this should work very well for me. It was VERY simply to assemble- how you see it in the first picture is pretty much how you assemble it.. Just push it all together and run a piece of duct tape around each joint. Zip tie the white tube and the carbon filter. Yea my Hydro is DIY, I will outline it for you tomorrow.. I am beat its 2:40 in the morning Oh the sound dampener is LIKE those felt pads so your cabinets don't hit your face frames and shit.. but instead of felt its like a soft rubber cushion.. used for same application though. Think wally sells them. Don't worry about asking to many questions... like I said- if I Can help.. i will, I enjoy it

You're a genius .

gotitgreen143 said:

wow that looks lik a great idea. was it hard to assemble???? i wish i could help you as much as ur helpin me... what is that sound dampner made of?? ooo and is your hydro system diy if so can you give me an out line on how its made??? after i get my plants goin i plan on taking clones and i was gonna try hydro out.

sry bout all the questions if its too much jus let me kno
thx

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My bubbler is is 6 gal tote. I originally had 4 plants in mind however after seeing the size of two, 4 is not in the question any more. I have 2 - 60-80 Gallon Whisper Air pumps hooked to 2 - dark blue heavy air stones about 4" long. I am using General Hydroponic Nutes. Here is a picture of my hydro bubbler res.

It is very simple- NOT complex like a lot of people think. Personally I think it is easier to grow in Hydro if you understand the concept of how a plant grows... Oxygen is primarily absorbed through the roots and Co2 is absorbed by the top green growth. Basically your plants need Oxygen and they Need water. Besides Nutes thats all you have to implement. You can not let light leak into your Res tank or bacteria will grow. More Oxygen is absorbed in cooler water so you will want to keep your Res. Temps around 68f. If you need to, you can chill with frozen pop bottles filled with water and place in Res tank. If your Res Tank is clear plastic you can get a bottle of spray glue from lowe's and spray the outside of the Res Tank and wrap Foil around it. Works very well. Other thing you WILL need to get if you are going to go hydro... Digital PPM Meter and pH Test drops or Strips (Doesn't have to be Diggi, as long as you can keep it in range of 5.5-6.5, which is very easy)

titleistbudz said:

You're a genius .

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Haha- the mad botanist. Nah- I am just way too obsessed and need to just leave my shit alone.. Seems like everyday I want to do something else or build something else, I am just glad everything is working out well so far.


Day 37- pH 6 - 1050 ppm - Temp 75- RH 42%
Flowering - Day 13

A few more hairs are popping up on the bigger plant. The smaller still doesn't really have any hairs coming out. I got around to taking 1, very small clone from each plant today. I put in Rockwool, Hydroton around the wool, 3" Dia. pot in my Mini-Hydro-Bubbler Veg Cab. I will be curious to see how these grow compared to my other plants that Had ZeoPro instead of Rockwool in the center. If these grow not as well as my current plants I will probably take a 3" Dia. pot and fill it with ZeoPro, take a 5 1/2" pot and fill it with Hydroton and place my next grow- probably some genetics- in the 3" ZeoPro pot and place in the 5 1/2" Hydroton pot with Hydroton around the sides of 3" pot to limit the ZeoPro falling into my Res. As you can see my PPM have raised a little bit. That means they are using more Water than Nutes- there could be Nute Burns coming but since I seen nothing but healthy strong growth (my plants grew about 2" in the dark period last night with new nutes) with no signs of burns or stress on either plant. I will watch them closely but my PPM usually raises in the Dark period any ways and lowers during the end of my light cycle. I usually check pH and PPM right when the lights come on. Here are the pics. I know the clones are very small and hopefully make it but we'll see- all i could get off my plants without sacrificing ones that were getting full light. Oh in the Mini-Bubblers for the clones... I added 3 1/2 tablespoons of Green Lightning water based formula to a gallon of natural Well water from my house. I figured the Natural nutes in my water will be fine for right now and that way I don't have to buy more RO water for these little things. The bubbles in the mini-bubblers are hardcore and splash the shit out of the bottom of the pots. I think this might work but I have never used this Green Lighting Liquid shit before.. I don't think I used any kind of "rapid rooting" shit when I did it last time in soil... just took a cutting and planted it and about shit when it grew like crazy. [EDIT] lol, just seen I typed like 5 "shits" in a row..

I'll get these first pics out of the way. I will probably not update much on these things and may possibly start a different thread for when I do update on them (probably when they have good roots going). Told you they were small! (Not much smaller than the Clone I took last time that worked in soil).. You can see the slight angle at which I cut the stem. I think this promotes better root growth than a straight cut.


On with the pics for the plants...
This picture thought I was just sizing things up to see how much more height I got.. Plenty enough I think.


Here is a top view, Angled view, and one top of each plant.


Couple Close-ups.. First on is of soon to be Cola top of biggest.. second is just another top on same plant.


The next first 5 pics are from the last 8 Day comparison I did on 2/4. The ones after are all about 2 days apart and the last pic is of tonight.

Pics Spread out by about 2 days. First pic is from I think 1/26/08 last is from 2/16/08


Enjoy.

Thats some nice growing! VERY BUSHY!!!

GrowinFlorida said:

Thats some nice growing! VERY BUSHY!!!

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Thanks man. Very bushy indeed. The smallest bush finally stretched a little last night in her dark period. I would say about 1.5" but still extremely bushy. I had a hard time even finding a clone in the small one. Its so bushy, it is pretty much just all tops because the canopy shadows everything underneath. Not what I had in mind but oh well.

Geeze those things poofed up.

your plants look nice !

hey man thx for the setup and stuff imma try to set mine up tonight

wow your plants are looking way bushier lol

Thanks for the comments guys.

Day 38- pH 5.8 - 1200 ppm - Temp 74- RH 56%
Flowering - Day 14

I could be wrong but it seems like the stretch is coming to an end. It doesn't seem like the plants got any taller in the last dark period but I do see a lot more hairs. Little one is still not showing me much but smells beautiful. My PPM raised again, 150 ppm. I am still not real worried as they drank about 1.5 gallons of water in 2 days. The water level is about half way so tomorrow I will do another Res change with some Fresh Nutes. My fans inside the Cab took a shit on me. I am pretty sure it was because it got hot as hell up there last night because I left the wood burner wide open... and I had the transformers on those fans taped with black tape.. I could be wrong on this also but I think the black tape insulated the heat inside and finally burned it out. Luckily my new 250 CFM exhaust hook up is keeping the cab about 5 degree's warmer than room temp about 1"-2" from bulbs without any air circulation inside the cab. Anybody know about how long plants stretch for?

oscarmiya said:

Just 2.

Day 36- pH 5.8 - 960 ppm - Temp 74- RH 33%
Flowering - Day 12

Well I just had a big ass post typed out with a lot longer response to your question but somehow I must have exited the page.. sucks.. Lets see- I was going to post pics tonight of the plants but instead I hooked up my final exhaust / carbon filter setup for flowering. My 50 CFM bathroom exhaust fan just couldn't pump enough air to really push through the carbon filter very well. Today I made a trip to Menards and everything you see was found in their ducting section if your interested.

Parts list

1. 6" Round In-Line Duct Fan (250 CFM)- $27.97
2. Class B Rain Cap 4" - $8.38
3. (2) - 6" x 4" Reducers - $5.32 Ea.
4. 3" x 4" Plastic Increaser - $1.79
5. 3" x 8' Flexible Tube (white) - $3.59
6. Class B Wall Band 6" - $5.29

-----------------------------------
Total = $57.66 - NOT including tax.

Here is everything laid out in the way it will be assembled.

A close up of the cap so you know what it looks like. The carbon filter will be wrapped around this.

Fitting the Carbon Filter to the Cap. Cut about a 1/2" wider on each side.

The Carbon filter "CAP" all wrapped up.

This is my idea for a sound dampener. Seems to work well as I did't even know the fan was on. I put one where each screw meets the dresser on the strap. Also on the strap where the 6" fan comes in contact. Had them laying around the house.

First pic is closer up without the filter on. Just showing that you can Put on and Remove the filter without taking the whole thing out. Second pic is the end result. This should work like a charm. Figured I should get this out of the way before the buds really started smelling.

After it was in I applied 1 -2 complete wraps around each joint with Duct Tape to seal. Let me know what you guys think. Total system cost $60. I think it will work great for me.

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I was just looking at this same fan at menards! I'm getting ready to buils one for my closet grow. You are just venting back in the room right? If I'm just going to grow 4-6 small plants I can vent into my attic without worring about
moisture problems I hope? I'm going to use soil.
peace man

P.S. Almost forgot the most important ? did you get your carbon filter at menards too? And how much was that

Rope Smoker said:

I was just looking at this same fan at menards! I'm getting ready to buils one for my closet grow. You are just venting back in the room right? If I'm just going to grow 4-6 small plants I can vent into my attic without worring about
moisture problems I hope? I'm going to use soil.
peace man

P.S. Almost forgot the most important ? did you get your carbon filter at menards too? And how much was that

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I wouldn't worry about Moisture problems venting to attic but thats just me. I am venting straight back into my bedroom. There is another vent behind the exhaust setup on the backside. The carbon filter I got at Lowe's actually. You can find it right with the Furnace filters and its a black sheet, folded up that comes in a box. I think it was right around $20 for a decent size sheet of it. I would say 3x3 or something close.


Day 39- pH 5.7 - 1250 ppm - Temp 70- RH 37%
Flowering - Day 15

Cab temps got a little low today, turned the heater up a bit. I did another Res. Change today and the Res leveled out at about 1250 PPM. Here is about what I added to reach that.

6.5 mL - Flora Gro
13.5 mL - Flora Micro
20 mL - Flora Bloom
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Total= 1150 ppm just Nutrients.

+3 mL - pH uP
Total = 100 ppm just pH Up

= 1250 ppm total.
I will post more pics tomorrow as the plants haven't changed much. There are more hairs and they haven't really been stretching anymore. I don't think I will have problems with the increased PPM but we'll see. Before I changed the Res, the PPM actually went down. I made one last attempt (I think) at positioning the tops. The smaller plants seems to still be stretching a little and has actually started filling up its side of the cab. She also developed a very nice flat canopy... I can't wait to try some of these buds.. the plants smells.. almost fruity but has that mouth watering fresh marijuana smell to it. The biggest plant is starting to smell a little more but really not much at all. Check back tomorrow for pics.

This has to be the coolest and ingenus setup ive ever seen! This is gonna be nice! you look like you have this ver orgidnized.

That is a really cool stealth set up you have. When the lights are on inside the set up, and the lights are off in your room, can you see any light escaping? Seems like it would be hard to get it 100% light tight.

Best of luck on your crop.

A Pot Farmer said:

This has to be the coolest and ingenus setup ive ever seen! This is gonna be nice! you look like you have this ver orgidnized.

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Thanks man

Lord Dangly Bits said:

That is a really cool stealth set up you have. When the lights are on inside the set up, and the lights are off in your room, can you see any light escaping? Seems like it would be hard to get it 100% light tight.

Best of luck on your crop.

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there is really no light escape except for on the backside vent on the bottom... there is a little light that comes out from there but you have to be looking hard. I could cover it up but it doesn't bother me at all. There is Vacuum tape.. sorta light weather striping, around the backside of the drawers to seal them, the catches pull the drawer front tight to the face frame. There was a little leak in the top drawer where the electrical is but I covered all of that up.

Day 40- pH 5.8 - 1200 ppm - Temp 68- RH 56%
Flowering - Day 16

Well my exhaust fan is actually working too good. I might wrap another carbon filter around to slow air flow because even though my room is about 71, the exhaust pulls enough air to cool it about 3-4 degrees cooler than room temp.. I should hook up a dimmer switch to it. Look for that soon.
The plants look to be doing very well. The PPM only decreased 50 PPM so that is a good sign to me. I'll let them drink this up again until they get low. There are a few more hairs showing but all and all there is not HUGE changes. You may see some green growth changes but I think it is starting to grow hairs more as it only grew about .5"-.75" in its dark period, starting to get closer to lights though, may need to lower the plants a couple inches in a day or so.. Here is some pics

Top view and 2 of each.




Here is a couple of the tops showing hairs AND the last one showing the main cola on the big plant.


To finish this shorter post (not much going on) I will post a pic of the underside of the canopy on the smaller plant. Been trying to get a decent one for a while but it is always too bushy. You can see it Topped.

Day 42- pH 5.8 - 1400 ppm - Temp 75- RH 47%
Flowering - Day 18

Alright, well I was a little busy and didn't get a chance to update yesterday. I was flat WRONG when I said these things were slowing down. What I found out is they were just wanting more food. After I did that res. change with fresh nutes they shot up some more. My PPM has raised about 150 PPM since the change but that is not a worry to me with this high PPM, not to mention the plants look wonderful. Starting to get more obvious bud sites on the bigger plant and I still haven't seen 1 fucking hair on my small plant. Must be a late bloomer, I know its female.. just hasn't showed me much yet. For the past 2 days I haven't had to add any PH Up or Down. My roots are very white, almost whiter than what they appeared before and they are also starting to grow more since I switched to flowering. I will try to include some pics of the roots in the next picture post but this is all I have for now. Enjoy.

The ole top view with angle and pic of each.


This next pic is just the backside of the big plant... the back part that is up against the back dresser wall.


The next set of pics is of bud sites. Ahh, I can't fucking wait.
The first two pics are of the same bud..


And back in their little room. Hope they stop growing taller soon as I am starting to get short on space. I can tie a little more but not much.

Awesome bro. Those things are unreal. I hope my start puffing up as well as yours.

titleistbudz said:

Awesome bro. Those things are unreal. I hope my start puffing up as well as yours.

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Thanks man. Its crazy, every time I feed these things they explode and they keep wanting more. I will bet you yours will be puffin up quick here in a few days. Its nuts to actually see how much they grow, the node lengths go from 1/4" spacing or 1/2" spacing to like 2"-4" spacing in what seems like over night. Ur so damn lucky- wish I had all them girls.

Hey man I just found your thread a couple days ago when I was checkin out Titleist's...I think your whole setup is awesome...I'm thinking about doin something very much like yours except I might try to have 2 sections, one for flowering and one for veg then a compartment for a few mother's...but we'll see I may just start small and work my way up to that...anyway goodluck the rest of the way I'll definitely be watching!