Tomatoesonly
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Can you explain the "clumping"? What exactly is happening.. is it while you are mixing it or ?
Drip hydro nutrient vs Athena vs Jack
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kratosxxl
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no clumping is prob wrong word lol it becomes solid like concrete inside sealed bucked
Tomatoesonly
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Ohhh.. so the actual bag of MB starts getting hard and difficult to use? That's weird. Thanks for the heads up!!
kratosxxl
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Yup. And i do keep it in air tide sealed bucket
amneziaHaze
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i just squiz the bag before use. it gets hard but nothing crazy like concrete 
first 2 years it was good now third year it got hard probably moisture got inside over time
first 2 years it was good now third year it got hard probably moisture got inside over time
kratosxxl
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In the bag everything was fibe problem started when i moved salt to bucket.i just squiz the bag before use. it gets hard but nothing crazy like concrete
first 2 years it was good now third year it got hard probably moisture got inside over time
kratosxxl
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What rates u using it ? Im at 7 and 3.5 (calnit )i just squiz the bag before use. it gets hard but nothing crazy like concrete
first 2 years it was good now third year it got hard probably moisture got inside over time
amneziaHaze
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same as the bag is saying. had to give tiny bit of magnesium at the end of stretch but now back at the normal numbers 2:1:2
Tolerance Break
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All you need is Jacks A, B, and Epsom. The other blends are just supplementary, except RO, which is actually really nice for a veg/mother tent. Seen people flower with it, but I haven't tried it yet.
I got the big bags of A and B for $120 and it will last me at least 5 years.
I got the big bags of A and B for $120 and it will last me at least 5 years.
beefninja97
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is this flora bloom? how do you use it with jack's?
kratosxxl
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I don't think replacing 5-12-24 with this will work thats why. I switched to masterblend 0-12-22
Tomatoesonly
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Absolutely.
Hobbyists and professionals alike do NOT have nutrient levels down to a perfect science. They are still discovering stuff, and you can have one researcher say one thing, and another say something different. Sometimes they aren't university level experiments, but people who did their own research and found something they've been willing to share. Also different cultivars may want different levels of a single element. You need to be able to provide that.
So having FULL control over all aspects of the Nutrients levels is where we need to end up. If a pre mix fits the bill as YOU see it, go for it. But if someone wants to run very little P at the end of flowering, then a 0-5-4 is NOT the right move.
Use the flora bloom 0-5-4 without Jacks if you want no nitrogen in the end. I use Jacks tap or RO tapered down to EC1.0 last week before two week flush. NPK ratio of 3-1-4 is perfect for every plant i have grown, for 30yrs. May have to adjust the EC for some plants but EC1.2-1.5 will be perfect for every plant. Get whatever brand gets you the 3-1-4 ratio the cheapest. If you are using water with some alkalinity get one with a little NH4. I use the Tap and RO alternating with my well water. 25lb bag of each every 2 months.
Tomatoesonly
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That is backed up by NOBODY man. I'm just stunned at this statement.
rkymtnman
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you pick your best ferts and i'll set the environment parameters for your next grow. deal?
bk78
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michojay
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I just picked up a bag of this. It was clumped up pretty good but when I put it in the bucket I just broke it up with my hands. How are you liking it? how did you end up running it?