Drooping Leaves with two seedlings

EnormousGrowth

EnormousGrowth

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Hi, having problems with two of my girls. It may be overwatering, as I added a half gallon of Recharge water first on Saturday, then on Monday. If you could give me prognosis and treatment plan, I would be very appreciative. Click here for pictures!

How long has this problem been going on? 2 days
Are you growing in a PVC grow tent? (example: Hydrohut or any other non brand tents) No
What system are you running? (DWC? Ebb flow? Aero? Water Farm? Flood Tables? and so on...) Ebb and flow
What STRAIN are you growing? Issues are affecting Cheese and Blue Dream (also growing Green Crack and Lemon Skunk, both doing well)
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?) Seed
What is the age of your plants? Less than a week
How long have they been in there mixture they are in now?(coco,soiless etc..) They germinated in rockwool
How tall are the plants? Two inches max
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? Seedling
What Technique are you using? None yet
What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.) Rockwool
What is the Water temperature? 68F
What color are your roots? White? Brown? Are your roots slimy? Can not see
What Nutrient's are you using?(If growing soiless) None yet
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*
How often are you feeding? (If using soiless) 6 AM for 15 minutes and 6 PM for 15 minutes (I added some Recharge on Saturday and on Monday, a half gallon split between all 4)
How often are you giving nutrients? (If using soiless) None yet
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients? N/A
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect) N/A
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using? RO only
What is the pH of the "Tank"? 5.7
How often are you testing your pH/PPM/EC/TDS? Twice a day
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equipment? Yes
When was your last watering? 6 AM
What is your water temps? 68F
When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional) N/A
How often do you clean your system: example: Flush out water replace with clean water and nutrients? Weekly
What size bulb are you using? Mars Hydro 600w x4
How old is the bulbs you are using? New
What is the distance to the canopy? 12"
What is your RH Factor(Relative Humidity)? 40-50
What is the canopy temperature? 75-81F
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range) 81-68F
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) 440cfm
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ? Ventilation is always running, passive intake,
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? Now, yes, but when problem occurred, no.
Is your water HARD or SOFT? N/A
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? RO
If using tap water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS of the water right out of the tap? N/A
If using RO,Distilled,mineral water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS without any additives? 20
Are you using water from a water softener? No
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched? No
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When? No
Are plant's infected with pest's? No
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

Well-Known Member
EnormousGrowth said:
Hi, having problems with two of my girls. It may be overwatering, as I added a half gallon of Recharge water first on Saturday, then on Monday. If you could give me prognosis and treatment plan, I would be very appreciative. Click here for pictures!

How long has this problem been going on? 2 days
Are you growing in a PVC grow tent? (example: Hydrohut or any other non brand tents) No
What system are you running? (DWC? Ebb flow? Aero? Water Farm? Flood Tables? and so on...) Ebb and flow
What STRAIN are you growing? Issues are affecting Cheese and Blue Dream (also growing Green Crack and Lemon Skunk, both doing well)
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?) Seed
What is the age of your plants? Less than a week
How long have they been in there mixture they are in now?(coco,soiless etc..) They germinated in rockwool
How tall are the plants? Two inches max
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? Seedling
What Technique are you using? None yet
What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.) Rockwool
What is the Water temperature? 68F
What color are your roots? White? Brown? Are your roots slimy? Can not see
What Nutrient's are you using?(If growing soiless) None yet
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*
How often are you feeding? (If using soiless) 6 AM for 15 minutes and 6 PM for 15 minutes (I added some Recharge on Saturday and on Monday, a half gallon split between all 4)
How often are you giving nutrients? (If using soiless) None yet
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients? N/A
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect) N/A
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using? RO only
What is the pH of the "Tank"? 5.7
How often are you testing your pH/PPM/EC/TDS? Twice a day
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equipment? Yes
When was your last watering? 6 AM
What is your water temps? 68F
When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional) N/A
How often do you clean your system: example: Flush out water replace with clean water and nutrients? Weekly
What size bulb are you using? Mars Hydro 600w x4
How old is the bulbs you are using? New
What is the distance to the canopy? 12"
What is your RH Factor(Relative Humidity)? 40-50
What is the canopy temperature? 75-81F
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range) 81-68F
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) 440cfm
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ? Ventilation is always running, passive intake,
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? Now, yes, but when problem occurred, no.
Is your water HARD or SOFT? N/A
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? RO
If using tap water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS of the water right out of the tap? N/A
If using RO,Distilled,mineral water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS without any additives? 20
Are you using water from a water softener? No
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched? No
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When? No
Are plant's infected with pest's? No
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I didn't count but a picture is worth 1000 words. At least.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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EnormousGrowth said:
Roger that. Stick with the 6 AM and 6 PM for 15 minutes schedule or drop it down a bit more?
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What? Wait a minute here!

Might help if I read the whole post eh? My bad.

OK, the system should be running 4-5 times a lighting period at 15 min per - ok

I always ran mine 5 times with the last being right at lights out to hold over till lights on and the first cycle..

Sorry about that
Doc
 
EnormousGrowth

EnormousGrowth

Member
If that's the case, why is the Cheese having problems when the Blue Dream and Lemon Skunk are thriving? They're all getting equal exposure to everything, with the exception of the Recharge water I added. Didn't evenly portion it out.

Thanks

Dr. Who said:
What? Wait a minute here!

Might help if I read the whole post eh? My bad.

OK, the system should be running 4-5 times a lighting period at 15 min per - ok

I always ran mine 5 times with the last being right at lights out to hold over till lights on and the first cycle..

Sorry about that
Doc
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tropicalcannabispatient

tropicalcannabispatient

Well-Known Member
EnormousGrowth said:
If that's the case, why is the Cheese having problems when the Blue Dream and Lemon Skunk are thriving? They're all getting equal exposure to everything, with the exception of the Recharge water I added. Didn't evenly portion it out.

Thanks
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to answer that remember different strains react in different ways, even beans from the same strain behave differently.. Make changes and adjust things as u go, it looks like an overwatering issue. U know what u have to do. Give them less water at least to the ones that u see that dont like too much water. good luck!!
 
EnormousGrowth

EnormousGrowth

Member
Sounds good. So back to the other question. 15 minutes at 6 AM and 6 PM or is that still too much?

tropicalcannabispatient said:
to answer that remember different strains react in different ways, even beans from the same strain behave differently.. Make changes and adjust things as u go, it looks like an overwatering issue. U know what u have to do. Give them less water at least to the ones that u see that dont like too much water. good luck!!
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Dr. Who

Dr. Who

Well-Known Member
tropicalcannabispatient said:
to answer that remember different strains react in different ways, even beans from the same strain behave differently.. Make changes and adjust things as u go, it looks like an overwatering issue. U know what u have to do. Give them less water at least to the ones that u see that dont like too much water. good luck!!
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He's in an Ebb and Flow! Less is not what he needs!
2 cycles is not enough nutrition, unless the ppm's are through the roof!
They will adjust - I suspect a light root system and their having a bit of adjustment period to the ebb system!

pH to 5.8 to 6.2 and don't go lower with rockwool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where there roots in your starter media that you could see?
How big are the Rockwool cubes IN the ebb

DO NOT go light on your cycles! and start the bloody nutrition now! - 1/2 strength and go to full when you see roots out of the rockwool..

4 cycle minimum! 5 will be best!

Doc
 
EnormousGrowth

EnormousGrowth

Member
I have added 3 more cycles. Nutrients started at 2.5ml/gal each. PPM 338, pH 5.8.

Thanks! I'll keep my main thread updated.
 
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tropicalcannabispatient

tropicalcannabispatient

Well-Known Member
Dr. Who said:
He's in an Ebb and Flow! Less is not what he needs!
2 cycles is not enough nutrition, unless the ppm's are through the roof!
They will adjust - I suspect a light root system and their having a bit of adjustment period to the ebb system!

pH to 5.8 to 6.2 and don't go lower with rockwool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where there roots in your starter media that you could see?
How big are the Rockwool cubes IN the ebb

DO NOT go light on your cycles! and start the bloody nutrition now! - 1/2 strength and go to full when you see roots out of the rockwool..

4 cycle minimum! 5 will be best!

Doc
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ups. i just read the first 2 sentences. lmao.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

Well-Known Member
You need roots coming just out of the plug you put in the Cube - before you put it in the cube....
Never let the res get over 68F or you can get root rot easy.....
 
EnormousGrowth

EnormousGrowth

Member
My res is outside the tent and remains a pretty comfortable temperature. Never over 70. Live and learn. Thanks so much for your help!
 
EnormousGrowth

EnormousGrowth

Member
Update: Had a bit of calcium deficiency, so fixed that problem. The rest of the plants are doing ok, cheese is barely hanging on, but still trying to produce new leaves. The stem is crazy thin and I think it collapsed under its own weight. Added a support. I don't have pictures atm, but it looks pretty much the same as before. What are the chances of it coming back? Should I just germinate something else or leave it alone?
 
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