Droopy plants! Some happy some sad 1 month veg

Beanstalks

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The only time I don't follow the water once and feed once a week is when they're seedlings. At ground break, I water using about 2 shot glasses or 60 ml of water every other day. In a Solo cup I water at the stem only. When I transplant to the 3 gallon pots, I then start the twice a week schedule. I then start from the outside working my way to stem. This in my theory allows the roots to reach for water more evenly to create a nice even root ball.
Thanks for the help , your girls look great by the way , if your watering twice a week I am drowning my girls a slow death. Gonna readjust hopefully I can get these girls thriving again
 

Clumpyoyster

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Thanks for the help , your girls look great by the way , if your watering twice a week I am drowning my girls a slow death. Gonna readjust hopefully I can get these girls thriving again
Always dump run off water as well. Dont let that fester under your plant. That's why risers are imperative with a tray beneath it
 

SPLFreak808

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Forgive me for pointing you in a totally opposite direction as the others, i feel you should read up horticulture studies/books ect on how to take care of soil when using organic amendments.

You don't want run-off or a heavy wet cycle & with well rooted containers you don't want a heavy dry cycle, might take you a run or two to get it all dialed in.

If they perk up after a watering, take a picture of the bottom fan leaves or remember what they look like, those same fan leaves will start to point down as the soil hits the dry side again.

If your feeding pH'ed solubles or starting with a fresh transplant, then yeah, you can let it dry up a bit more.

 

Beanstalks

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Forgive me for pointing you in a totally opposite direction as the others, i feel you should read up horticulture studies/books ect on how to take care of soil when using organic amendments.

You don't want run-off or a heavy wet cycle & with well rooted containers you don't want a heavy dry cycle, might take you a run or two to get it all dialed in.

If they perk up after a watering, take a picture of the bottom fan leaves or remember what they look like, those same fan leaves will start to point down as the soil hits the dry side again.

If your feeding pH'ed solubles or starting with a fresh transplant, then yeah, you can let it dry up a bit more.

I started the book but skipped to the teas gonna have to get me an actual copy to really read it , I’ll give this a shot , I know once I dial this watering situation everything should come in
 

Beanstalks

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So after watering Saturday evening, the girls were happy last night . This morning already had some tops droop completely down and bottom fan leaves pointing down , this is were I keep getting stuck if I don’t water these thing will be willed when I get home . First set of pictures Sunday
To water or not to water
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Second set Monday morning
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XxCashedxOutxX

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So after watering Saturday evening, the girls were happy last night . This morning already had some tops droop completely down and bottom fan leaves pointing down , this is were I keep getting stuck if I don’t water these thing will be willed when I get home . First set of pictures Sunday
To water or not to water
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Second set Monday morning
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Pick up the bucket if it feels even a little bit heavy do not water. I think she is over watered.
 

Sgt Peppercorn

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As stated earlier cloth pots would solve/prevent the issue,but we are already here so, look at the depth of your five gallon pots. It makes sense that you need to water as often as you think you need to. I am betting that the bottom 5 or 6 inches of your soils stays wet all of the time. Regardless of when you are watering. The tap root will make it right to the bottom of the containers and if it's always wet it cannot breathe. You can try using a small drill and drill some holes about 3 inches from the bottom of your 5 gallon containers - don't worry about roots growing through the holes. The air will prevent them from growing through just like when in fabric pots. TrainWreck likes to grow big and tall and has an appetite for water which puts you in a catch 22 with those deep pots. She needs water but theres too much sitting in the soil at the bottom. Once you have drilled those holes water until water is draining from them. Wait until your girls look thirsty - for the first couple of waterings wait until they look really thirsty. Then water again until it drains from the holes you drilled in the pots. Water/drain - dry - repeat. Your girls look very nice btw.
 

Beanstalks

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Pick up the bucket if it feels even a little bit heavy do not water. I think she is over watered.
I think I figured it out , I changed my water method from a sprayer and solo cup , I just realized the water is just draining right out almost a half a cup of run off, I used my garden mister and gave it the same amount but a 1/4 cups of run off this time , I believe me technique is causing my issues
As stated earlier cloth pots would solve/prevent the issue,but we are already here so, look at the depth of your five gallon pots. It makes sense that you need to water as often as you think you need to. I am betting that the bottom 5 or 6 inches of your soils stays wet all of the time. Regardless of when you are watering. The tap root will make it right to the bottom of the containers and if it's always wet it cannot breathe. You can try using a small drill and drill some holes about 3 inches from the bottom of your 5 gallon containers - don't worry about roots growing through the holes. The air will prevent them from growing through just like when in fabric pots. TrainWreck likes to grow big and tall and has an appetite for water which puts you in a catch 22 with those deep pots. She needs water but theres too much sitting in the soil at the bottom. Once you have drilled those holes water until water is draining from them. Wait until your girls look thirsty - for the first couple of waterings wait until they look really thirsty. Then water again until it drains from the holes you drilled in the pots. Water/drain - dry - repeat. Your girls look very nice btw.
added some drain holes , started watering with my garden mister aswell
 

Clumpyoyster

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I think I figured it out , I changed my water method from a sprayer and solo cup , I just realized the water is just draining right out almost a half a cup of run off, I used my garden mister and gave it the same amount but a 1/4 cups of run off this time , I believe me technique is causing my issues

added some drain holes , started watering with my garden mister aswell
You will learn a lot from your first grow and you have a lot to learn. Good luck
 

Sgt Peppercorn

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You'll get a handle on it. It's a lot harder to maintain a good wet/dry cycle the taller your pot is. Getting your water sched correct is a big part of success at the end of your grow. Once you dial it in the only other thing you'll have to manage other than feeding is - patience lol. Keep posting pics regularly so we can follow along!
 

Beanstalks

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Forgive me for pointing you in a totally opposite direction as the others, i feel you should read up horticulture studies/books ect on how to take care of soil when using organic amendments.

You don't want run-off or a heavy wet cycle & with well rooted containers you don't want a heavy dry cycle, might take you a run or two to get it all dialed in.

If they perk up after a watering, take a picture of the bottom fan leaves or remember what they look like, those same fan leaves will start to point down as the soil hits the dry side again.

If your feeding pH'ed solubles or starting with a fresh transplant, then yeah, you can let it dry up a bit more.

Finished the book thanks for the suggestion, my garden will be teaming with microbes this year!
 
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