DRYING OUT SOIL BEFORE HARVEST TO IMPROVE POTENCY THOUGHTS ?

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claypipe69

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YEP That s right what do you think about drying out soil before harvesting???? Back in the day in the early 70`s I was taught by old school outdoor growers that the best strength was achieved by Drying out the root ball Thus stressing the plant causing it to send everything it had left to protect the heads.. Its not about a quick curing its about concertinaing any go juice. I see people talking about boiling water, does this work on the same concept of starving the plant as half digging the plant out or? Anybody know what is the best?
 
Gaz29

Gaz29

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I have poured boiling water in to (dirt) the roots ,then stuck plant in darkness for a few days,but no noticeable difference so it was the only time i tried boiling water but I still use darkness the last few days before I chop. Happy growing
Gaz
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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The boiling water thing is supposed to stop the plant from up taking and start to cure while still in the pot. It supposedly saves about a week of curing time. RM3 the self proclaimed guru has promoted this. He never said it increases potency though.

Problem is it would take that long to dry out so it doesn't help anything. So I cut my plants when they are truly done and hang them to dry. And by the time a boiled plant is in the drier I am on to the next curing stage already.

As far as drying out the medium. I do it to speed up drying as stated above but I will say I have seen extra frost from drought stressed plants but not any perceived potency increase. I think a well cared for plant that is happy and healthy to the end is usually the most potent one.
 
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bryan oconner

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ok if you allowed to hold so much finished fruit . a lot of people let the soil dry out 100 % and the fruit will dry then place a bag over the plant to prevent over dry .. this is a plant and not finished weight . and can be harvested later to prevent over weight . so will it taste better or be stronger ? i dont think so . will is smell more hell yes ! have to be smart with cherry tomato plants hate to be over you weight limits .
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Imo harvesting after watering makes for quite wet buds, letting the soil dry some before harvest is much better for the drying period.

Boiling water throught the root zone was to severe the plant from nutrients and root absorbtion, kinda like a flush would.

If your new then do it by the book and dry buds well before curing, if your not the grow room is your oyster, play about till your hearts content. Id even recomend new growers skip the cure and just well dry their buds over two weeks.
 
vostok

vostok

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bryan oconner said:
dont that sound evil . poring boiling water into roots of a living plant to kill the root zone . you care for the plant so long 3 or 6 months you look at it admire and one day torture it . lol i know its just a plant its just wrong to me i just get attached to things call me crazy
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Anthropomorphism its called I get that too

grow ur plants like they are pets

is the best way
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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"Thus stressing the plant causing it to send everything it had left to protect the heads."

at maturity that plant gives two shits about the heads man, its all about protecting the flower, to ensure seed production to the plant.
In the 70's jorge cervantes thought he could influence a seeds' sex of a matured seed outside of a plant, and some thought /still think they can change genetic males to genetic females with lights, heat, led, prayers etc. gurus way back thought they could just poke a stalk to make it more potent, guess they never thought about feeding it properly, or ordering different genetics from, attitude lol
Nothing protects the heads
the heads protect the flower, they "form a protective layer against offensive insects, preventing them from reaching the surface of the plant. The chemicals in the trichomes make cannabis less palatable to hungry animals and can inhibit the growth of some types of fungus. The resin also helps to insulate the plant from high wind and low humidity, and acts as a natural ‘sun-screen’ in protecting against UV-B light rays."
 
green217

green217

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chemphlegm said:
"Thus stressing the plant causing it to send everything it had left to protect the heads."

at maturity that plant gives two shits about the heads man, its all about protecting the flower, to ensure seed production to the plant.
In the 70's jorge cervantes thought he could influence a seeds' sex of a matured seed outside of a plant, and some thought /still think they can change genetic males to genetic females with lights, heat, led, prayers etc. gurus way back thought they could just poke a stalk to make it more potent, guess they never thought about feeding it properly, or ordering different genetics from, attitude lol
Nothing protects the heads
the heads protect the flower, they "form a protective layer against offensive insects, preventing them from reaching the surface of the plant. The chemicals in the trichomes make cannabis less palatable to hungry animals and can inhibit the growth of some types of fungus. The resin also helps to insulate the plant from high wind and low humidity, and acts as a natural ‘sun-screen’ in protecting against UV-B light rays."
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I've pondered the male/female ratio thing in my head lately. I haven't researched yet, but common sense is telling me that the sex is predetermined before I plant it.

As far as increasing potency goes, I have a "little" faith in the dark period at the end of flowering. I also dry out plant before cutting, but as a few others stated, I do it for quicker drying. I can dry my bud and with no cure have some dank tasting bud. Some strains are better than others, so I am inclined to believe it's genetics that give you flavor/potency. curing does give you a smoother smoke and increases smell ime
 
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chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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I once stored a whole pack of reg seeds in a shoe in my closet. it had five reg beans in it. All were females when I found it 3 years later. I was sure I found the secret. I have one more year to go to be sure, then gotta try stinky shoes compared to new, winter boots to summer slippers, and so on, but I'm on to something for sure.....o_O:P
 
flodas

flodas

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When im ready to cut it i whant as mutch water in the plant as possible. My filosofi is to dry them as slow as you can to avoid the hay smell and get a larger span for the curing phase.
But its always a balance betwen mold and drying / curing when u have moist involved . Amen !
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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green217 said:
I've pondered the male/female ratio thing in my head lately. I haven't researched yet, but common sense is telling me that the sex is predetermined before I plant it.

As far as increasing potency goes, I have a "little" faith in the dark period at the end of flowering. I also dry out plant before cutting, but as a few others stated, I do it for quicker drying. I can dry my bud and with no cure have some dank tasting bud. Some strains are better than others, so I am inclined to believe it's genetics that give you flavor/potency. curing does give you a smoother smoke and increases smell ime
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I agree. Stress makes plants frostier but not always more potent or better. Healthy plants make more cannabanoids. And healthy plants with great genetics are better.


And I agree about the seeds sex too. Predetermined in my opinion.
 
green217

green217

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flodas said:
When im ready to cut it i whant as mutch water in the plant as possible. My filosofi is to dry them as slow as you can to avoid the hay smell and get a larger span for the curing phase.
But its always a balance betwen mold and drying / curing when u have moist involved . Amen !
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your climate is probably dry then. I can leave a plant drying for weeks in outside air. We have a high RH here
 
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