Dual Areoponic Cabinet, Ceramic Metal Halide

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cruzer101

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8-8-09

Temps 82 res 60°°
PPMs 370
PH 5.4

Temps are cooler due to the weather. Plants used 120 ppm but not much water. I added 20ml big bloom and 15ml Tiger bloom Brought the res to 490 ppms then Ph to 5.6

Looks like its off to the races. They have stretched a couple inches just last night. The reflector is 24" high.

Heres a few shots i took before the light went on.

















Then, Bam!







I think the clones will do much better here.
Today I ran an air line from the pump in cab b along with the power cord for the pump back in here.

Now I got the bubbler on the cycle timer.





I know, they look sad.
Give them a few more days.







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cruzer101

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Earl said:
Is it getting pretty crowded in the main chamber ?
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Yes,

I am not worried about the width as much as the height of the TW.
With no pruning and no training the WW is a much better size for this.

They are at the height I wanted after stretch right now.
If the TW stops stretching in about 4 inches I will still be ok.
But any more then that and I will have to do something.

We will see in a week or so.

Any suggestions as to how to keep the roots stable. When I go to train them
the whole plants leans over. I don't want a screen in case I get clogged up
I would need to remove it.

I remember reading a journal where a guy used dowels and chains.

Here you can see where I took some large fan leaf.
The cigarette is for size comparison.




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cruzer101

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tahoe58 said:
U2 been a part of my life for a long time ... man many memories ...went and saw them in concert in 97 (I think), it was a very special event. And driving over Monida Pass, nuthin on the radio ...its like 630am driving all night up over the crest of the horizon, the sun bursts into view, the radio became ultraclear and U2 was playing that song, and the radio signal faded out after the song was finished. The hair on my forearms still stands up evcen thinking about it. Good luck with ur grow .... I'll be hanging, always something to learn everywhere. Walk On!!~~ :weed:
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Wow, that must have been a trip.

Thanks for sharing
 
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cruzer101

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8-8-09

Temps 88 res 74°
PPMs 520
PH 5.4

They used about a gallon and a half of water but the nute level didn't change much.
I added 1 gallon with 900 PPM flower nutes. Brought the res to 700PPM. Ph to 5.8
Bent the two tall pants to opposite corners.

Bad news on the move of the bubbler. I screwed up. after the move and hooking up the
air pump I didn't check it. Lost bubbles and clones.

Its a bummer yes but they were starting to root so now I know how to do it.





One casualty over here in the rooter cubes.








I think I can save three.
Here is one that is not coming back.
Check it out though, you can see it was rooting so the system will work! I just need to grab a couple more.









Super macro shots with this Power shot









Cool huh, I think they look like teeth.
Here is a good candidate, The collar fits fine.









So, Back in business.











I tied two down and moved the CFL's to the back then the CMH up to cover more of the area.

I have to start training, I am running out of height already.


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MyGTO2007

MyGTO2007

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cruzer101 said:
8-8-09

Temps 88 res 74°
PPMs 520
PH 5.4

They used about a gallon and a half of water but the nute level didn't change much.
I added 1 gallon with 900 PPM flower nutes. Brought the res to 700PPM. Ph to 5.8
Bent the two tall pants to opposite corners.

Bad news on the move of the bubbler. I screwed up. after the move and hooking up the
air pump I didn't check it. Lost bubbles and clones.

Its a bummer yes but they were starting to root so now I know how to do it.





One casualty over here in the rooter cubes.








I think I can save three.
Here is one that is not coming back.
Check it out though, you can see it was rooting so the system will work! I just need to grab a couple more.









Super macro shots with this Power shot









Cool huh, I think they look like teeth.
Here is a good candidate, The collar fits fine.









So, Back in business.











I tied two down and moved the CFL's to the back then the CMH up to cover more of the area.

I have to start training, I am running out of height already.


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BADASS SHIT DUDE!!!!
And yep it will work.....Next time i would split the stem bout 1/2 in or so...........
 
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cruzer101

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MyGTO2007 said:
BADASS SHIT DUDE!!!!
And yep it will work.....Next time i would split the stem bout 1/2 in or so...........
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Dam, I forgot.

Thanks for reminding me.
I am going to go split the cuttings I took last night, I want them to do the nasty like yours.

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cruzer101

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wyteberrywidow said:
Sorry to here about the clones And they were starting to root.Well atleast you know your bubbler works for cloning like u said..
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Thanks man.

Yea, Live and learn.
I really should have caught that though. The air line is running about 4 times as far as what it was.
Either there is a leak or I lost pressure because of the distance. I remember listening and hearing bubbles,
I just didn't look to see how many there actually were.

Note to self. Don't be such an idiot.

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cruzer101

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8-10-09

Temps 89 res 68°
PPMs 620
PH 5.4

They used a gallon again but I didn't top off this time. Res change tomorrow so they can just us up what they have.

I made a couple bubbler's today I found out that pump will only run 2 of them. That fourth valve doesn't have much pressure. I decided to go aero in the veg area. I was thinking bubbler.

I see I have eight clones that rooted so far.
Three in the bubbler, the rest rooter cubes.
I'm testing out a second bubbler tonight. I will cut 6 more tomorrow.

No pics, batteries are dead.
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tahoe58

tahoe58

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get some more batteries ... man ... we need pics ! lol!!

Too bad for them clones ... those teeth do look cool. So like you said ... it will work. And the splitting of the stems .... great info .... many thanks for your updates ... Walk on!!~~~
 
TONYJEJO

TONYJEJO

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hey! why don't u use for flowering red spectrum man!? sylvania HPS or sunmaster HPS is the real deal! ceramic metal halide is mybe good for vegging! but for flowering shore isn't!
i saw the scale of cmh! but anyway i think that totaly red spectrum light would be better 4 biger buds! peace!
 
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cruzer101

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tahoe58 said:
get some more batteries ... man ... we need pics ! lol!! ... Walk on!!~~~
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Battries are fully charged and ready for action sir.
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potpimp said:
Man that sucks about your clones; I feel your pain. But like you said, live and learn.
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I was upset at first, then I saw the roots. Yahoo!
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TONYJEJO said:
hey! why don't u use for flowering red spectrum man!? sylvania HPS or sunmaster HPS is the real deal! ceramic metal halide is mybe good for vegging! but for flowering shore isn't!
i saw the scale of cmh! but anyway i think that totaly red spectrum light would be better 4 biger buds! peace!
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Welcome to the grow Tony. I have used sun master and still have a HPS bulb. I like trying new things.
This CMH looks like it will do the job but there is only one way to find out. Once I get up and running I
plan on comparing them so stick around, You will be able to see the difference yourself. I may be
wrong but if I am then I saved my buds here at RUI the cost of trying it themselves.
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tom__420 said:
I am pretty sure that CMH will perform quite well there tony. Have you ever used CMH?
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Thanks man. If you like how it performs I believe there is a 250w version.
Personally I think you are the king of 250w grows.

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tom__420

tom__420

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cruzer101 said:
Thanks man. If you like how it performs I believe there is a 250w version.
Personally I think you are the king of 250w grows.

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Thanks for the kinds word man :blsmoke:
I am going to getting a digital 400 watt and cool tube soon so I will have to see how well I do with more wattage.
As for the CMH, I believe that they only work on magentic right? It would be awesome if they worked for digital also
 
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cruzer101

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tom__420 said:
Thanks for the kinds word man :blsmoke:
I am going to getting a digital 400 watt and cool tube soon so I will have to see how well I do with more wattage.
As for the CMH, I believe that they only work on magentic right? It would be awesome if they worked for digital also
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Well thats what manufacture says to use for this Phillips bulb but there are several manufactures of bulbs. Ya know for industrial purposes this is a nice color light. Who knows. They may make one that runs on digital.

I have seen a 600w that combines the two and runs on digital ballast.
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cruzer101

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8-11-09

Temps 87 res 72°
PPMs 520
PH 5.2

I adjusted Ph to 5.7
I will let it go one more day before res change. Nute level is where I want it.
They have responded nicely to the training. Train Wreck is a very vigorous strain.
One of the the white widow popped its head out of the canopy today.
Looks like a small tree. lol

I took some more fan leaf off, check out the size of this one.



HUGE! That sucker is like a foot tall.


Here are some shots of how I trained them.













Time to get a good look at the clones.
The three in the front row have little nubs
These survived my screw up. The three in the back I just cut.




Clones in the rooter cubes came along as expected about 75% rooted.








Looks like I am getting better results with the rooter cubes so far.





This next one I didnt see any roots from outside the cube and I took a look inside and found a little rootball.









So now we got Eight rooted and two that still might. One of those is that tiny one.

With a little more practice with the bubblers I should be able to get the same or better results.
I can already get them to dance...

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tahoe58

tahoe58

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that's fukin awesome ... you know ... for a gardner, a gardner of any ilk .... these plants are so incredibly gorgeous .... the males too ... I have 4 males over at a friends house outdoors, and they are spectacular .... and of course fully developed females ... wow ... beautiful ... great update man!! Thanks. Walk on!!~~~~~ :eyesmoke:
cruzer101 said:
8-11-09

Temps 87 res 72°
PPMs 520
PH 5.2

I adjusted Ph to 5.7
I will let it go one more day before res change. Nute level is where I want it.
They have responded nicely to the training. Train Wreck is a very vigorous strain.
One of the the white widow popped its head out of the canopy today.
Looks like a small tree. lol

I took some more fan leaf off, check out the size of this one.



HUGE! That sucker is like a foot tall.
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