Dual Areoponic Cabinet, Ceramic Metal Halide

cruzer101

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Do those ceramic metal halide bulbs work with 400 watt digital ballasts or only magnetic ballasts? Thanks man
Hey Tom, Glad to see ya made it.
Manufacture says magnetic, From what I understand they will fire on a digital but not work for long.
I have seen a 600w dual bulb from another manufacture that runs on a digital. You thinking about moving up?

it seems like a calm environment for the babies.
Yes, it is. the right temp, a slight breeze and they like classic rock.


heres my buck were do i put it lol
Quarters in the slot, you know where it is. :hump:
 

cruzer101

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7-21-09

Temps 80/68°
ph up to 6.2 back to 5.8
ppm down to 330

I am starting to see more spacing between nodes then I want on the trainwreck.



I moved the light up for the shot. I been keeping it about 4 in away. Maybe time to switch lights.
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Earl

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I just saw the pictures of the outdoor grow.

We've been smokin alot the last few days,
trying all of these samples,
and I'm kinda in a fog.

We had:
•Widow Cindy, grown with Pure Blend Pro (Best flavor)
•Stinky Widowcindy grown with Advanced Nutrients(best flavor WC)
•Stinky Widowcindy grown with Fox Farm(Good buzz, above Honorable Mention)
•Stinky Widowcindy grown with Ionic (Best bag appeal WC)
•NorthernBerry grown with Ionic (Non entry)
•ChemoCindy grown with AN (non entry, just smokin)
•Thai Cross (non entry)
• Grinder Keif (MMmmm)



Look for your sample soon.
 

cruzer101

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Hey Earl,

I guess you are in a fog. I sent you a sample a couple weeks ago along with the nute mix I used. GH grow and FF flower

Hey Cruzer the box got here today.

Very nice job.
I am stoned.

I got 3.5 grams

I'll get you a sample of the AN nute grown SWC.
It should be ready in about a month.
Thanks for growing this out and keeping the records.
I'll post the results as they come in.
 
Welcome Widow,

You and me both. I was looking at high power leds and ended up with this.
High power led?I was looking into that but found the price too much so I will just stick with my 400 hps until I make adjustments to get the 1000 watt hps.can't wait to see how they look when you flip.I'm curious to see how mh yeilds to hps.
 

cruzer101

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Dam, a bit of a setback today.

I moved the water jets so they just hit the lower portion of the roots and crashed out.
12 hours later I check them and they are drooping. I have to assume its not enough water.
I moved the jets down because I thought the rooter cubes were a little too moist and it
may cause problems at the base of the stock.

I changed it back. I sure they will pull through but I think I killed some roots.
Maybe the T5 just is not enough to keep the rooter cubes at the right moisture level.
I am switching to the CMH now not only for the penetration power but to keep the tops
of the cubes a little dryer. I am going to get larger CFL's today too.

Trial and error, thats how I learn.
I don't know why but I need to do something myself before I really believe it.
 

cruzer101

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High power led?I was looking into that but found the price too much so I will just stick with my 400 hps until I make adjustments to get the 1000 watt hps.can't wait to see how they look when you flip.I'm curious to see how mh yeilds to hps.
Same here. For what I believe would get a decent crop I would need to spend like $800 and that is just to much.

Then I stumbled across this new Ceramic Metal Halide bulb that runs off a hps ballast. I was amazed at the spectrum it covers.
I figured what the hell, just bombard them with the whole spectrum and they can use what they need. So basically this bulb
covers the spectrum of a HPS as well as a MH. On top of that it covers the UV spectrum. Its rated at 4000k

Well the ad says it does. We will see.

Thanks for the imput.
 
Yeah I'm kind of the same way.people can tell me but I have to witness it first hand before I change up.but that's how u learn.good luck
 

cruzer101

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Thanks guys,

This will be the first grow and I am starting from seed.
The rest of the grows will all be clones and there will be no rooter cube to deal with.

Also I am not sure of the positioning of the bulb. I plan on screening them at about 1 foot.
In the past I ran the screen up on the sides like a stadium and had the light horizontally
but from front to back. I believe I used more of the available light that way.

Another idea I have is to hang it vertically and screen a coliseum shape but you got to start somewhere.
 

cruzer101

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7-22-09

Temps 82 res 60
Ph 5.7
ppms 320

Outdoor temps dropped 10° so the res temp dropped 8°
Adjusted the thermostat to #2

I must have lowered the Ph more then I thought yesterday because it was at 5.7
I assume they are still recovering when I looked at the roots today the upper part
of them was a darker color the the lower.

Last night I removed the sunblaze T5's and fired up the CMH. Then changed the small CFL's
to larger ones. Now I have four 26 watt at 2700K CFL's along with the 400w at 4000k.
Every plant is getting at least 2000 lumen's at this height.

After 8 hours I didn't notice any difference in temps with more wattage but the tops of the
rooter cubes are a bit dryer so that worked good.

They still have a bit of a droop. My watering cycle is at 5 min on and 30 min off. That was
working fine before I messed with it so I will keep it there for now and see what happens.

WW



TW








Funny thing about the lighting, in the picture it looks like less light. Believe me it's not.

Still the drooping though. Any suggestions?
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Good looking set up there with the cooltube and everything.What fan are u using to exhaust it?.The plants in the corner look like they are leaning for the mh light.
 

cruzer101

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Hey Widow,

I have a 4" duct fan attached to the left side of the tube. I cut the housing back a couple inches
so its hard to see but it is pushing about 110 CFM.

Yea, I noticed the gals on the outside were leaning toward the CMH. I picked up larger CFL's and
got them in now. I figured this would happen while small. I hope once they are a few inches larger
and I can raise the light the mylar will reflect more light and they will straighten up some.

I am more concerned with the drooping of the TW right now. I really don't think it is a light issue.
Maybe the nutrients are too cold/low? I dont know.

Cool, Thanks for the input.
 

cutman

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Give it some time, bet they will perk up, with the 400 lite up, a little stressed, They look good for what i can see. In there growth it seems faster. So there a plus there. Im harvesting soon then im changing over. Think the Thai is going to take longer.
 

cruzer101

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Good input guys,

No Widow, no salt buildup. Believe me I know what that looks like. I had a mountain once.

Give it some time, bet they will perk up, with the 400 lite up, a little stressed,
Yea, Thats probably it. I guess I am being anal about this first time around. I just got back from the hydro store with some Cal Mag. I gave the res about half whats recommended. 15 ml brought the ppms up to 390 Figured it couldn't hurt. Then I rotated them and increased the water on time from 5 min to 10 min.

Maybe I should have titled it "Dual analponics grow" lol.
I guess I will just burn one and chill.

Oh yea, That Tahi will take longer but you got a nice harvest there Cutman.

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cutman

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thanks cruz. just can get better after all the trile and errors. but thanks. you kinda sound like me when we first started. worried about this worrie about that, you done your job now lets watch them grow up to gather. i dont know shit about what your doing so we are learning together. just that you get to do it first lol. that way when its my turn youll have all the bugs worked out im sure, witch will make it easyer for me. and yes i would like your help on the sig...
 
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