Dual Areoponic Cabinet, Ceramic Metal Halide

cruzer101 · Mar 9, 2010

Do like Clinton did... Don"t inhale. LOL

If your a player you know you dont play drunk right? Well this is the same thing bro. You want to put your money in with the best hand but those duces look real good when your stoned. Na, I would tell her I will take a raincheck. Then when your done gambling ask her for a toke. Who knows, she may follow you home.

Mr. Mojo Risin' · Mar 9, 2010

Not inhaling would be way too wasteful. I guess I just have to show a little self control. when I dont smoke I notice everything at the table...when I do smoke I notice the carpet pattern. That super system is a classic but the problem is everyones read it.

mikegreenthumb · Mar 9, 2010

cruzer101 said:
Do like Clinton did... Don"t inhale. LOL

If your a player you know you dont play drunk right? Well this is the same thing bro. You want to put your money in with the best hand but those duces look real good when your stoned. Na, I would tell her I will take a raincheck. Then when your done gambling ask her for a toke. Who knows, she may follow you home.

i agree money over bitches basically but truth be told it looks like shes a better poker player than you knows that you cant play high and she can i do it to my boys with madden all the time i can smoke and think they cant lol niggas know im doin too and yet we still smoke and play and bet the call of maryjane is strong and when its a threesome i.e a pretty girl to smoke with you got no chance your gonna walk in determined not to smoke she bats those eyes perks up the chest waves the bag and its a wrap especially when they say " i cant roll please do it for me"

cutman · Mar 10, 2010

hey dude it time for the lady to go out side . put 4 out today. 2 white wodows and 1 northern lights and i lemon skunk. wonder how they will do in this texas heat. it gets perrty hot in the summer. but will see. potesed a couple pic. hey have 2 white widow males, im thinking of takes these and putting it with the mother what do you think . get my own seed. even mixes it with the nothern lights. hmmmm might be cool huh

cruzer101 · Mar 12, 2010

mikegreenthumb said:
i agree money over bitches basically but truth be told it looks like shes a better poker player than you knows that you cant play high and she can i do it to my boys with madden all the time i can smoke and think they cant lol niggas know im doin too and yet we still smoke and play and bet the call of maryjane is strong and when its a threesome i.e a pretty girl to smoke with you got no chance your gonna walk in determined not to smoke she bats those eyes perks up the chest waves the bag and its a wrap especially when they say " i cant roll please do it for me"

Did you get that Mojo?
Yea Mike, sounds like you been around the block.

cutman said:
hey dude it time for the lady to go out side . put 4 out today. 2 white wodows and 1 northern lights and i lemon skunk. wonder how they will do in this texas heat. it gets perrty hot in the summer. but will see. potesed a couple pic. hey have 2 white widow males, im thinking of takes these and putting it with the mother what do you think . get my own seed. even mixes it with the nothern lights. hmmmm might be cool huh

Hum, It might be best to take a plastic bag and cover one pollen branch and shake the pollen off into the bag. Then cover one bud with the bag, put a rubber band on it and shake it. let it sit there over night then take it off. That way you pollinate one bud instead of all of them. You want to keep this female separate from the others when you do this but after you can put her back with the others.

cruzer101 · Mar 12, 2010

Temps 78 res 68°
PMS 160 PH 5.7

OK, These poor little girls look like they may survive. Well most of them anyway.
Its been a week or so of flushing, Yesterday swapped out the r/o water and added a bit of nutes and Nitrozime to put ppms at 180. I figure I will let them go for a couple days then up the strength to 300 ppm.

I got rid of the second res I had on this shelf and plumbed it to the lower res. Now I got room for clones.

I finally got my new res installed. I went with a 10 gallon tub, installed the chiller and now I run both flower areas off the same res. The best part of the deal is now I got a drain under the tub instead of the side. It drains almost all the water and makes it much easier to change out.

I still have to mount the electrical.
Im not sure if I want to run it all out the back and set something up outside the cab or just mount it to the wall.

The chiller is now heating the water, It does both heat and cool. Dam thing makes more noise then I thought it would though.

mikegreenthumb · Mar 12, 2010

cutman said:
hey dude it time for the lady to go out side . put 4 out today. 2 white wodows and 1 northern lights and i lemon skunk. wonder how they will do in this texas heat. it gets perrty hot in the summer. but will see. potesed a couple pic. hey have 2 white widow males, im thinking of takes these and putting it with the mother what do you think . get my own seed. even mixes it with the nothern lights. hmmmm might be cool huh

i dunno if your climate is anything like mine but if you put e out now they will be triggered to flower they wont see june jul the hottest months unless you reveg em

cruzer101 · Mar 12, 2010

Thats a good point Mike, I agree its a bit early for outside.

cruzer101 · Mar 12, 2010

Well, I got a smoke report.
The last grow has cured for a month now and I tried it.

Comparing the three grows of trainwreck.
The flower in floro had the most trichs, best stone and best taste.
The flower in Metal Halide came in a close second but more volume.
I am sorry to say the flower in HPS had twice the volume but half the quality. Granted I had a little mildew but not that much on this grow. What the hell am I gonna do with all this mediocre bud.

I am starting this next grow with the Ceramic Metal Halide. I will veg and flower the first 4 or 6 weeks then switch to the agrosun. See if I can get the trichome production then bulk up with HPS.

By the way, I got six afghan Kush clones to replace the blueberry. Im gonna make a mother plant out of one that survived so I can keep the strain.

Integra21 · Mar 12, 2010

The lack of quality and frostyness was probly the fault of the sprays and mildew. I consider the frostiness of my girls to compare with the best of them using my agro. Didnt you cut that run early too? That makes a huge difference on the high and total sticky goodness. Good to see the little ones are pulling threw.

tom__420 · Mar 12, 2010

I would get those sickly looking plants in a higher ppm mix
I start seeds out in 250 ppm nutes w/o problems
I would try upping your nutes to around 500 ppm I think the plants would grow much happier
The ppm of my tap water is higher than your nute mix right now lol
Would that chiller fit to the right of that new 10 gallon rez?
If it were inside the cab that might block out some of the noise its generating

BquamB · Mar 12, 2010

:O Jaw dropped reading through this, Amazing. I love the cabinet design, they're huge!

mikegreenthumb · Mar 12, 2010

cruzer101 said:
Well, I got a smoke report.
The last grow has cured for a month now and I tried it.

Comparing the three grows of trainwreck.
The flower in floro had the most trichs, best stone and best taste.
The flower in Metal Halide came in a close second but more volume.
I am sorry to say the flower in HPS had twice the volume but half the quality. Granted I had a little mildew but not that much on this grow. What the hell am I gonna do with all this mediocre bud.

I am starting this next grow with the Ceramic Metal Halide. I will veg and flower the first 4 or 6 weeks then switch to the agrosun. See if I can get the trichome production then bulk up with HPS.

By the way, I got six afghan Kush clones to replace the blueberry. Im gonna make a mother plant out of one that survived so I can keep the strain.

what youll wanna do is flower for first six on hps to make it bulk when it wants to bulk then during last 2 weeks switch to halide source:jorge cervantes
personally i go with both in my flower room for a full spectrum

mikegreenthumb · Mar 12, 2010

Integra21 said:
The lack of quality and frostyness was probly the fault of the sprays and mildew. I consider the frostiness of my girls to compare with the best of them using my agro. Didnt you cut that run early too? That makes a huge difference on the high and total sticky goodness. Good to see the little ones are pulling threw.

too many people put there faith in hps not knowing why they became so popular in first place the reason why is commercial growers loved em cause they made there plants grow bulkier not better quality hps has no uvb your plants make thc as a natural sun screen of sorts they dont produce this extra "sunscreen" unless exposed to uvb= metal halide floro's

Integra21 · Mar 12, 2010

mikegreenthumb said:
too many people put there faith in hps not knowing why they became so popular in first place the reason why is commercial growers loved em cause they made there plants grow bulkier not better quality hps has no uvb your plants make thc as a natural sun screen of sorts they dont produce this extra "sunscreen" unless exposed to uvb= metal halide floro's

Thats why I always use enhanced spectrum bulbs with the added blue and higher red and violet than regular hps. I will be trying out a new bulb next run which is a pulse start metal halide that are supposed to have a really good uv output and color spectrum. They come in pretty much all temperature ranges, planning on using the 3k for flower except will be using the 10k for the last 2 weeks.

DoeEyed · Mar 12, 2010

Glad to see your little ones are picking up - the new growth looks good, nice save!

cruzer101 · Mar 13, 2010

Integra21 said:
The lack of quality and frostyness was probly the fault of the sprays and mildew. I consider the frostiness of my girls to compare with the best of them using my agro. Didnt you cut that run early too? That makes a huge difference on the high and total sticky goodness. Good to see the little ones are pulling threw.

Yes thats true. All those things considered, the end result is the end result.
Im not trashing the bulb, Im just reporting my findings.

tom__420 said:
I would get those sickly looking plants in a higher ppm mix
I start seeds out in 250 ppm nutes w/o problems
I would try upping your nutes to around 500 ppm I think the plants would grow much happier
The ppm of my tap water is higher than your nute mix right now lol
Would that chiller fit to the right of that new 10 gallon rez?
If it were inside the cab that might block out some of the noise its generating

No kidding man, My tap is about 350ppm. Thats why I haul the bottles.
I needed flush out those old nutes, I'm slowly bringing it up to 600
Now I got the new clones on the same res and wanna make sure they are cool with it too. That chiller would fit inside the cab but it needs more space. That compresser I had in there was a sealed system. This needs air movement. Not all of these will heat and cool. Maybe the noise is the heater and the chiller will be quieter. I dont know.

BquamB said:
:O Jaw dropped reading through this, Amazing. I love the cabinet design, they're huge!

Thanks for stoppin by. Yea, I like them too. Thinking about a third actually.

mikegreenthumb said:
what youll wanna do is flower for first six on hps to make it bulk when it wants to bulk then during last 2 weeks switch to halide source:jorge cervantes
personally i go with both in my flower room for a full spectrum

No shit. I got it backwards then eh?
Well Im gonna veg with it for now and check that out.
Thanks.

DoeEyed said:
Glad to see your little ones are picking up - the new growth looks good, nice save!

Just about out of the woods. Now we want to see some nodes. Thanks!

cruzer101 · Mar 13, 2010

Temps 82 res 68°
290 PPM PH 5.9

I added a bit more nutes and switched to 3 inch pots with hydroton. The new clones were rooted in rockwool so I had to do something and I did both tubs so I can move the plants if need be. I went and got a couple more tubs and just used the lids for now. Ill keep the old ones for future grows. Heres some shots of the Afgahn Kush. The original AK. Man these stink already.

Here is where I got those heaters now, Two of those ceramic and I found screw in receptacles I will use for fans while the heaters are on. I found some black screen I used above the patio last year folded it up and put it on the bottom. It ant gonna stop spidermites but it may slow them down.

The new kids on the block.

I paid $12 each including tax from a local club.
I used to have to go to Oakland, well an hours drive to get them and paid $15 plus tax. This is awesome all these despensaries opening up around here.

Heres the floro cab now with 3 in pots. Five rhinos and one small Blueberry.

The larger Blueberry Im gonna try and make a mum down here in dirt. I got some black gold soil 05-00-00 for her.

She looks kinda lonely down here.

mikegreenthumb · Mar 13, 2010

Integra21 said:
Thats why I always use enhanced spectrum bulbs with the added blue and higher red and violet than regular hps. I will be trying out a new bulb next run which is a pulse start metal halide that are supposed to have a really good uv output and color spectrum. They come in pretty much all temperature ranges, planning on using the 3k for flower except will be using the 10k for the last 2 weeks.

i have two pulse start halide's n love how they preform

mikegreenthumb · Mar 13, 2010

i dunno too much bout hydro but they look over watered and too low nutes you might wanna up those nutes bout double and water less i dunno how to do that with hydro but i figure you do

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