Dudes, is my girl doomed?

Bernie420

Bernie420

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Slyclyde1991 said:
Shes been yellowing and loosing leaves for awhile now, I think I vegged her too long, almost 3 months, in soil, I've given her some doses of nutes in veg she was doing great, ever since flower, on week 4 now, shes been dying, I flushed her and gave her a good dose of Heavy Sixteen's Fire, that didnt help, I read maybe 15-5-15 cal mag will help? Idk if there is any help left for this girl man, sucks because she smells amazing and is so frosty already! Any help appreciated!
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You starved this plant, aint nothing you can do to bring it back ists fucked...suggest just give it the 275 ppms and add mag to it a few times then just let it alone till you can chop it and get some smoke to try out.

Totally under fed and nitrogen deficient...dont go adding nitrogen now... you aint fixing it.

Id be looking for spidermites daily.
 
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Slyclyde1991

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Doug Dawson said:
Slow release fertilizer and top dressing coco? It sounds like you are treating it like soil. I could be wrong but it seems like that is just asking for trouble. Coco should be fed daily to runoff and as the need goes up more than once a day.
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I mix coco up into a kind of super soil I guess you would call it, with perlite, organic slow release dry amendments like all purpose 444, bat guano and worm castings and small amounts of some other organic dry nutes I cant think of off the top of my head, usually a week or so before flower I will top dress with some more flower friendly dry amendments and water in. I've done 3 runs so far like that with 3-4 plants per run and I never had any issues, always greater than expected harvests, that's what my 3 younger autos are in, the sick one in question however, is in happy frog & ocean soil, I know I vegged her for way too long and depleted the soil. In the past I've had problems with nute lockout in soil so I was overly cautious with not overfeeding, which led to this poor starving dying girl.
 
Doug Dawson

Doug Dawson

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Slyclyde1991 said:
I mix coco up into a kind of super soil I guess you would call it, with perlite, organic slow release dry amendments like all purpose 444, bat guano and worm castings and small amounts of some other organic dry nutes I cant think of off the top of my head, usually a week or so before flower I will top dress with some more flower friendly dry amendments and water in. I've done 3 runs so far like that with 3-4 plants per run and I never had any issues, always greater than expected harvests, that's what my 3 younger autos are in, the sick one in question however, is in happy frog & ocean soil, I know I vegged her for way too long and depleted the soil. In the past I've had problems with nute lockout in soil so I was overly cautious with not overfeeding, which led to this poor starving dying girl.
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HMMM, to me that makes no sense as you are treating coco like soil but hey, if it works for you who am I to argue. I would worry about buildups of salts and such. Oh well, I am not here to convince you of anything, if it works for you or more importantly for your plants than that is all that matters.
 
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Slyclyde1991

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Doug Dawson said:
HMMM, to me that makes no sense as you are treating coco like soil but hey, if it works for you who am I to argue. I would worry about buildups of salts and such. Oh well, I am not here to convince you of anything, if it works for you or more importantly that plants than that is all that matters.
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There's no salt buildup because I'm not using chemical nutes, any salt residue would be minimal and flushed out during watering, I just use pure water ph'd nothing ever in it. But hey maybe I've just gotten lucky with strains or the right amount of shit I mix into the coco idk, but it works for me, much easier to deal with than this soil lol
 
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Slyclyde1991

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Bernie420 said:
You starved this plant, aint nothing you can do to bring it back ists fucked...suggest just give it the 275 ppms and add mag to it a few times then just let it alone till you can chop it and get some smoke to try out.

Totally under fed and nitrogen deficient...dont go adding nitrogen now... you aint fixing it.

Id be looking for spidermites daily.
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Yea that's what I figured, just didnt want to believe it smh, thanks man! I was thinking about just throwing most of her into bubble hash, I dont even know how well that will work and if itll be any good, I dont think the trichomes are gonna have time to mature into that lovely state we all enjoy
 
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Slyclyde1991

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Just an update if anyone cares, shes doing better! I think she'll hold out long enough to get at least some mature buds off of :) I transplanted her from a 3g in soil, shook off as much soil as I could and put her in a 5g with just coco and perlite. A little more hopeful now but well see! Thanks everyone for their thoughts, much appreciated!
 
KlompenOG

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The damage and the recovery all make me think of root damage as a culprit. Have you checked for root aphids? They can be really insidious and the damage they do is really inconsistent(some weeks its much worse than others). I spent months trying to figure out what was wrong with one of my previous grows and ultimately discovered root aphids.
 
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Slyclyde1991

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KlompenOG said:
The damage and the recovery all make me think of root damage as a culprit. Have you checked for root aphids? They can be really insidious and the damage they do is really inconsistent(some weeks its much worse than others). I spent months trying to figure out what was wrong with one of my previous grows and ultimately discovered root aphids.
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Shit man I hope not! Wouldn't my other plants be affected too? How do you tell?
 
KlompenOG

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I found them with a microscope. Sometimes a single plant may be more vulnerable or a vector only made it on to that plant. I had just one plant out of all of them that just got barnacles all over it recently for example; I only spotted the first few because I was doing a routine check with a scope. It may not be likely its aphids, but I always recommend looking over plants with a microscope when they have problems. Its amazing what you'll find sometimes...

Since I started adding silica to the soil I have had very little need to remove pests(the plants are just so hardy). I generally let the pests be and wait till my lady bugs kill them. I almost never resort to toxins if I can help it.
 
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