DWC 18g Totes.

Qronyq said:

Love advice on the pruning techniques. Usually I trim water leaves throughout veg but I decided to try something different and let the plant just grow all of its veg stage.

Last grow I did a huge amount of trimming leaves and it definitely stunted my flower growth. Got some airy indoor buds and a lot of small popcorn buds. Trying to not make that mistake this time around.

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I haven't done a ton of comparisons or anything, but I like the approach you're taking - let 'em grow as they will during veg, which should build the root system as much as possible, then lollipop after the flip and trim the junk that won't get light or produce anything desirable.

Qronyq said:

Never try to grow 4 plants Hydroponically in a 4x4 tent lol. So out of room in that tent it's not even funny lol.

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Haha, yeah, that's why a lot of people due 2 in hydro in a 4x4 tent and scrog them. Not sure what your veg times are, but if you want to do 4 plants next time due to using different strains or something, you could just flip to 12-12 sooner, before you get such monsters. They look happy and healthy though, for sure!

Finally another update..

Day 17 of flower. The stretch has been unmanageable that's for sure. I've had to super crop branches at least 3 times in these first 17 days. I think the stretch is finally about over. The Sour Diesel plants are monsters. Thinking I may have a little case of some possible root rot coming on. A few leaves are getting some brownish spots. Almost looks like a burn but more of a moldy look I guess. The roots look fine imo. Some brown stain from all the General Hydroponics flora series.

Remedies on root rot? Thinking about getting a bottle of hydroguard today and applying tomorrow when I change the reservoirs out tomorrow. How do I apply hydroguard? Is it something I mix with plain water and pH then soak the roots in the solution for a hour or so then put back into normal feeding nutrients or is it something I add to the normal reservoir?

Qronyq said:

Finally another update..

Remedies on root rot? Thinking about getting a bottle of hydroguard today and applying tomorrow when I change the reservoirs out tomorrow. How do I apply hydroguard? Is it something I mix with plain water and pH then soak the roots in the solution for a hour or so then put back into normal feeding nutrients or is it something I add to the normal reservoir?

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Hmm, I'm following this thread because I'm interested in what other people are doing with DWC and hydro these days but haven't done that much myself, so I don't really have a lot of experience with root rot. But anyway, Botanicare says to use Hydroguard at 2ml/gallon - leave it in the res all the time to promote growth of good, protective bacteria. I have no idea how long it takes to help, and whether it is helpful once you already have an issue, since it looks like they recommend using it from start to finish as a preventative measure.

yea man i didn't realize you were so limited on vertical space before. i would've went straight to 12/12 after 5-8 days veg. maybe 12 days tops. quicker to flower and smaller, stockier plants with fat ass colas. also why didn't you scrog?

Qronyq said:

Finally another update..

Day 17 of flower. The stretch has been unmanageable that's for sure. I've had to super crop branches at least 3 times in these first 17 days. I think the stretch is finally about over. The Sour Diesel plants are monsters. Thinking I may have a little case of some possible root rot coming on. A few leaves are getting some brownish spots. Almost looks like a burn but more of a moldy look I guess. The roots look fine imo. Some brown stain from all the General Hydroponics flora series.

Remedies on root rot? Thinking about getting a bottle of hydroguard today and applying tomorrow when I change the reservoirs out tomorrow. How do I apply hydroguard? Is it something I mix with plain water and pH then soak the roots in the solution for a hour or so then put back into normal feeding nutrients or is it something I add to the normal reservoir?

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Hydroguard is supposed to be used before getting root rot, it really won't fix root rot if you already have it and then use it. You just add I believe 2ml per gallon of water 1x a week or with nutrient changes. For root rot, bleach could work, or making a beneficial bacteria tea. H2o2 can slow it down, but I don't think it can kill it, plus H2o2 is very stressful on roots when used in concentration to kill pythium. Bleach at 0.5ml (half a ml) per gallon should clear it up.

Man, I miss Dwc. Love the growth and looks of those plants. Anyway, keep the water Temps down under 70 degrees. I use frozen 2 liter or liter bottles of frozen water. Pop em in, it'll cool the water very well, add one or two, a day.

Day 23 of flower. Just did a new reservoir change. 3rd week and I've still been super cropping certain branches down to get them away from touching the light. The 2 Sour D plants are sucking up a gallon to a gallon and a half of water everyday. The God's gift plants don't drink near as much.

I'm topping off with pHd water daily on the Sour D and every other day on the God's Gift.

Didn't Scrog due to the fact I've had to move my tent around the house to the garage. Once you SCROG you're stuck. Definitely will stick with the hydro way.

I learned the hard way that you don't need to veg nearly as long in hydro as you do soil. It's been a fun trip so far. Going to be interesting when I need to start tying up colas.

Here's some pictures. Trying to thin the Sour Ds up a little bit. They're monsters.

DluxGrow said:

yea man i didn't realize you were so limited on vertical space before. i would've went straight to 12/12 after 5-8 days veg. maybe 12 days tops. quicker to flower and smaller, stockier plants with fat ass colas. also why didn't you scrog?

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I'm already looking forward to the next DWC after these finish in the next 8 weeks or so.

When I do it all over again, I will build a 4x4 SCROG for the tent and I would do just 1 clone in a 18g tote right in the middle of the tent. I'd also have to switch to RDWC with a SCROG. Another reason I didn't Scrog here, I have to be able to dump and refill my containers every week.

I've learned a lot so far from doing it this round. I've also learned a lot from all of you guys on here.

I'd love to blow up my garage with like 6 XXXL hoods with 1 plant each in their own 50g trash can lol. My future fantasy.

You're have the polar opposite growing style from me, but i dig it man
I'm packing 10-14 plants per light running coco or aeroponics. currently building out an 8x 1000w flower room.
I used to run DWC back in the day but for larger systems coco is just easier and equivalent yields imo. your grow dude, excited to see how those come out & what size harvest you pull from those big ol' bitches

DluxGrow said:

You're have the polar opposite growing style from me, but i dig it man
I'm packing 10-14 plants per light running coco or aeroponics. currently building out an 8x 1000w flower room.
I used to run DWC back in the day but for larger systems coco is just easier and equivalent yields imo. your grow dude, excited to see how those come out & what size harvest you pull from those big ol' bitches

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Hahaha I've been wanting to get into the more plants per light grow with a circulating cycle of plants per week being harvested and more being brought in. I need a second tent lol. I honestly never expected these to get this big.. but now I know lol. I'm excited to see the yield as well. I'm hoping for 1.5 if I'm lucky. Wish I had a sealed environment for some co2..
Appreciate the love. I'll keep you updated as the weeks go on

Day 30 today.

Still running solid. Using almost the full recommendation of feeding via General Hydroponics FloraNova Expert Recirculating. I use almost 12 gallons of water but I run the feeding as if I were using 10 gallons.

My pH has been more stable now that I'm into flower and they are in a AC grow tent which helps keep my water temps down as well. The first 3 weeks of flower was rough trying to fight the wildest stretch I've ever seen. I had to bend a couple branches over a tad more just to keep them off the light. I have a couple buds that got a little burn on one side but oh well. They are drinking up the water like nothing that's for sure. I'm trying to top off the Sour D reservoir with at least a gallon and a half or 2 gallons daily. The God's Gift may take about a gallon, if that. But my pH has been about 6.3 steadily. I try to top off with 6.0-6.1 to try and keep it down.

Have some lower branches that keep dying away, figured it was a sign of root rot which I brought up earlier in this journal and I finally got a picture of it before cutting it all off.. opinions?

Other than that, they seem to be doing well. Trying to thin out the Sour D plants is always time consuming. Here's some plants from day 30. I'll try and get some with the HPS off close up of the buds and post them tonight or tomorrow.

The last 2 pictures are the possible root rot.

Thanks and stay tuned

Thanks for the update. Holy smokes they're HUGE They appear to be pretty resilient to the limited space and heat burns/root rot. For the root rot, go ahead and cut off the severely affected fan leaves, then implement some hydroguard or voodoo juice. It won't cure the already-rotten roots (nothing will) but it will promote new healthy roots, and you're looking for new white, fibrous, healthy, root growth going forward. Make sure your tent or environment is STERILE. Make sure there's no light leaks into your pots/reservoirs/water lines/etc. Next run i'd get fresh totes and remember to sterilize them BEFORE you use them. And in the future i'd recommend going straight to 12/12 in 5-20 days of veg to maintain height, stability, and quicker harvest with equivalent yield (if you run a few more plants). You could easily drill 4 or 5 holes in those totes.

Day 40 today of 12/12. Took these pictures yesterday on day 39 when I did my reservoir change. Got extremely lazy this last week with the tent. Still added pH'd water every other day to keep the reservoirs filled but didn't do any pH management through out the week and when I checked it yesterday before dumping the water it was all the way down to 5.6... Promise it won't happen again...

Yesterday was rough in general, my 2 Gods Gift plants decided to fall over causing a main stock to break. It didn't fully separate but it wasn't pretty. You can imagine my choice of words as I was trying to hold the plants up and tie them together and nothing was working... I finally got them back up and the water changed. Just tied all the branches together pretty much and whatever happens, happens.

God's gift supposedly has only about 2 weeks left until harvest anyways. The 2 Sour D are still monsterous. Still bending branches over to keep them off the light. I honestly feel I'll crop at least a LB off my 2 Sour D, but we will see. Theyre really starting to put on weight.

Estimated chop date for
God's Gift - Nov 5
Sour Diesel - Nov 19

But we all know how that goes. That's just based off strain flowering length. It may go a little longer.. we shall see..

In the process of finally ditching the 4x4 tent and building my 2 room perpetual grow setup in my attic. Building is in process already. Kinda waiting on me to get electrical ran to each room. Going to install a 20 Amp breaker for each room. Will veg off a 4ft 8 bulb t5 and some supplemental wall t5s.. flower on my 1000w GPS and probably add my 600w hps in there as well.

So far, going well. Still fighting the root rot issue. It isn't too bad but every week more and more lower branches die and wilt up. About to go grab some Hydroguard tonight or tomorrow from local Hydro store.

Here's some pics and I'll see you guys in a week

Reservoir change day tomorrow. started to see more and more branches dying away due to root rot. went to the local hydro store for some Hydroguard. ended up leaving with Hygrozyme instead. switching back over to GH 3 Part series these last 3 weeks or so of flower to finish out. He said a possible issue was using the Flora nova series due to it being super thick mixture. will post pictures after the reservoir change and addition of Hygrozyme to the mix.