Dwc help

HydroRed

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@Twerkle care to comment? LOL.
if he does, @HydroRed he's gonna explain to you that there is no such thing as a sterile res. I hope he shows up, he's funny.
Its cool, I'm not on here to argue. Been doing hydroponics alone for over a decade & I've NEVER had root rot or stink in my sterile res and I've never owned a chiller. I have res temps in the high 70's at times and dont use a bubbler. I've root bound a 3' plant in a 5 gallon bucket so I dont see any advantage of one over the other in regards to root growth.
What is it that you arent agreeing with exactly? I dont think ive said anything different than you, you just misread my stuff about clear water. I broke it down for ya bud *shrug* like i said, to each his own. This way works better for me than keepin a sterile rez. Less work and better results. Not sayin it's the same for everyone, there are many factors. Just sayin I'd never go back to sterile rez'es after seein the difference first hand
If it works for you....run it! Im just not agreeing with the statement that you can run higher temps with organics vs sterile. If you run the same temps in your organic res that I have in my sterile res -your gonna have a bucket full of sewer scum.
I also dont "battle every day" with my res. Matter of fact, Im able to leave my grow alone for almost a week at a time without worry.
The point I was making is that if you are running a sterile res and you still get root rot...then there are likely other issues to be dealt with in your grow environment.
 

rkymtnman

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Its cool, I'm not on here to argue. Been doing hydroponics alone for over a decade & I've NEVER had root rot or stink in my sterile res and I've never owned a chiller. I have res temps in the high 70's at times and dont use a bubbler. I've root bound a 3' plant in a 5 gallon bucket so I dont see any advantage of one over the other in regards to root growth.

If it works for you....run it! Im just not agreeing with the statement that you can run higher temps with organics vs sterile. If you run the same temps in your organic res that I have in my sterile res -your gonna have a bucket full of sewer scum.
I also dont "battle every day" with my res. Matter of fact, Im able to leave my grow alone for almost a week at a time without worry.
The point I was making is that if you are running a sterile res and you still get root rot...then there are likely other issues to be dealt with in your grow environment.
i'm with ya. i loved running sterile. HTH pool shock. 4 bucks for a 1lb bag that probably would last a decade.
i have been giving a product similar to hydroguard a shot for the last 2 grows and it works just as well and is just as easy.
 
I have no clue what I did but in the last two days my plants got double bushy and roots took off. They are drinking a lot more water, changed water last night checked the buckets this morning water level went down almost an inch. Really starting to see the rapid pace of hydro. I’m very interested in the roots system because I’ve always grown in soil but now I can see the roots actually growing and it’s crazy. I might try to put hydroguard back in after the H2o2 dissolves and see if my roots brown again but as on now they are pearly white. Green is starting to come out in the main stalk now so that problem looks to be fixed. Do most of you run ph at 5.8 cause I was at 5.5 to 5.6.
 

HydroRed

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I have no clue what I did but in the last two days my plants got double bushy and roots took off. They are drinking a lot more water, changed water last night checked the buckets this morning water level went down almost an inch. Really starting to see the rapid pace of hydro. I’m very interested in the roots system because I’ve always grown in soil but now I can see the roots actually growing and it’s crazy. I might try to put hydroguard back in after the H2o2 dissolves and see if my roots brown again but as on now they are pearly white. Green is starting to come out in the main stalk now so that problem looks to be fixed. Do most of you run ph at 5.8 cause I was at 5.5 to 5.6.
Plant one
Plant 2, both with Lucas formula and H2o2
Whatever you are doing...keep it up! Roots look good (not that they looked terrible before) but they are rooting well now and looking very established. Nice light green fresh new growth on the tops with good color on the other foliage. :clap:
 
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Jypsy Dog

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I have no clue what I did but in the last two days my plants got double bushy and roots took off. They are drinking a lot more water, changed water last night checked the buckets this morning water level went down almost an inch. Really starting to see the rapid pace of hydro. I’m very interested in the roots system because I’ve always grown in soil but now I can see the roots actually growing and it’s crazy. I might try to put hydroguard back in after the H2o2 dissolves and see if my roots brown again but as on now they are pearly white. Green is starting to come out in the main stalk now so that problem looks to be fixed. Do most of you run ph at 5.8 cause I was at 5.5 to 5.6.
I start @ 5.8 with a drift to 6.2 and then back.
 

auto1dwc

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I think you got that backwards my friend.
When you run a sterile res, theres no bacteria to balance or battle. You can also run higher temps with a sterile res too. Sterile res = white healthy roots and a higher headroom for res temps.
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My roots look like that, like a big ball of fresh spaghetti.
What bacterial protection do you use.
 

auto1dwc

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I have no clue what I did but in the last two days my plants got double bushy and roots took off. They are drinking a lot more water, changed water last night checked the buckets this morning water level went down almost an inch. Really starting to see the rapid pace of hydro. I’m very interested in the roots system because I’ve always grown in soil but now I can see the roots actually growing and it’s crazy. I might try to put hydroguard back in after the H2o2 dissolves and see if my roots brown again but as on now they are pearly white. Green is starting to come out in the main stalk now so that problem looks to be fixed. Do most of you run ph at 5.8 cause I was at 5.5 to 5.6.
5.8-5.9 is best.
But then I also fluctuate between 5.8 - 6.2 through the grow.
 

neckpod

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Every day is a battle when you run a sterile rez lol every day shit wants in those buckets. The bennies fight them for me, so instead of fighting i just feed the bennies once a week. And since theyre fighting other organisms for me, the temps can get higher without risk. I know roots are supposed to be white lol mine are bright white the day after feeding when the foam goes down.
What i meant about the clear water is that my bennies make the water dark, so when it gets clear it means it's time to feed them and/or add more. I just felt like it was more work keepin it sterile. Plus these things really pump your roots up. If you consider 3 things, its hard not to side with bennies.
1. They break down the nutes and make them more available at different ph levels.
2. They fight off other organisms for you and maintain a stronghold on your rootzones.
3. They help your roots grow bigger and faster than theyd grow without bennies.

I'm still new but after struggling with pyrethrum or whatever its called and brown roots and then switching to this tea shit, i'm sold. To each his own though. This area is pretty hard to keep anything sterile in lol plus i dont use a box so theres no sealed environment. Just a room
I have not run sterile and do not intend on doing so,
I believe if you keep your nutes cool enough and run bennies you will not have any issues with rot.

IMO my roots are more healthy running like this than sterile,

Why do people think bright white roots mean they are healthy??

Brown ish coloured roots does not mean they are unhealthy,
My roots grow bright white and within a few days turn off white almost cream coloured and i believe this is natural staining from the nutrients or environment.
Bennies as stated above are good for the root zone and good for the plants in general and for this reason i can not understand why people say there bleached white roots are healthier than brown ish roots running bennies.

IMO bennies is the best way to go but the key here is IMO!!!!

Everyone to their own!!

Happy Growing
 

HydroRed

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How much of the 3% h2o2 do you use per gallon and how often?
I don't measure anymore, but when I first started measuring it I think it was like 10-15ml per gal.
H2o2 in the res is only affective for about 2-3 days. If you go longer than 3 days without topping off your res then you can re-add 10-15ml per gallon to the res.
 
I chose to go with hydroreds way because I don’t want to run my water chiller if I don’t have to. I have one that I bought but haven’t opened the box yet. Eventually once I get everything down and my nutes figured out I wanna switch fully to hydro. My water is 23 degrees Celsius and my roots are nice and clean. Growth is going good so I’m getting the hang of it. Once I get more experienced with it I’ll probably experiment with beneficial bacteria but for right now I’d say the sterile buckets is the easiest way for me to learn. My ph never really fluctuates which I feel like is kinda weird cause I hear everyone else has it rise? But thanks everyone for the advice!
 
For those of you in soil, have you guys had fucked up first leaves, water ph is fine nutes are fine but the leaves are fucked, bad genetics maybe or just the seed? One seed grew just fine the other 4 look like deformed garbage.
 
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