DWC Lowryder - Attitude Seed Bank

Do you use that AN overdrive hashlover? ive checked that out a few times but never ordered it...can you tell a difference?

Mine run on 120v. No benefit to run on 240v that I know of unless you have lots of lights. I think it has something to do with amps and wire size. I just didn't see any reason to do a 240v since I wanted to be able to run 120v stuff off the same line. I have the lights and fans plugged into the controller also. And I love having 40 amps in the closet!!! Just think of the lights I could run with all that. I need to tap off the one that was there with the GFI (that I put in before) and get a couple outlets in the room also. There is only one outlet in the room and it does not work right now, just need to get around to doing it.

roll420 said:

Do you use that AN overdrive hashlover? ive checked that out a few times but never ordered it...can you tell a difference?

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I got it to late for my last round. I though I had some time but they started finishing quicker than I expected. I'll be using it this time though. I did use some Bud Blood this time though. But it's to soon to tell.

greenearth5 said:

Well i talked with the hydro shop man and he confirmed that i should mainly use cha ching and maybe a bit of tiger bloom which is what im doin.. ill keep this up unless i get nute burn from using too much of one thing.. my ppms are 1500 which is a little lower then if i dumped everything in there.... i went and got a "UNA oder neutralizing" jar which totally covers up the smell of the plant .. im suprised its working.. probably wouldnt work for big grows but for my small grow... this $8 jar is working fine... here are some pic updates guys

any ideas on how much longer i might have? I was thinking that ill look at the trich of the top bud and just chop part of the plant at a time instead of chopping the whole thing... then again im ready to get rid of this big monster and ready to get some smaller plants growing that arent going to get more then a foot tall during flowering

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I agree with you im so sick of my sativas but i have a long time to go before they are done. i cant wait to get back to little bushy indicas! kush beans are gonna be great!

so hash, roll, and the rest of the gang... how do i grow a small plant... my blueberry plant got just as big as this plant and i want a few smalll fast plants.. and im ready to grow a few of these lowriders (possibly in soil) as long as i can keep them small. I cant get a 150 MH conversion bulb for this 150HPS system because no bulbs are made but i do have some cfls laying around... Should i get that foxfarm ocean forest soil, use the 1/2 gallon bags, and throw up a few cfls.. or would that not be enough for say 3-7 lowriders..

my ideal grow would be to grow all 7 lowriders (non feminized) under a MH or cfls in some soil... then once i harvest my current grow then i can throw all these under the 400HPS on 12/12 till harvest

What would i need to get in additon to my hydro stuff?

Well, if you weren't growing with auto-flowering strains, I'd say just put them under 12/12 from seed. But I don't know if that would make a difference with lowryder.

Perhaps an experiment is in order? Try doing lowryder under 12/12, from seed.

Maybe even put them back into 18/6 mid-way into flower? Kind of a reverse of what you'd do with non-ruderalis strains.

I might do that.. 12/12 from seed would be a good idea.. i left my current lowryder on 24/0 for 4 weeks and it jsut grew and grew and grew... maybe the 12/12 might not make it flower soon but it could keep it shorter? hmmm .. My only concern is that I do not have any vegging lights.. i only have a 400HPS and a 150HPs... i also have a few cfls of unknown light spectrum

hey green on the auto forum there was a guy that 12/12 from seed and had horrible results its on page 28 i would advise not to go down that route unless you got extra seeds to spare

not cool.. ill get on there and check it out.. my only other choice would be to get a mother plant going with this free DinaFem bluehash or DinaFem blue widow

I couldnt find that post... i only have 14 pages but if i had the actual post number instead page number then i could find it... im out for the night... peace all

Ok, bad idea then. Maybe get some bushmaster? Isn't that the stuff that stops vertical growth?

thats weird its page 28 post 277 and 280 it was posted by 420 brazilian

Hey GreenEarth.

Just tuning in and only had a chance to skim through so far but I finished a monster LR2 grow a few months ago in a DWC system myself.

-Never ever go 12/12 with autos. Stick strictly to 18/6 or 20/4. 18/6 is the preferred for LR2.

-FF Hydro nutes are the bomb! I only used the trio pack (Grow Big, Big Bloom, and Tiger Bloom). Used them in the ratios listed in the feeding chart. Beware going too high on the ppm. Early on in their life they'll nute burn pretty easily. But later on, they won't burn as much as they will stunt in flowering a bit (in my experience). Using a ppm meter will clarify exactly what your plants want (add more nutes when ppm drops, add more water when ppm rises). I also used hygrozyme in my grow (not sure the effect it really had by the end results were solid).

Sorry bout not getting a chance to read all the way through before posting bro.

Here's a pic of my finished product. 1 LR2 under 150w HPS. Total yield was 3 oz.

-Butters

I have my settings changed so that 100 post show up on a page... therefore i have less pages ... its a hassel sometimes... it sounds like i wont be doing 12/12 with the auto strain so back to the drawing board

atxbudgrower said:

hey green on the auto forum there was a guy that 12/12 from seed and had horrible results its on page 28 i would advise not to go down that route unless you got extra seeds to spare

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you got 3 oz from that tiny plant??? you must be a miracle grower cause my bush is a monster and it looks like theres only 3/4 oz on it so far... got a journal?

(Butters) said:

Hey GreenEarth.

Just tuning in and only had a chance to skim through so far but I finished a monster LR2 grow a few months ago in a DWC system myself.

-Never ever go 12/12 with autos. Stick strictly to 18/6 or 20/4. 18/6 is the preferred for LR2.

-FF Hydro nutes are the bomb! I only used the trio pack (Grow Big, Big Bloom, and Tiger Bloom). Used them in the ratios listed in the feeding chart. Beware going too high on the ppm. Early on in their life they'll nute burn pretty easily. But later on, they won't burn as much as they will stunt in flowering a bit (in my experience). Using a ppm meter will clarify exactly what your plants want (add more nutes when ppm drops, add more water when ppm rises). I also used hygrozyme in my grow (not sure the effect it really had by the end results were solid).

Sorry bout not getting a chance to read all the way through before posting bro.

Here's a pic of my finished product. 1 LR2 under 150w HPS. Total yield was 3 oz.

-Butters

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greenearth5 said:

you got 3 oz from that tiny plant??? you must be a miracle grower cause my bush is a monster and it looks like theres only 3/4 oz on it so far... got a journal?

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Yeah. I did a shitty job on putting in something in that pic for size reference.

That's why I wanted to post in your journal without getting a chance to fully read it. Your plant IS a monster. But it can and will fill in more in the coming weeks. Once I saw you were going hydro, I figured that I'd drop in some of the limited info that I picked up on my LR2 grow. With a plant your size, I could see you pulling a real heavyweight here (my 3oz one would be a joke compared to what you could get).

Here's the journal I did for that one (https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubbleponics/180382-attempt-making-lowryder2-seeds.html).

Mostly useless posting on my part but enough pics where you can see the progression.

Yours has a ton of branches stemming off of it. Mine really only had like 4 or 5 main colas that housed pretty much all of the bud. Saw that you took out some of the lower branches...good idea. Don't think mine was tall as yours was. But i do remember mine being as wide as it was tall and over 1' easily (I think 1.5' but don't quote me on that).

You'll notice in the pics in my journal exactly how much bud weight this strain (LR2) can add in the final 3 weeks. The difference from 5/28 to 6/20 in bud size was staggering. And the ppm never went all that high during that period for me. Never took her over the 600ppm mark I recall (any time I did, the ppm level would rise in the rez the next day, telling me to back off a bit). Saw that yours was over 1000ppm and was wondering if that ppm was going down each day.

As I'm now caught up on your journal (very nice and detailed btw), I would recommend that you avoid the 1 week flush. Reason being the budweight added towards the end. I know it's a personal choice and all, but you will lose bud weight and yield by flushing for that last week. With that light, the nutes you have (I have no experience with the Cha Ching so I don't know about that one at all), and the remaining time you have left, you can pull off a real monster auto grow here.

Don't worry about the height issue too much. Sometimes, these autos get pretty damn tall.

Now that I have read through I also realize that you don't know exactly which strain you're working with. Could be a LR1, which won't yield as much (although the seeds/pollen are quite precious). The lr2's were bred to yield quite a bit more...but I was pretty surprised at just how much they were capable of.

Scribed and can't wait to see how this monster lady finishes out boss.

-Butters

If you set something up with some CFL's you can get some short bushy plants. I still use them for veg and in the 8 weeks or so it takes a batch to flower I have more ready to go. They don't stretch like the can with an hps. You can start flowering them with the CFL's and when you see flowers starting move them under the 400. My first grow was like that. I did not have an hps yet and didn't get one until after they started to flower. They did really good and I got 2+ ounces off each plant (2 plants) in a box about 2'x2'. I have been using the soft whites in the CFL's since they are the biggest I can get locally. I have 42w and 65w . I found the 65w at home depot. According to my light meter the larger bulbs put out much more usable light that travels much farther. It's always good to have a reflector also, check out the brooder lights at home d or lowes. You can get a "Y" adaptor and put 2 bulbs in each reflector.

I chopped off some of the small lower branches tonight. There was some bud on them but i made sure they were the branches that werent getting much if any light. All the main colas are still intact!!! The lower branches are in the grow room hanging side waise until i figure a better way to dry them. mannnn when i was in there clipping branches a part of me wanted to chop the whole plant or at least keep chopping branches... haha .. the only thing im addicted to is growin and especially the choppin part.. i really dont even smoke pot very often at all.. maybe once a week sometimes a few times a day

sweet dude.. i posted in your journal but its not much.. im not much of a typer but more of a picture reader haha... if i got 3 oz off this plant i would be totally satisfied.. ill weight what i got off these lower branches after a few days or maybe even tomorrow... since you have experience growin lowriders can you give me any advise how to 100% make sure my next batch of lowriders dont grow very tall.. i dont mind if they are wide so long as they arent tall... im considering the cfl vegging or getting a mh to veg with.. prob wont do soil just yet but rather stick them in a small tub for another DWC grow

hey hash.. i already have some cfl's of an unknown light spectrum, a y adapter, and something to put them in... would this work or am i needing something else or more lights? .. i have a problem with the leaves yellowing.. usually the bottom leaves yellow and i pick them off but since there are no more bottom leaves its starting to happen to my leaves on top near the buds.. any ideas why they are turning yellow? its not nute burn from to much nutes (thats int he past) .. its simply turning yellow.. could this be a lack of something... my air pump turns off at night with the light.. its all on a timmer.. could this be lack of oxygen during the night