DWC NUTE LOCKOUT HELP

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Gorilla zkittlez DWC photo

PH at 6.0 PPM at 750 Water temp at 68. Air temp is 77 RH is 70. Week 8 in Veg.



I had a root rot issue last week but did an hour long H2O2 soak and massaged roots to get the slime off and they're back looking better. I also throw frozen water bottles in there every couple hours to mitigate high water temps. I also upgraded to a new pump today so I've got two airstones running. I had a slight pest problem that's now totally under control. I feed with GH flora trio. Right now I give them 12.5ml of each about once a week with new water. Am I doing something wrong? I scrub the bucket when I change the water too. A couple days ago the leaves started turning yellow and dying badly so I took a couple of them off. There's new growth but it's coming in slowly and leaves seem dry and wispy. I saw someone suggest a flush but I don't know what that is or how to do it. Anything helps right now thanks.
 

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BobThe420Builder

BobThe420Builder

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Pics of roots and bubbles in bucket

It's not lockout

Why are u given same amount of each, those aren't seedlings

How much water for 12.5ml

Tap or ro water

Any Calmag


Get some hydroguard and z7 for the goopies and eliminate using h202
 
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BobThe420Builder said:
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A little over 1/3 of the way filled with water and I figured since I'm on week 8 of veg she could take the nutes. Im currently feeding to 300 ppm of nutes as that's what someone told me the remedy was. They said feed to 300 ppm and ph to 5.7. Let the pH rise and the ppms should drop as the pH rises over a couple days. Hydroguard arrives tomorrow. I was thinking of adding some H202 to deal with the roots for now. Oh and it's tap water
 
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H202 kills anything beneficial. U hardly have roots, so stop that

How far below the net pot is the water
How often u change and clean the rezz

Use this schedule, they are never all the same at any point except seedling. Start at week two at about 2/3 strength or so and get some CalmagGH-Flora-simple-recirculating.jpg
 
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BobThe420Builder said:
H202 kills anything beneficial. U hardly have roots, so stop that

How far below the net pot is the water
How often u change and clean the rezz

Use this schedule, they are never all the same at any point except seedling. Start at week two at about 2/3 strength or so and get some CalmagView attachment 4617995
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Probably about 3-5 inches below the water. It rises when I add frozen water bottles. I change and clean the res once a week and I've been feeding at about half strength of all nutes since I started giving nutes in week 3. (I know I started giving nutes late)
 
My Name is Mike

My Name is Mike

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oP41No said:
Gorilla zkittlez DWC photo

PH at 6.0 PPM at 750 Water temp at 68. Air temp is 77 RH is 70. Week 8 in Veg.



I had a root rot issue last week but did an hour long H2O2 soak and massaged roots to get the slime off and they're back looking better. I also throw frozen water bottles in there every couple hours to mitigate high water temps. I also upgraded to a new pump today so I've got two airstones running. I had a slight pest problem that's now totally under control. I feed with GH flora trio. Right now I give them 12.5ml of each about once a week with new water. Am I doing something wrong? I scrub the bucket when I change the water too. A couple days ago the leaves started turning yellow and dying badly so I took a couple of them off. There's new growth but it's coming in slowly and leaves seem dry and wispy. I saw someone suggest a flush but I don't know what that is or how to do it. Anything helps right now thanks.
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Did you paint the inside of your bucket black? The outside is blue, inside looks black. This would be very toxic to your plants given the chemicals in paint. You would paint the outside black if you felt that was necessary, not the inside. This is 100% a problem.
 
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My Name is Mike said:
Did you paint the inside of your bucket black? The outside is blue, inside looks black. This would be very toxic to your plants given the chemicals in paint. You would paint the outside black if you felt that was necessary, not the inside. This is 100% a problem.
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Gemtree

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It's overwatered which in hydro means the roots aren't getting enough oxygen. Either the slime is suffocating the roots or you don't have enough air going to the roots. You want the water 2" below the pot like Bob said so they can get more oxygen.
 
My Name is Mike

My Name is Mike

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oP41No said:
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Okay my friend, before you go spend money on all types of solutions, here are a few suggestions.

8weeks veg, your plants should be MUCH bigger in size. I would start over completely. Normally, I would never say this but this is absolutely necessary in this case IMO.

Get new buckets. Home depot sells black 5gal buckets. Any foreign chemical should never come in contact with your plants, rez, water etc.

Test the ppm of your tap water before adding nutes. This gives you starting baseline ppm so you know how much nute mix you're using to get a total ppm.

PH range for hydro is 5.5-6.2. IMO that's the sweet spot range. I like to start at 5.5 and let it climb to 6.0 before dropping again. Nutes have PH buffers which should help with any drastic PH swings.

You need to know how much your plants are drinking. Its important as that'll give you insights and time to address in case there are issues about to come up. Either mark bucket at each .5 gallon or hook up a water level tube. Google hydro farm kit.

If you have questions, start asking away so we can help.
 
My Name is Mike

My Name is Mike

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Ah, one more thing. We don't flush in hydro. We do reservoir (rez/res) changes. If someone recommends a flush, what they mean is empty your rez out completely and start with fresh water and nute mix. If your plants are hurting, then rez change with fresh water first, then gradually add nute mix at 1/2 recommended dose and slowly increase every few days. Read your plants.

Always make sure you mix nutes in order. You won't need cal/mag since you're using tap, but this is also very important to avoid lockouts.
 
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My Name is Mike said:
Okay my friend, before you go spend money on all types of solutions, here are a few suggestions.

8weeks veg, your plants should be MUCH bigger in size. I would start over completely. Normally, I would never say this but this is absolutely necessary in this case IMO.

Get new buckets. Home depot sells black 5gal buckets. Any foreign chemical should never come in contact with your plants, rez, water etc.

Test the ppm of your tap water before adding nutes. This gives you starting baseline ppm so you know how much nute mix you're using to get a total ppm.

PH range for hydro is 5.5-6.2. IMO that's the sweet spot range. I like to start at 5.5 and let it climb to 6.0 before dropping again. Nutes have PH buffers which should help with any drastic PH swings.

You need to know how much your plants are drinking. Its important as that'll give you insights and time to address in case there are issues about to come up. Either mark bucket at each .5 gallon or hook up a water level tube. Google hydro farm kit.

If you have questions, start asking away so we can help.
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The buckets only been painted for about 2 days now. I've got another bucket that's clean on the inside and black on the outside if I switch it now is there a saving grace? I've got more seeds otw but it's gonna take like 3 weeks. I mix my nutes micro > gro > bloom.
 
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BobThe420Builder said:
You need to understand and perfect the processes

Nutes are way off
Painted bucket
I bet your oh fluctuates a lot
How far away is your light, what light
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I'm trying to get my nutes right now that I see.
That buckets been painted for about 2 days now so I can switch it to another I have that's not painted on the inside only the outside.
Literally this is the first time I'm hearing of "oh"
And my light is a kingbrite qb288 v3 it's about 32" away.
 
xtsho

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Remove from DWC.
Plant in 3 gallon pot of coco charged with 1/2 strength nutes.
Water sparingly with 1/2 strength nutrients just keeping the coco damp until plant to recovers.
Finish grow in coco.
Take on DWC another day.
 
My Name is Mike

My Name is Mike

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oP41No said:
The buckets only been painted for about 2 days now. I've got another bucket that's clean on the inside and black on the outside if I switch it now is there a saving grace? I've got more seeds otw but it's gonna take like 3 weeks. I mix my nutes micro > gro > bloom.
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Totally your call. These plants are resilient AF but I would personally be concerned with the exposure to the paint chemicals.

If you got nothing to lose and time to kill, switch buckets, only using fresh water and no nutes for at least a few days to try and get any shit out of the plants.

Hydroguard is a great suggestion and will help with root rot. "Help" not a complete solution.

What are your water temps normally? What do they spike to where you need to use frozen water bottles?

I also 2nd that PH swings is an issue. Test PH at least twice a day for few days to see if PH is swinging and how much if it is.

Or switch to coco lol.
 
BobThe420Builder

BobThe420Builder

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24" for the light

And re evaluate everything
And save that bitch till u get seeds


Write down everything we have said, we all seem to say the same things

Test yer water ppm and pH
Correct nutes ratio and mix order. Wait 5-10min between each to incorporate, stirring a few times
Always silica 1st, but yer not using it
Calmag
The DARK BROWN GH micro
Then all the rest
Get hydroguard ditch h202
Monitor pH every few hours to see if it's buffered by yer tap water
Water 2" below net pot

Probably more but u get the idea
 
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