Dying leaves/no growth (bugs?)

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MisterDubya

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Hello,
My plants are all dying. I use LED lights and Fox farm(haven’t fed the recently as the current issue seems to be making them very sensititve to anything). I had a spider mite problem but I’m not sure if this is from that as it does not look like other mite issues o have seen on forums nor do I see any webbing. Any ideas on cause and solution of the dying leaves and stagnant growth? Is there another pest I’m not seeing?AE023D94-A772-41D9-8A71-40BFCB823880.jpegA65F26D5-5189-4F83-91EE-7CF649F5490F.jpegF3B69BD6-176B-402F-ACCD-3EDCEEAECA1B.jpeg
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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Just like your previous efforts you somehow blast the nutrients to them when you flip them
Learning involves not doing the same thing over and over if it doesn’t work
I’m curious why you are growing/flipping in such small pots?
Next time up pot before feeding and wait till the third week of flower before giving a 1/4 dose of flowering nutrients
 
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MisterDubya

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Herb & Suds said:
Just like your previous efforts you somehow blast the nutrients to them when you flip them
Learning involves not doing the same thing over and over if it doesn’t work
I’m curious why you are growing/flipping in such small pots?
Next time up pot before feeding and wait till the third week of flower before giving a 1/4 dose of flowering nutrients
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Thanks, but they haven’t been fed in months, the whole room froze growthwise and began getting these issues. The flip was accidental as I wondered if they were getting burned by a light. The large pots/larger plants died first and fastest. This is what makes me wonder if it’s bugs or something. They are in the garage but temps and humidity is comparable to where they were before.
 
ChongMaBong

ChongMaBong

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MisterDubya said:
Thanks, but they haven’t been fed in months, the whole room froze growthwise and began getting these issues. The flip was accidental as I wondered if they were getting burned by a light. The large pots/larger plants died first and fastest. This is what makes me wonder if it’s bugs or something. They are in the garage but temps and humidity is comparable to where they were before.
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Sorry I don't usually butt in on shit like this but wtf ? If you ain't going to look after them properly or put the effort in whats the point? I think you at it I think maybe you are what they would call a sock account on here are you just wasting peoples time?
 
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MisterDubya

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ChongMaBong said:
Sorry I don't usually butt in on shit like this but wtf ? If you ain't going to look after them properly or put the effort in whats the point? I think you at it I think maybe you are what they would call a sock account on here are you just wasting peoples time?
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Wtf? If it’s over feeding your opinion seems to be to feed them more or I’m “not
Caring for them properly”? You are wasting everyone’s time by being silly.
 
ChongMaBong

ChongMaBong

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MisterDubya said:
Wtf? If it’s over feeding your opinion seems to be to feed them more or I’m “not
Caring for them properly”? You are wasting everyone’s time by being silly.
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I haven't said anything about feeding & i apologise for my rant but man why dont you do a bit of reading especially regarding environment.
 
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MisterDubya

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waterproof808 said:
The plants being on that cold concrete floor is not helping.
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that’s a Good point. My issues started when I moved and the only place I have is in the garage. My normal process doesn’t seem to work in there. I thought maybe it was the neem oil I used to kill the mites burning under the light on the leaves at first but it never stopped. I had not thought about the floor. Thanks for the input I’ll make some adjustments.
 
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MisterDubya

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Herb & Suds said:
Just like your previous efforts you somehow blast the nutrients to them when you flip them
Learning involves not doing the same thing over and over if it doesn’t work
I’m curious why you are growing/flipping in such small pots?
Next time up pot before feeding and wait till the third week of flower before giving a 1/4 dose of flowering nutrients
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I appreciate your input. Sorry if it came across differently. I was using the small cups to start clones and then transferring but this happened. I certainly did see a benefit from your advice last time when I cut back on nutes. I try not to use the forums too much as i can’t repay the advice very well and it feels like taking without giving, but both recent times you were there to help. Thanks
 
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waterproof808

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MisterDubya said:
that’s a Good point. My issues started when I moved and the only place I have is in the garage. My normal process doesn’t seem to work in there. I thought maybe it was the neem oil I used to kill the mites burning under the light on the leaves at first but it never stopped. I had not thought about the floor. Thanks for the input I’ll make some adjustments.
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I dont think its your main issue but a contributing factor. Do you have any drainage holes in those cups? Whats the temperature and humidity in your garage? At this point, there is no saving those plants. Need to modify your grow space a bit...get the plants up off the cement, work on your transplant timing and start over.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Good grief. You're frying those plants from overfeeding like others have told you. Throw those away and start over.

Plants can be grown in small containers but you have to know what you're doing. You should grow in larger containers so that you'll have more substrate to compensate for improper feeding.

It also looks like you have bugs. The only logical thing to do with those plants is burn them.

Get yourself at least a 3 gallon pot for your next try and don't overfeed your plants and fry them to a crisp.

You don't know how to grow plants in small containers so don't even try. And before you get all defensive, I'm trying to help. Some can grow in small containers but you're not one of them at least right now. I know what I'm talking about.



 
ChongMaBong

ChongMaBong

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MisterDubya said:
I appreciate your input. Sorry if it came across differently. I was using the small cups to start clones and then transferring but this happened. I certainly did see a benefit from your advice last time when I cut back on nutes. I try not to use the forums too much as i can’t repay the advice very well and it feels like taking without giving, but both recent times you were there to help. Thanks
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If you going to restart why dont you take a few pics of your grow space and equipment and what medium your using and what you want to accomplish and maybe that way you may get a better start and response from people on here this way they know you are genuine and want to try. There is some amazing growers on here try reading and following them you don't have to be completely involved just lurk either way good luck dude!
 
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MisterDubya

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xtsho said:
Good grief. You're frying those plants from overfeeding like others have told you. Throw those away and start over.

Plants can be grown in small containers but you have to know what you're doing. You should grow in larger containers so that you'll have more substrate to compensate for improper feeding.

It also looks like you have bugs. The only logical thing to do with those plants is burn them.

Get yourself at least a 3 gallon pot for your next try and don't overfeed your plants and fry them to a crisp.

You don't know how to grow plants in small containers so don't even try. And before you get all defensive, I'm trying to help. Some can grow in small containers but you're not one of them at least right now. I know what I'm talking about.



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It’s not over feeding. To reiterate. It’s been a long time since they have had anything but neem oil on the leaves and plain water. Those in 5 gallon soft pots died first and fastest. I’m thinking the russet mite suggestion is the most likely cause.076093B8-9F50-4624-A8F9-C66A339BF350.jpeghappier days.6E140FA3-4DD2-4A1E-808E-461BA0A5DE41.jpeghappier days shortly before the issues with these plants. Some others definitly had an over feeding issue a while ago, and I wish it was the case with these, but the timeline just doesn’t make sense.
 
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MisterDubya

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waterproof808 said:
I dont think its your main issue but a contributing factor. Do you have any drainage holes in those cups? Whats the temperature and humidity in your garage? At this point, there is no saving those plants. Need to modify your grow space a bit...get the plants up off the cement, work on your transplant timing and start over.
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Yea I meant that small tweaks might be beneficial overall. That’s a good point. It’s about 40-55% humidity and 50-65 degrees. Not optimal but I’m dealing with a transition in housing so I can’t do everything I’d like.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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MisterDubya said:
It’s not over feeding. To reiterate. It’s been a long time since they have had anything but neem oil on the leaves and plain water. Those in 5 gallon soft pots died first and fastest. I’m thinking the russet mite suggestion is the most likely cause.View attachment 5106327happier days.View attachment 5106328happier days shortly before the issues with these plants. Some others definitly had an over feeding issue a while ago, and I wish it was the case with these, but the timeline just doesn’t make sense.
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Damn. Now I feel like an ass for the way I worded my previous post. I still think you should burn those plants though.

If you sprayed too strong of a solution of neem and had your plants under lights while they were still wet from the foliar plants can suffer phytotoxicity. If the damage is too extensive then it will continue to get worse and the affected leaves will eventually die.

If those plants were still vegging you could potentially bring them back even though it would be better to start new plants. But they appear to have begun flowering.
 
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Kgrim

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Personally, I would scrap them all, sanitize the entire grow space, and work on getting your room dialed in to the proper temp and humidity. Add heaters, humidifier, dehumidifier, and get your core room dialed in, plants don't grow well with the environment #'s you posted. Also, if your going to use clear cups to "see the roots" put them inside darker cups, roots do not like light, and get them off that cold floor, milk crates work wonders. While your room might be 50-65, that concrete is cold as hell to those roots.
 
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