Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

weedemart

weedemart

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hey homebrewer, do you use RO or tap water with DG?

I read in one of your post DG contains enough calcium to be used with RO. I believe its true in a promix culture, it makes sense because the promix already contains calcium and retain calcium.... but would you say the same for water culture in clay pebble etc... ? What about mg?
 
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homebrewer

homebrewer

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weedemart said:
hey homebrewer, do you use RO or tap water with DG?

I read in one of your post DG contains enough calcium to be used with RO. I believe its true in a promix culture, it makes sense because the promix already contains calcium and retain calcium.... but would you say the same for water culture in clay pebble etc... ? What about mg?
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DG with RO water, in my opinion, is THE way to grow with DG. My tap water isn't balanced and I get some funky leaf coloring if I try to use any brand of food with my tap water. I like DG because it has everything you need, calcium and Mg included, so it's pretty much plug-and-play in any medium.
 
LuckyLefty112

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Hey HB, (this is my first post here btw, EVER...) i saw this thread not too long ago, and was intrigued, could the industry have everyone so fooled? So i decided to do a lil investigating, smoked, went to their website. Smoked, called their support number, then my mind was completely blown. I spoke to a guy named Raphael, very knowledgeable soul, and long story short, i wss convinced to try these nutes. Now, he suggested i use the Foliage Pro as opposed to Grow, i DO LIKE THE N COUNT! With the ProTekt, Mag Pro and Bloom, with some KLN for a couple weeks in the early veg and for cloning. I told him about your post and how it swung me, and then he talked to me about growing, politics, theory, and nonsense for like the next hour and a half. Soooo, i have those nutes on the way, cant wait, i mean obviously i cant speak to their performance yet, besides KLN which ive used on cuttings for a long time, but i can say they have an extremely knowledgeable staff, friendly, and i just wanted to stop in and say thank you, ive ALWAYS wanted a simple nute system without 16 seperate bottles, etc. and i probably wouldnt have ever tried it because of the ol 'if it seems too good to be true..'. So thank you for sharing and listening to nonsense from haters while staying headstrong and teaching the stupid (thats me, im the stupid), you got through to this guy. And HELLO RIU!!
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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LuckyLefty112 said:
Hey HB, (this is my first post here btw, EVER...) i saw this thread not too long ago, and was intrigued, could the industry have everyone so fooled? So i decided to do a lil investigating, smoked, went to their website. Smoked, called their support number, then my mind was completely blown. I spoke to a guy named Raphael, very knowledgeable soul, and long story short, i wss convinced to try these nutes. Now, he suggested i use the Foliage Pro as opposed to Grow, i DO LIKE THE N COUNT! With the ProTekt, Mag Pro and Bloom, with some KLN for a couple weeks in the early veg and for cloning. I told him about your post and how it swung me, and then he talked to me about growing, politics, theory, and nonsense for like the next hour and a half. Soooo, i have those nutes on the way, cant wait, i mean obviously i cant speak to their performance yet, besides KLN which ive used on cuttings for a long time, but i can say they have an extremely knowledgeable staff, friendly, and i just wanted to stop in and say thank you, ive ALWAYS wanted a simple nute system without 16 seperate bottles, etc. and i probably wouldnt have ever tried it because of the ol 'if it seems too good to be true..'. So thank you for sharing and listening to nonsense from haters while staying headstrong and teaching the stupid (thats me, im the stupid), you got through to this guy. And HELLO RIU!!
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Glad I could help. If you're growing in promix/coco/dirt, foliage pro and protekt is a great combo from start to finish. If you're in hydro, you might want to add 'bloom' during flowering, possibly starting with a 50/50 mix and tweak from there. I have not found a use for magpro and I only sometimes use KLN at cloning.

So now you've got some great plant food coming your way, but things like your environment, your water source, your watering technique, and your feeding levels can all affect plant growth. What I like about DG is that it will grow perfect plants when paired with pure water. If I see a leaf spot or something, I know it's not the food, it's something else (lights too close, dehumidifier too strong, etc).

Good luck, feel free to pop in with questions.
 
supdro

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I luv the ease of dg. like you said brew if I do dirt use 2 products and maybe even just the fp. Im currently in coco and I will have to use a little gh cal-mag so I don't get rust spots at 1ml per gallon not the recommended amount, but still the easiest product I have used
 
Youngtree777

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supdro said:
I luv the ease of dg. like you said brew if I do dirt use 2 products and maybe even just the fp. Im currently in coco and I will have to use a little gh cal-mag so I don't get rust spots at 1ml per gallon not the recommended amount, but still the easiest product I have used
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I was thinking about this also but I hit up HB and also Dyna-Gro and they both told me not to use cal/mg in addition cuz it has the perfect amount already in it!

Funny you just said you find no use for mag pro HB cuz that was my next question hah.

Your good man... maybe too good " insert paranoid smilie here :P "
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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supdro said:
I luv the ease of dg. like you said brew if I do dirt use 2 products and maybe even just the fp. Im currently in coco and I will have to use a little gh cal-mag so I don't get rust spots at 1ml per gallon not the recommended amount, but still the easiest product I have used
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If you're feeding at every watering, I wouldn't think calmag would be needed since DG is already supplying it. I wondering if moving from 1ml to 1.5mls/gal could make a difference? There is a talented grower who is killin' it in this journal (https://www.rollitup.org/t/sd-grows-gorilla-glue-4-phantom-og-and-ghost-og.853537/) using 1.25 - 1.5mls/gal of foliage pro.
 
supdro

supdro

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I have followed Sd actually I have pm him but that is from my personal experience where as I did get slight rust spots on lower leaves. I may try to remove cal-mag all together because I'm using a higher Ec Up to 550ppm hanna. Currently i add my pro tect then Cal Mag the rest of my EC is FP. currently I'm 2 weeks in flower do you think I should take out my cal mag and add FLoralicious plus?
 
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supdro

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HB in that link SD switched to promix. I just returned a 5k bail lol. I have so much coco right now I think I'll stick with it for a little bit. A lil faster growth rate from what i heard. First time flowering with coco. Also my water is 150ppm and if I'm adding the same nutrients protect and FP it will pretty much be the same as promix just more frequent watering IMO.
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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supdro said:
HB in that link SD switched to promix. I just returned a 5k bail lol. I have so much coco right now I think I'll stick with it for a little bit. A lil faster growth rate from what i heard. First time flowering with coco. Also my water is 150ppm and if I'm adding the same nutrients protect and FP it will pretty much be the same as promix just more frequent watering IMO.
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If I had to guess, your water is what is causing your rust spots. If calmag fixes that for you then keep on keepin' on with your calmag. I know that before my RO membranes need replaced, my RO machine will be kicking out water at 70ppm and at that ppm is where I start seeing odd spots.
 
supdro

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I have a new room I may start a journal I'm just not much for posting pictures. 2k Multi strain I have Blackwater, super Silver Haze, chem 91, vanilla Kush, purple kush, and pre 98 Bubba kush.it's not going to be your everyday journal though I veg a little too long my black water is over 6 foot tall
 
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supdro

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TTE="homebrewer, post: 11376563, member: 231911"]If I had to guess, your water is what is causing your rust spots. If calmag fixes that for you then keep on keepin' on with your calmag. I know that before my RO membranes need replaced, my RO machine will be kicking out water at 70ppm and at that ppm is where I start seeing odd spots.[/QUOTE]
you are right I have a old ro and the membrane does need to be replaced I may start to wean them off of the cal to see what happens. matter fact I water today I'll try it
 
supdro

supdro

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I have used it in my experience with every watering but I am in Coco but it can't hurt anything as a really doesn't adjust your PPM's too much... HB might have a different opinion
 
Youngtree777

Youngtree777

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supdro said:
I have used it in my experience with every watering but I am in Coco but it can't hurt anything as a really doesn't adjust your PPM's too much... HB might have a different opinion
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Im a coco loco loco :p

I was doin aero but read horrible reviews on y hydrofarm pumps so decided not to risk it..

But ty everyones input is appreciated good sir lol nice disp pic btw
 
homebrewer

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I also use protekt at every watering, however, I noticed brittle leaves towards the end of flower which I thought was an accumulation of too much protekt during the plant's life. These days I still use protekt at every watering, I just stick to about 1/2 ml/gal, sometimes less.
 
a mongo frog

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homebrewer said:
I also use protekt at every watering, however, I noticed brittle leaves towards the end of flower which I thought was an accumulation of too much protekt during the plant's life. These days I still use protekt at every watering, I just stick to about 1/2 ml/gal, sometimes less.
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Do you use the protek in late flower? Say day 50 and on?
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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a mongo frog said:
Do you use the protek in late flower? Say day 50 and on?
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That's a good question. In hydro I stopped using protekt during the last two weeks of flower. I just felt like it was unnecessary and a waste of protekt. I'm still playing with promix but I'll likely do something similar. It just depends on how 1/2ml/gal performs. I just recently started feeding with that new protekt dosage and will be harvesting the first plants from that 'tweak' in the next few weeks. So far I'm very happy with the feel of the leaves on this round of ladies.
 
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