Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

reverof

reverof

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If you are putting the nutes in before protekt in a say 1 gal jug, yes it can cause some crystalization, if your ppm is too high... I just did a test and it took 650ppm of grow prior to protekt being added to solution to see the crystallization effect. So that statement is not true that you MUST add protekt first... Now I would never add my main nute before protekt, as my recommendation was to add a small amount of grow (to add alittle N) then protekt then the rest bloom... now sure you can add protekt first and avoid any issue whatsoever but my advice was solid.

As far as this being Homebrewers thread, yesyou are correct, but the nice thing about an open forum is that everyone helps everyone... His test was concluded and with the help of a few others including Homebrewer, we are keeping the thread going with conversations including helping others use Dyna-Gro products and others if thats what they wish.

Instead of coming off as a troll looking to start something, making a statement such as... "I would recommend adding Protekt prior to any other nute as it is known to cause some issues of sort" would have been adding to this thread and present conversation, instead you pop off and attempt to make a statement for which you do not even understand the actual reasoning behind your statement.

If at anytime I overstep I expect the thread owner to say something to me, more respectfully in private, but will except it publicly. And If I am incorrect and corrected then my information in the future will be given in a correct form. This is how we all learn and continue to build off each other, making what we do better for everyone.
 
reverof

reverof

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Homebrewer... i accept that response :)
I am not sure exactly what their reasoning is, as I did do a small test and with it... maybe more of a precaution so that people dont put all their nutes in then add protekt which would could cause a problem *shrug* Will remember that for future reference and use. Thanks!
 
Encomium

Encomium

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reverof said:
If you are putting the nutes in before protekt in a say 1 gal jug, yes it can cause some crystalization, if your ppm is too high... I just did a test and it took 650ppm of grow prior to protekt being added to solution to see the crystallization effect. So that statement is not true that you MUST add protekt first... Now I would never add my main nute before protekt, as my recommendation was to add a small amount of grow (to add alittle N) then protekt then the rest bloom... now sure you can add protekt first and avoid any issue whatsoever but my advice was solid.

As far as this being Homebrewers thread, yesyou are correct, but the nice thing about an open forum is that everyone helps everyone... His test was concluded and with the help of a few others including Homebrewer, we are keeping the thread going with conversations including helping others use Dyna-Gro products and others if thats what they wish.

Instead of coming off as a troll looking to start something, making a statement such as... "I would recommend adding Protekt prior to any other nute as it is known to cause some issues of sort" would have been adding to this thread and present conversation, instead you pop off and attempt to make a statement for which you do not even understand the actual reasoning behind your statement.

If at anytime I overstep I expect the thread owner to say something to me, more respectfully in private, but will except it publicly. And If I am incorrect and corrected then my information in the future will be given in a correct form. This is how we all learn and continue to build off each other, making what we do better for everyone.
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Well apologies if you think I'm trying to "troll" you. I am not trolling but found issue with random advice given that (at least I thought) was not only wrong but detrimental to a nutrient solution: That adding grow/bloom formula into your water prior to pro-tekt is OK.
 
burrr

burrr

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Rev, you are throwing out some real sloppy advice bro!

1000 ppm on a .5 conversion will fuck things royally
Adding any high PH solution straight to your res will cause the white crystals to fall out of solution. Dilute your PH up, or Protek before adding to the res.
It is not necessary to add grow mix during flowering, only if your strain needs the extra N do you need to add it.
 
burrr

burrr

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reverof said:
During flowering you want to use Just Grow & protekt, obviously start lower say 400ppm to begin with and up it to about 1200 or whatevfer your plant will take without showing issues.
You shouldnt use as much grow during blooms. use about 1/5-1/4 of grow during flowering and up your bloom amount... During bloom you need much less Nitrogen and more P, which is what the bloom formula offers, ading Grow to the mix just gives a little more nitrogen as homebrewer feels bloom is lacking a little N.

Your on the right track though!
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This needs a little editing, Rev
 
burrr

burrr

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reverof said:
ahh ok... for some reason thought I read where you use calmag must of read it wrong.... I picked up my first bottle of Dyna-Gro today to start my F&D later this week, germinating half dozen seeds for it :)
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Just picked up your first bottle, yet your giving advice?
 
reverof

reverof

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burrr said:
Just picked up your first bottle, yet your giving advice?
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Sure, as giving a little advice from information gathered by many using the product, basically passing the info on thats already been posted. btw when it comes down to it, nutes are nutes, taking the knowledge I have from using other nutes, and the information learned here using the specific nute makes common sense.
 
burrr

burrr

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reverof said:
Sure, as giving a little advice from information gathered by many using the product, basically passing the info on thats already been posted. btw when it comes down to it, nutes are nutes, taking the knowledge I have from using other nutes, and the information learned here using the specific nute makes common sense.
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But when you suggest things like PPM levels in the 1000's, thats real bad info. dynagro will burn the shit out of weed plants at those levels.
 
reverof

reverof

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I said level of 1000ppm shouldnt be too much... 5mls of Bloom, 1mls of Grow, 1mls of protekt and a touch of calmag and 1 gallon of water is at 960ppm, with water starting about 70ppm

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The above wasnt 960 was 860
 
burrr

burrr

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PPM numbers are misleading, that is why Homebrewer's thread discussed nute levels in EC numbers which are consistent. If I ran 1000 ppm, I would be at an EC of 2.0, and burn the shit out my plants. I've run dynagro at high, medium, and low nute levels. I like an EC of .8 for most of my grow cycle.
This is not a guess, or what I read somewhere, or what worked with some other brand.
 
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bookechu

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I Just watered my plants. I added some blackstrap which brought it to 1000ppm but the nutes and water were at about 680ppm (250 from water), is this still fine?
 
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nursejason

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Alright being a newbie and wanting to try dyna grow at suggestion of son of owner (personal friend) I picked up 2 gallons of liquid bloom yesterday and pro tek, gave 1/2 teaspoon of pro tek today per gal due to warning of chemical reaction/clumping warning of mixing with bloom, I am in soil fox farm, ocean frog, perlite in smart pots and outdoor. This is my second grow and trying some new suggestions, under cleaning of small branches. Gave Neem oil spray a few days ago, pro tek today, roughly about 2 wks from flower and read with the bloom I could start now which will help put into flower, been just giving RO and don't have digital PH tester but my RO appears to be an even 6, soil maintaining at roughly 6.5. My plan is to pro tek one day, bloom next per suggested directions and start adding sweetener with bloom in a couple of weeks. I am also giving organic tea on water/pro tek days and plan to do at least a 5 day flush. Son of owner told me I should add mag but I don't think I need it. I am open to suggestions/critique if my plan is bad in any way shape or form. Lastly I have a street light issue which on my first grow appeared to limit main cola growth so I bought 5ft x 50 ft shading and lined fence to help with more darkness during flower. Last year I did biobizz, humbolt bud swell, and earth juice and for first time had pretty decent results. I hope to do better this year, also looking forward to final smoke/yield report. Thanks to HB for his insight and all others with much more grow time under their belt, if this goes well I may jump up to indoor but think 3 decent outdoor grows is good before I get into the more technical indoor work, thanks for listening. :-)
 
Trichy Bastard

Trichy Bastard

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I probably should keep my mouth shut too.. But you both sound like reasonable people, and both only have intentions to help. So leave it at that. The maufacturer's directions say to add it first- good. A test to visually inspect for precipitation- done. Ok, actually I learned something here through the banter. The only question is if the precipitation is the only issue. And even if so, most people tend to run more than 650ppm, so the manufacturer's advice is wise for most applications... Nothing to not get along about anymore, there is alot worse people out there to call a troll... And we all make little mistakes ;)
 
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