Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

smokeymcpotterton

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I have a quick question: You had mentioned that you mix the nutrients and use both grow/bloom together, do you actually physically mix the two in their own new container, or just put a little of oen then the other into your res each time you prepare a solution? Thanks!

Also for the next 'showdown', my vote would be towards House and Garden vs DynaGro
 

hornedfrog2000

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I have a quick question: You had mentioned that you mix the nutrients and use both grow/bloom together, do you actually physically mix the two in their own new container, or just put a little of oen then the other into your res each time you prepare a solution? Thanks!

Also for the next 'showdown', my vote would be towards House and Garden vs DynaGro
You just want to make sure it is diluted with water before you start mixing chemicals. Some chemicals if mixed will create fumes that can kill you. This applies to kitchen cleaning supplies as well. You just don't want to be mixing random chemicals.
 

homebrewer

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I have a quick question: You had mentioned that you mix the nutrients and use both grow/bloom together, do you actually physically mix the two in their own new container, or just put a little of oen then the other into your res each time you prepare a solution? Thanks!
The grow and bloom formula are the same other than the NPK values so it's ok to mix those in their concentrated form. That's what I do for my dirt plants. In regards to grow and bloom in flower for hydro, I usually add what I need to my measuring glass and dump them in at the same time. Protekt first, base nutes, then magpro, mixing in between each.


Also for the next 'showdown', my vote would be towards House and Garden vs DynaGro
What I was hoping would happen in this test is that the results would reflect what the labels indicate as far as NPK ratios are concerned. You should be able to look at a label and know whether it will work well or not and in Connoisseur's case, a 1-1-2 ratio told me that it couldn't compete with a 1-3-2 ratio (..again, still waiting on my smoke reports in order to post the final results). My point is; one doesn't need to test every brand of fertilizer out there in order to determine it's worth. H&G also offers (in my opinion) a poor ratio for flower just like Connoisseur and aside from all the other categories that make a great fertilizer, my guess is H&G would produce smaller, leafier yields compared to DynaGro.
 

reverof

Active Member
I am just curious what your next test will be, don't care if it is nute vs nute or maximizing another strain, or hell stuffing 10 plants into your F&D and seeing what happens... I just enjoy the information you make available via your tests :)

Again I look forward to seeing the next!
 

burrr

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I am just curious what your next test will be, don't care if it is nute vs nute or maximizing another strain, or hell stuffing 10 plants into your F&D and seeing what happens... I just enjoy the information you make available via your tests :)

Again I look forward to seeing the next!
Agreed! Lots of great info comes out of every one of of your Journals Homebrewer.
 
Upon reading and catching mixing warnings I gave 1/2 tsp per gal of protek and 1/2 tsp of bloom following day, mixed 1/2 tsp of protek/gal shook gal container and then added 1/2 tsp/gal of bloom with no reaction today. Label says to feed every day both protek and bloom making sure to mix protek first and as long as no obvious problems this is my current plan. Again I am in soil outdoor, only on my 2nd grow and just want to be careful due to I am a total newbie. I am in pre-flower now and read this will help put into flower, my next question is should I pick up some mag or will everything be fine feeding everyday on this schedule until harvest?? Lastly any thoughts on adding earth juice sweetener in a couple of weeks? Thank you for your time and expertise for perhaps an overly cautious newbie.
 

maphisto

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WAS UP H/B!! hope all is well with ya. got any mew exciting projects going on? how did that chronic taste/yield will she be a keeper?
 

homebrewer

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WAS UP H/B!! hope all is well with ya. got any mew exciting projects going on? how did that chronic taste/yield will she be a keeper?
I think I commented on the chronic a few pages back. I also have a breeding project going on so maybe in a few months or so, I'll post something about that.
 

fallinprince

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Thats epic if you create something beautiful i would LOVE to be allowed to grow it. I really hope that i misread that post and that you will continue to throw up grows journals, in the mean time until the breeding project comes out

P.s. cant wait for the final results.
 

tony1960

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Hey all and H/B, I made the switch to DG a month ago now. Using both Bloom and Grow. In veg, I'm running grow at about 1/2 strength and the clones are doing great. In flowering with bloom everything is looking very good and comparable to when I was running Advanced Sensi 2part but at less than 1/2 the cost.

I guess my only surprise is how acidic the bloom formula is. I find I have to use what seems to be a lot of "PH UP" to bring the mix up into the desired value. But once it's there, then it seems to drift back into the acidic range again after a couple of days. This is the opposite of any experience that I've had with Ionic or Advanced where they would drift to the alkaline range gradually.

Both of the shops where I go will gladly order DG for me but do not keep much of it around on the shelves. One said very few use it, the other told me it's and "old school" nute. But I don't mind using whatever gives me solid results and saves me money.

I guess my final observation about DG is that it seems to "salt out" much less than Ionic by comparison. Bottom line is that I like the stuff.

My two cents worth, Tony
 

fallinprince

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get Pro-tekt it will solve some of the drift or even the need to PH at all. typically i add pro-tekt MIX WELL then add bloom or grow then check my ph and its almost always between 5.5 - 5.8 Im using R/O water from those 25cent per gallon dispensers

but yes i do seem to use more ph up than ph down
 

homebrewer

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I've also found that protekt does a great job of balancing the pH of the water, whether it's tap or RO. If you're not using protekt, I'd highly recommend it to stabilize that pH.

what ya breeding hb?
The parent plants are fantastic and both exhibit traits that I'd like to showcase in a final mother. I have a handful of plants (...along with a bunch of ungerminated beans) right now that are starting to show sex so once they're all cloned , I'll flower and see what I'm working with. A possible back cross to one of the parents could be in the future if I don't quite accomplish what I'm looking for. Or, I'll germ more beans.
 
I went back through this entire thread last night and today, made some adjustments, picked up some cal/mag today due to I am using RO although I think I caught not as much of an issue in soil, could be wrong but will monitor my progress, and going to be on a feed/water/feed schedule, also caught this might be HB's last journal due to newbies upsetting, I hope sincerely I was not out of line in any way and gained tons of knowledge from this thread. I am a little nervous about overnuting and am just going to stick with the protek, bloom, and cal/mag, and also the organic tea through entire flower cycle, I would post pics of my progress but not sure how to do so from phone. Again thank you so much for your time and expertise you have been extremely helpful to me.
 

Trichy Bastard

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I went back through this entire thread last night and today, made some adjustments, picked up some cal/mag today due to I am using RO although I think I caught not as much of an issue in soil, could be wrong but will monitor my progress, and going to be on a feed/water/feed schedule, also caught this might be HB's last journal due to newbies upsetting, I hope sincerely I was not out of line in any way and gained tons of knowledge from this thread. I am a little nervous about overnuting and am just going to stick with the protek, bloom, and cal/mag, and also the organic tea through entire flower cycle, I would post pics of my progress but not sure how to do so from phone. Again thank you so much for your time and expertise you have been extremely helpful to me.
The most respectible and best thing you could have done is read the whole thread. I am sure it has answered most of your questions as it did mine. It's such a good read anyway the way HB does his comparisons and standardizations alot more professional than most. Good Luck NurseJason...
 
The most respectible and best thing you could have done is read the whole thread. I am sure it has answered most of your questions as it did mine. It's such a good read anyway the way HB does his comparisons and standardizations alot more professional than most. Good Luck NurseJason...
My first post ever on this forum was this thread and initially I probably read at least 50% but when it got somewhat technical with the hydro I bypassed some, not the last time I read everything and found it to be very helpful. I am just glad there are people out there like HB willing to impart their knowledge and experience, after all I believe if you want quality you have to devote time and research, and love to the ladies, just like in life you usually get what you give. Thanks again for a wonderful thread/post, checking back for final report but being patient. I am not even clear how to sub to this, all good.
 
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