Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

burrr

Well-Known Member
HB. what do you think about the sulfur content in dynagro? none is shown on the label, % wise. But I do see that sum of the salts in grow and bloom are sulfates of some sort. I might try to do a round with some well water added to RO, and skip the mag pro. It looks like it might be my only source of sulfur, but I bet my 250ppm well water has some sulfur in it.
 

burrr

Well-Known Member
HB. what do you think about the sulfur content in dynagro? none is shown on the label, % wise. But I do see that sum of the salts in grow and bloom are sulfates of some sort. I might try to do a round with some well water added to RO, and skip the mag pro. It looks like it might be my only source of sulfur, but I bet my 250ppm well water has some sulfur in it.
I was looking at the dyna-gro site, and sure enough they list sulfur at .05%. I coulda swore that the jug did not show any sulfar!, i might have just been stoned... who knows.
 

unohu69

Well-Known Member
pretty roots in a cheap bubbler, just for kiks.

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only thing here is DG protek, and DG grow. water ph'd of course. Im amazed at how healthy the roots are. not sure how much air is sufficient, but seems to be ok so far. This was just swapped into the coffee can today, was running in a much smaller container.

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earlier pic:
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homebrewer

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HB. what do you think about the sulfur content in dynagro? none is shown on the label, % wise. But I do see that sum of the salts in grow and bloom are sulfates of some sort. I might try to do a round with some well water added to RO, and skip the mag pro. It looks like it might be my only source of sulfur, but I bet my 250ppm well water has some sulfur in it.
Their website lists .09% sulfur in their bloom formula but that does not appear on the label. I suppose that's a little low compared to other brands but I haven't seen any problems resulting from that. Magpro offers 1.5% sulfur which is a healthy dose and that's kinda why I use magpro.
 

Rick Ratlin

Active Member
Thanks guys, so what do you recommend I bump the magpro up to, as I never use more than 2 ml. Just worried I'll have too much phosphorous in my tank. HB I'll switch up my first few weeks to 5 ml Protekt, 2 ml grow, 8 ml bloom, 1 ml of magpro, that sound good? Hydroton, ebb and flow 6 times a day. Thanks!
 

homebrewer

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Thanks guys, so what do you recommend I bump the magpro up to, as I never use more than 2 ml. Just worried I'll have too much phosphorous in my tank. HB I'll switch up my first few weeks to 5 ml Protekt, 2 ml grow, 8 ml bloom, 1 ml of magpro, that sound good? Hydroton, ebb and flow 6 times a day. Thanks!
Sounds pretty solid to me. If you see any yellow leaves, trade out 1ml of bloom for 1ml of grow.
 

bishs

Active Member
quick question.

when do you start using 1-3-2? when stretch has stopped? or when the lights have been turned to 12/12?

so during the stretch could i use mayb foliage pro at 3-1-2 ?
 

homebrewer

Well-Known Member
quick question.

when do you start using 1-3-2? when stretch has stopped? or when the lights have been turned to 12/12?

so during the stretch could i use mayb foliage pro at 3-1-2 ?
I like 1-3-2 during the second half of flower. The ratio of grow-to-bloom isn't an exact science so play around with it and use what works best for you.

HB,

Do you think that you could look at my plant problems. https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/493384-what-deficiancy-do-you-think.html

I'm using Dyna Grow and trying to follow your mythologies.

Thanks!!
In your first post you said you've got 4 inch blocks and are flooding once per day for 5 minutes. I think you need to flood more often for a longer period of time. Remember to leach your blocks of salts every few weeks with tap water.
 

fallinprince

Active Member
Hey homebrewer. Ive been awol for a while but i have a new grow style based exactly off of yours. Ive currently got 3 problems
1. ive noticed on top of my 6inch rockwool blocks (that get flooded for 15minutes 2 times a day) chunks of white stuff and patches of green area's.
My tap water is awful 470tds w/chlorine and fluoride). I do own an old container of clearex. But ive been just pouring r/o water over the top of the blocks every 1-2 weeks to try to leech salts w/o any luck

2. Its now winter so my high temps never go above 75 but my lows get down to 61ish will this hurt the plants should i try to figure out how to heat the room while the lights are off?

3. I had a plant outside of my tent of plants in veg herm on me(killed it off 2 weeks early). Can that ruin my crop of veg plants that were growing nearby?
 

Someguy15

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Hey homebrewer. Ive been awol for a while but i have a new grow style based exactly off of yours. Ive currently got 3 problems
1. ive noticed on top of my 6inch rockwool blocks (that get flooded for 15minutes 2 times a day) chunks of white stuff and patches of green area's.
My tap water is awful 470tds w/chlorine and fluoride). I do own an old container of clearex. But ive been just pouring r/o water over the top of the blocks every 1-2 weeks to try to leech salts w/o any luck

2. Its now winter so my high temps never go above 75 but my lows get down to 61ish will this hurt the plants should i try to figure out how to heat the room while the lights are off?

3. I had a plant outside of my tent of plants in veg herm on me(killed it off 2 weeks early). Can that ruin my crop of veg plants that were growing nearby?
1) Salts are just kinda inherent with the blocks. Most people just leave the salt on the top, there's no roots up there anyways to worry about. The rootzone is what matters. The green stuff is alge, buy some block covers, their $5.

2) That's a little on the cool side, you want 77 day for optimal growth. When you get below that you start stunting growth. The plants will tolerate 60 air temp no problem, but I would check you root zone temps. They are much more sensitive. Root zone optimal = 77 (day) 73(night), ideal = 70-80. Anything much below 70 and you can lock out P leading to big problems.

3) As long as you killed him early enough before the pollen was released you will be fine. If not, then it depends on air currents, how much was on you, ect.
 

tenthirty

Well-Known Member
I like 1-3-2 during the second half of flower. The ratio of grow-to-bloom isn't an exact science so play around with it and use what works best for you.


In your first post you said you've got 4 inch blocks and are flooding once per day for 5 minutes. I think you need to flood more often for a longer period of time. Remember to leach your blocks of salts every few weeks with tap water.
So I upped my feeding to twice a day and 7 minutes. The table fills in 3 minutes.
First feeding a 30 minutes after lights on and the second 6 hours later. Should this be ok?

I have the white covers (like panda film) over the rock wool. So when I flush, I purchased a watering wand. Should I just pickup the covers and squirt water into the rock wool? Also how long should I squirt the blocks?

Thanks in advance.
 

lerster

Member
Hi HB,

Im a fairly new to growing 2 1/2 harvest under my belt, after going through all your journals I am switching to DG from AN. I am currently using 3 part AN, Big bud, b-52, bud candy, over drive, and proteckt. I now know how much of a sucker I am to fall into their trap but anyway I wanted to ask for you feed recipe or schedule if you will and all the supps or bennies you are using. I am thinking of getting DG bloom, grow, magpro, proteckt, Great white, and bud candy. I am using 30 gallon rez, ebb and flow, 6 inch rockwools. Can you tell me how many ml per gal i should use? Can I use overdrive with it or big bud? Thanks HB
 

homebrewer

Well-Known Member
So I upped my feeding to twice a day and 7 minutes. The table fills in 3 minutes.
First feeding a 30 minutes after lights on and the second 6 hours later. Should this be ok?
Time will tell, just keep the plants healthy.

I have the white covers (like panda film) over the rock wool. So when I flush, I purchased a watering wand. Should I just pickup the covers and squirt water into the rock wool? Also how long should I squirt the blocks?
That sounds like it should work just fine.


Hi HB,

Im a fairly new to growing 2 1/2 harvest under my belt, after going through all your journals I am switching to DG from AN. I am currently using 3 part AN, Big bud, b-52, bud candy, over drive, and proteckt. I now know how much of a sucker I am to fall into their trap but anyway I wanted to ask for you feed recipe or schedule if you will and all the supps or bennies you are using. I am thinking of getting DG bloom, grow, magpro, proteckt, Great white, and bud candy. I am using 30 gallon rez, ebb and flow, 6 inch rockwools. Can you tell me how many ml per gal i should use? Can I use overdrive with it or big bud? Thanks HB
I think in recent posts, I pretty much go over what my res is made up of in regards to percentages of each product. I would not use big bud or overdrive with DG nutes.
 

lerster

Member
Time will tell, just keep the plants healthy.


That sounds like it should work just fine.




I think in recent posts, I pretty much go over what my res is made up of in regards to percentages of each product. I would not use big bud or overdrive with DG nutes.
Could you please direct to me which page? I am getting lost in a sea of information
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Ok homebrew im pulling a fresh run of clones, and as soon as there rooted up il be fireing up the new nutes!
And doing a full right up on it :)
 

burrr

Well-Known Member
HB, I've got a couple of small plants in veg that have been taking a long time to get happy in their 6" blocks. they exhibit slow growth with red stems. I believe this is from being over watered ( was 3 times for 15 minutes, flooded to the top of the block) I reduced this to twice a day, halfway up the block and things appear to be improving.
Have you ever experienced this red stem condition from over watering RW blocks before?

Grodan mentions on their website that moving a small plant in to a big block can have this stress causing affect, but don't explain what kind of stress it is. what are your thoughts on this? thanks
 

homebrewer

Well-Known Member
Ok homebrew im pulling a fresh run of clones, and as soon as there rooted up il be fireing up the new nutes!
And doing a full right up on it :smile:
Will you be journaling it or at least posting updates in a current thread you have going? I'd love to follow along.



HB, I've got a couple of small plants in veg that have been taking a long time to get happy in their 6" blocks. they exhibit slow growth with red stems. I believe this is from being over watered ( was 3 times for 15 minutes, flooded to the top of the block) I reduced this to twice a day, halfway up the block and things appear to be improving.
Have you ever experienced this red stem condition from over watering RW blocks before?

Grodan mentions on their website that moving a small plant in to a big block can have this stress causing affect, but don't explain what kind of stress it is. what are your thoughts on this? thanks
When I move rooted cuttings into the 6" blocks, I'll flood once per day for 15mins, then 12 hours later, I'll top water them with a pint of res water. That's how I do it for roughly the first 4 days before switching to two floods and no top waterings. My cuttings do not look all that great sometimes when they go into my rockwool blocks. BUT, once those roots get established (usually about a week after they move to rockwool), they explode. They explode almost to a fault though and I've been experimenting with lowering my feeding levels in veg to minimize some stretchy growth.
 
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