You got low water pressure, so it drains most of it and only a little drip comes out filtered. You need an inline pressure boost pump. Run for about $30~$60 on Amazon
Dyna-Gro vs General Hydroponics (Dumpster Grow)
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Tigerpaws
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Actually I had just hooked it up and had a valve open that was supposed to be closed. I just changed the piece of tubing from purple to red also which lessens the waste. My pressure is 100 psi. Actually a bit to high. Thanks for your input!
Mines at 80. 100psi might be a bit high but worst case scenario won't filter it down to 0ppm, instead around 20ppm. Which is still great. Good luck.
Tigerpaws
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Would this apply to a twice or 3 a day feed as well? I'm in 3 gallon coco dtw. I'm trying to come up with a good place to start with all of the DG products on hand.
homebrewer
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With feedings that frequently you may want to dose that back a bit. Maybe 1ml/gal of foliage pro and see how the plants do? If you see a little yellowing down low then increase that dose slightly. 1.5mls/gal?
Tigerpaws
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Thank you!
Tigerpaws
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When using Protekt how do you top off you rez since you are supposed to use it first?Today is day 42 of 60 and earlier in the week I started to notice some nute burn. Dumpster is a heavier feeder and at the suggested feeding rates from DG, Ive kinda felt like Ive been walking the line of leaf-tip burn this whole time. This is ok in my mind as that means Im feeding my girls everything they need, plus a little more. However, while the buds still smell fruity and skunky, squeezing them and smelling my fingers reveals the slightest aroma of earthy-nutrients. With that being said, I may be cutting the nutes back by 10-20% (except ProTekt). Of course this only makes the nutrient line cheaper so Im not complaining. The slight overfeeding may even have contributed to the next issue which was one pH adjustment this week. Ive gotten to the point where I only check the DG pH about every other day and it had dropped to 5.3 on Friday evening. No harm done and a quick adjustment to around 5.8 fixed that. Also, I cut down the amount of grow formula that I was using with the bloom and by doing so, I'm supplying the plants with more phosphorus than possibly needed. This could also be a culprit. Maybe the fix here isn't to dial back, but to go back to my 1/3 grow, 2/3 bloom ratio?
Spider mites? I did find one leaf with mites on it this past week in a res off-camera, but it was also touching a plant fresh from the veg area that had a few mites on it. The dumpster tray continues to be mite-free and I contribute the added resistance to ProTekt.
Resin? Im still thinking there is a slight resin difference between the 2 nutrient lines. That doesnt mean I cant mix-and-match the DG base with some GH additives at some point but it should be noted that products featuring sea kelp or humic/fulvic acids will increase resin production slightly. Does it make a difference in the smoke? We shall see.
Weight? As far as production goes, DG is keeping up with the best of them. The buds are dense as can be and are an appropriate size given their age. As you can see in the picture, theyre starting to lean on one another which is why I have the strings around the tray.
So moving into this next week, Ill be adjusting the nutes a little and monitoring the leaves and how the buds smell. Hopefully at the end of this Ill be able to post a generic schedule for DG. This will of course need tweaked since one round with a line of nutes is hardly enough info to get a good schedule. On the other hand, there are only 3 variables which makes it very easy to tweak.
Resin shots
GH Resin (day 41):
DG Resin (day 42):
Cheers guys!
supdro
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In my experience when I top off the rez it will lower the PH. If I need to raise the PH I usually add protekt I never had any issues with add back
supdro
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Has anyone ran foliage pro thru flower in hydro? How was your experience? Im running an ebb and flow 4x4 table with 60 gallon res. I did a res change yesterday and used mostly pro with 200 ppm of bloom at total 1100ppm or 1.6-7 EC starting ppm of 150. Im sure the mix will keep them green but not wanting too much nitrogen
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Have you tried it in coco? Busy wondering the results.
supdro
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Yes i have does great! Very simple. I ask because the pro has plenty of nitrogen but in flower i want more k. The bloom has too much p for me to use as a lucas formula, so i added pro after bloom. This time i was hi and grabbed the wrong jug first...lol
I've read Homebrewer (and Dyna Gro's CEO on the dude grows show) say that Foliage Pro start to finish is all you need. At least in coco. But I'm wondering about the high amount of Nitrogen. Would like to hear first hand from someone who's tried it start to finish.
homebrewer
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First of all your feeding levels are unnecessarily high. At that level you're just wasting plant food.
I have run FP from start to finish in my flood and drain system. It will grow overly leafy and branchy plants at the cost of some yield. Your best bet is a blend of bloom and grow (or foliage pro) with the majority of the mix being made up of bloom.
Shakenbabies
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I run FP all through flower in flood and drain except like the last week or so. Your ec is really high and your plants are gonna stretch more then they need to. Start out with like a minimum of 1ml/gal of grow (or FP) then add more next res change if you see deficiencies. Try and keep your total ec around 1.2-1.3 throughout your whole cycle.
I use to run high ec like you but like HB says, your just wasting food.
I love it foliage pro, keeps the leaves nice and happy. Listen to HB, that man knows his shit.
supdro
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my water EC starting out like i mentioned is 200 PPM which is .2 or .3 EC so really I'm only running 1.3 EC of nutrients or 900 PPM not really wasting nutrients... I will add some water and bring it down to 1k PPM. I would like to come up with a mix of DG so I can keep my phosphorus low, my nitrogen mild and potassium High
Shakenbabies
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I would aim for a ec of 1.2 total (850ppm using .5 scale) including your tap water. Start around there, I know that sounds low but it works great for me. If I see light yellowing on the lowers, I just bump my FP by .5ml/gal. Gets me fantastic nugs and great yields.
Hope it helps, happy growing.
Hope it helps, happy growing.
Is that mix for hydro or should I follow it for coco as well?
homebrewer
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I only add Bloom to the mix in my flood and drain hydro tables.
