Dyna-Gro vs General Hydroponics (Dumpster Grow)

homebrewer said:

For this particular grow, I vegged with GH nutes and am using the DG line for flowering. While vegging is an important stage in the growth process, I've found that I can get good results vegging with just about any nutrient out there. Your plant's needs during veg seem to be minimal and for me, the flowering stage is where a high quality nute line is key as that is when deficiencies and excess often occur. I just happen to use GH and botanicare for veg in this case.

Off camera here, I am also testing to see how DG nutes work with floralicious plus and possibly sweet. I'm not saying they're needed but if I have those products that I know I already like sitting around, might as well test them too. I have a feeling at the end that the DynaGro line will at least replace my Grow, Micro, and Bloom nutes from GH for the sheer fact that DG's pH stability makes my life a lot easier.

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DG is less exspensive also rite? you dont fuck around with soil do you?

Dyna-gro works great in soil too. I feed it to my mothers.

Ah Ok I got it.
Totally understandable on the pH point. Not having to adjust the pH was one of the reasons I purchased Adv Nut. and after more and more reading I've just discovered that only a certain line from Adv Nut. has pH perfect. Not the SenSi line that's for f@#king sure!!
I guess even if the DG line doesn't produce the same buds on it's own there are choice additives to add from the many vendors. So the Dg can always be supplemented like your doing with the floralicious, but at least no more fucking drop drop drop pH adjustin'.

I will be vegging for at least another week, hopefully 2. That should give me some time to sit back and await your feedback..


Ciao,
Pure...

RastaMonsta said:

DG is less exspensive also rite? you dont fuck around with soil do you?

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If at the end of this comparison I find that the DG products can replace my entire GH line, then yes, DG is half the cost. But if I find that products like sweet, floraBlend and floralicious make enough of a difference that I'd want to keep some of them around, the cost could be about equal. The DG products that I'm using right now would allow me to get rid of Grow, Micro, Bloom, KoolBloom liquid and dry. Cost is hard to determine at this moment as final yield definitely plays a role. Yielding more with one brand at an equal cost makes that brand more efficient. I will say this though, DG is cheaper for veg, no doubt about that. And yes, I do mess around in the dirt and use Pure Blend pro products from Botanicare (dumpster plant below just harvested out of the dirt using PureBlend nutes). Next month I'll be testing DG in the dirt.

HomeBrewer,
You and the other experienced growers on RIU just blow me away with the healthy look of your plants.

Simply beautiful my friend

Namaste'

HB, Man this is soo ridiculously educational! I was completely dumbfounded while trying to figure out what nutes to purchase for my first grow. By chance you answered my question in the noob section a few weeks ago and from there I stumble onto your comparison.

Its good to see that you not only suggested for me to try DG because of the amount of hands off... you are also showing what DG can do. I'm sold! I really like the cost factor along with your posted results.

These are the AK47's being grown with the GH line of nutes and I believe today is day 36 for them. Top-to-bottom, I couldn't ask them to be any greener and that is one of the reasons that I like 'multiple base formula' flowering lines. A small tweak here and there really allows you to cater to the plant's needs. As I mentioned in a previous post, I am using the DG grow and Bloom during the flowering period and I believe that is the best route in order to get the girls enough nitrogen during flowering. Currently I have some AK47s being grown with a 50/50 mix of DG's bloom and grow (resulting in an NPK ratio of 1-2-1) and the plants look outstanding. I'm also using floralicious plus on that grow and when they're done, I'll revisit this thread for a comparison. The pics below will be the benchmark if you will. As always, the GH res needs pH adjusted at least 3 days per week but the end result is worth the extra effort.


EDIT: I should also add that this strain is the best smelling strain that I've ever come across. Maybe those of you who have grown AK47 before can chime in as to if this is normal or not, but this particular pheno has a sweet grapefruit and ginger smell. Just intoxicating.

hb, are you using co2 at all? How important is it to add it into the flowering stage? For my first grow I am thinking of attempting it but I'm a tad intimidated. Not sure if I should try one of those bucket systems are just bare down and buy a tank.

nixusr said:

hb, are you using co2 at all? How important is it to add it into the flowering stage? For my first grow I am thinking of attempting it but I'm a tad intimidated. Not sure if I should try one of those bucket systems are just bare down and buy a tank.

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I've never grown in a sealed room and therefore have never been able to add additional CO2. Personally, I think CO2 is the last thing a grower should add after everything else is dialed in. There are many basic skills like feeding, watering, cloning, pest control and providing the right environment that growers seem to always have problems with. I just think that the air we breathe already provides enough CO2 in order for our girls to yield big and yield a showcase-quality product. If I was growing in a closet or an area where CO2 could be depleted at some point, I'd just add an intake and exhaust fan. Just my two cents.

homebrewer said:

I've never grown in a sealed room and therefore have never been able to add additional CO2. Personally, I think CO2 is the last thing a grower should add after everything else is dialed in. There are many basic skills like feeding, watering, cloning, pest control and providing the right environment that growers seem to always have problems with. I just think that the air we breathe already provides enough CO2 in order for our girls to yield big and yield a showcase-quality product. If I was growing in a closet or an area where CO2 could be depleted at some point, I'd just add an intake and exhaust fan. Just my two cents.

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Awesome! Thank you for dropping science! I will save the $$ this time around and just put energy into the basics.

What kinda of light do you have above the dumpster in soil? 600w? are you getting close to the gpw with soil also?

RastaMonsta said:

What kinda of light do you have above the dumpster in soil? 600w? are you getting close to the gpw with soil also?

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I run 9 plants under a 600hps and yield an average of 2 oz per plant. Some plants directly under the light will be 3 ounces, maybe one on the outside yields 1.5 ounces, it varies. I don't really keep track as the dirt area is perpetual with strains that flower longer or shorter than others. In all honesty, the dirt area is more of just spill-over from taking too many clones to grow in my hydro trays. I like dirt but I find hydro to be easier, more consistent, and simple to dial-in.

Your plants are all looking amazing homebrew! I'm liking what I see with the DynaGro products, the pH stabilization and increased protection from bugs is always an added bonus!
Thanks for sharing your experiment and information with us!

Good stuff I'll be watching this one. I was having a hard time deciding between lucas and dyna-gro. Ended up with lucas, wish id gone with dyna. I definitly will next go around not only for the extra micros it provides but ph stability and the pro-tek helps prevent mites, iam sold. I haven't encountered any problems using lucas iam going to switch for the reasons stated. Might even be cheaper as Homebrew said. We wnat know until the end, I can't wait.

Great thread

Peace and good vibes

homebrewer said:

I run 9 plants under a 600hps and yield an average of 2 oz per plant. Some plants directly under the light will be 3 ounces, maybe one on the outside yields 1.5 ounces, it varies. I don't really keep track as the dirt area is perpetual with strains that flower longer or shorter than others. In all honesty, the dirt area is more of just spill-over from taking too many clones to grow in my hydro trays. I like dirt but I find hydro to be easier, more consistent, and simple to dial-in.

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As much as I love soil grows, I'd have to say the biggest stress it has brought me in the past is it's high susceptability to flies & insects. I've purchased premium soils stored indoors, continuously used organic insecticides & fly traps, and I still found myself having to clear the room at times and do a 4 hour fog. Never had bug problems like that with hydro, as many of them cannot reproduce if they don't have a soil enviornment to burrow into & lay eggs.

Girs are looking good ... I look forward to seeing them all finished!

sub`d. i also do this as a job. testing products. will follow along and hopefully learn here.

Im in ,,,,,,,,,

ready for my weeklly update

RastaMonsta said:

ready for my weeklly update

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Hit Me HB!