Early harvest?

AndromedaM31

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Well obviously this plant is fucked up.
All 3 of them are going down hill, but the one pictures is by far the worst.
All the damage you see has accumulated over only 2 days from lively green leafs.
Seems like some severe calcium deficiency along with a a fee others so I'm assuming it has to be lockout since it happened so rapidly.
Another plant had been showing brown spots for 2 or 3 weeks so idk if it's related.
I'm sure its gonna die here soon cause it's not getting better after a few attempts to correct it, and with it taking out leafs so rapidly.
So how far should I push it till I harvest it?
Wait till it's dead? Close to dead? Or sooner?
If it keeps at the rate it's going, it will probably lose every single leaf by next week.
Hopefully I can save the other 2, even though their both quite a bit smaller than this one
 

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Thundercat

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I really think you should ride this out. I know it sucks but your not gonna get shit if you cut them now. If you can ride through another 2-3 weeks you might still get an ok harvest.

Does your medium ever dry out? I can't remember if we've talked about that. If your medium is staying to wet it can cause major issues.

At this point based on what we've talked about before. I'm inclined to suggest flushing with 5.8-6.0 ph water to treat it more like coco since your "soil" is mostly peatmoss. Then feed them at the same ph and cross your fingers. Hopefully that will reset your mediums ph and nutrient levels.

The damage that is done is done, but you might be able to limp them through a few more weeks to a harvest.
 
AndromedaM31

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Well the question I'm asking doesnt really involve much examination of them.
Just like at what point should I harvest since it see.s pretty inevitable that their gonna die.
I think I may have just found a sign on bud rot too... not positive though
Sorry I'm not around the tent so I cant take any better pics right now.
(This is a tiny bud that was more of a "sucker", and lost almost every single leaf to the issue)
Is the brown spot lower center a start of bud rot?
 

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AndromedaM31

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Some of the worst I've ever seen, even online lol
I think I got the ph back to normal for the other 2, but thslis one just seems way out of whack
 
Bernie420

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AndromedaM31 said:
Well the question I'm asking doesnt really involve much examination of them.
Just like at what point should I harvest since it see.s pretty inevitable that their gonna die.
I think I may have just found a sign on bud rot too... not positive though
Sorry I'm not around the tent so I cant take any better pics right now.
(This is a tiny bud that was more of a "sucker", and lost almost every single leaf to the issue)
Is the brown spot lower center a start of bud rot?
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not bud rot looks more like where you picked a leaf off.

Plant look like it had a problem with the phosphorous and mag at one point. You need to reflect on what happened, overwatered and jacked up the roots or nutes or the ratio being wrong at the wrong time, Fed it too hot for a few times maybe. You need to remember that if you use synthetic nutes what hits the roots gets absorbed if its hot that will burn up the plant. How that works it is no different than hydro thats a reason you water in at 6.5. Then in soil the microbes take over and adjust the ph on the root surface or generaly speaking in nature the microbes breaks down all the organic stuff and its the microbes that actually feed the plants, the plant tells the microbes what its hungry for.

Like the others said flush your pots really good renute with the nutes at about 550-575 ppms and add epsom salt to about 650-675 ppms. 1gr per gallon of epsom salt is 100 pms i think. Add microbes to this if you dont have microbes go get some.

Pik off all the dead shitty leaves to get light on any good leaf and for air circulation. Plus when something like this happens to me I think the plant likes getting rid of the shitty leaves so it doesnt have to mess with it and it can get back to what it was doing beforehand.
 
AndromedaM31

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Bernie420 said:
not bud rot looks more like where you picked a leaf off.

Plant look like it had a problem with the phosphorous and mag at one point. You need to reflect on what happened, overwatered and jacked up the roots or nutes or the ratio being wrong at the wrong time, Fed it too hot for a few times maybe. You need to remember that if you use synthetic nutes what hits the roots gets absorbed if its hot that will burn up the plant. How that works it is no different than hydro thats a reason you water in at 6.5. Then in soil the microbes take over and adjust the ph on the root surface or generaly speaking in nature the microbes breaks down all the organic stuff and its the microbes that actually feed the plants, the plant tells the microbes what its hungry for.

Like the others said flush your pots really good renute with the nutes at about 550-575 ppms and add epsom salt to about 650-675 ppms. 1gr per gallon of epsom salt is 100 pms i think. Add microbes to this if you dont have microbes go get some.

Pik off all the dead shitty leaves to get light on any good leaf and for air circulation. Plus when something like this happens to me I think the plant likes getting rid of the shitty leaves so it doesnt have to mess with it and it can get back to what it was doing beforehand.
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Thanks for the reply.
But no there haven't been any sort of nutrient problems, or any problems at all until these last about 2 weeks. Then I got some brown spots, and some leaf clawing a bit.
And then 3 days ago things just went straight downhill with these issues.
Everytime issues showed up was after giving flower feed. And understandable cause my flowet nut4s keep lowering my ph to 4
, and it takes over 20ml per gallon of ph up to raise it to 6. Which would probably kill the plants on thier own. But from what I'm told organic nutrients dont need to be ph adjusted so o never bothered with it. (Not able to even if I was suppose to because of the amount of ph up required.)
But apprantly the organic nutrients arent buffering in the soil properly so now here I am with lockout.
The one plant went from lush green, to brown leafs everywhere overnight, the day after giving their first full dose of flower feed.
And I'm not kidding when I say, everytime i gave them flower feed, I noticed negative effects within a couple days.
So I'm just worried that if i flush them, i have no quality flowering nutes to provide them, and they'll end up being In the same boat as they are.
What if I watered with a ph of like 8 or 8.5?
Would an attempt like that possibly correct the ph?
 
AndromedaM31

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But guys, it really doesnt seem like the one Is going to make it more than a week.
At what point should I harvest it?
Will it get ruined if it dies before I harvest it?
Want to make sure they get as much time as they possibly can before they get chopped down
 
AndromedaM31

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And also no watering and no overfeeding.
Have only fed a few times throughout the whole thing.
Underwatered 1 time, just 1 day too late. Started drooping but were back to normal in about an hour.
Other than that, I've done light nutrient feeding a few times. 1 full dose
 
Bernie420

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AndromedaM31 said:
But guys, it really doesnt seem like the one Is going to make it more than a week.
At what point should I harvest it?
Will it get ruined if it dies before I harvest it?
Want to make sure they get as much time as they possibly can before they get chopped down
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What nutes are you using ,,,organic?
You have a microbe product that you like to use?

It'll make it more than a week.
I said what I would do. that still applies but its up to you if you do or dont do anything.
 
Bernie420

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AndromedaM31 said:
And also no watering and no overfeeding.
Have only fed a few times throughout the whole thing.
Underwatered 1 time, just 1 day too late. Started drooping but were back to normal in about an hour.
Other than that, I've done light nutrient feeding a few times. 1 full dose
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sounds like the classic I under fed my plants and when they went into flower all the good stuff got sucked out of it now my plants look like shit.
 
Bernie420

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Oh your ph thing you got the drops or a pen I remember you i think. Dont check ph run off. This what you do get your water add your nutes check the ph with the drops. Add ph up or down as needed mix well mix well again check the ph with the drops. When you add the up or down only add a very little so you dont get crazy swings and keep adding the opposite of what you added the first time.
 
AndromedaM31

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Yeah I guess I'm going to flush em tonight
But I cant give them flower nutes cause like I said, they lower my ph to under 4, and I'm sure that 40ml of ph up will damage them even worse
 
Bernie420

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AndromedaM31 said:
Yeah I guess I'm going to flush em tonight
But I cant give them flower nutes cause like I said, they lower my ph to under 4, and I'm sure that 40ml of ph up will damage them even worse
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Whats the starting ppm and ph of your water source and check it (both ph and ppm) after you add an item to your water till you figure out why that is happening. Mix extremely well each time.

Your ph dropping like that is unusual as in = you have a ph meter that is jacked up. Get the drops use the drops then you can figure out why. And having a ppm meter is a must have if you want to be consistent with your dosage.

What nutes again are you using?
 
Thundercat

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Why do you think the ph up will hurt the plant? I've never heard of that happening. I could be wrong here but having the correct ph is the important part.

Also last time you said it took 20ml to get it to 6.0.
 
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