My plant is now entering its 2nd week above soil. I want to start giving her nutes next week (is that too early?). I'm pretty limited I'm my resources so I was wondering what good organic nutes can be used during the veg cycle that I would be able to pick up from say home depot or lowes?
Easy to find Organic nutes for veg?
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Nullis
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There really isn't a large selection of quality organic nutrients\plant foods for Cannabis at a home improvement store. They don't sell liquid nutrients (which many find more convenient) or most of the brands people discuss here. But, there actually is an excellent brand of dry granular organic plant food made by the Espoma company which is very widely available. Look for any of the Espoma "-Tone" products, especially Bio-Tone Starter Plus. You can mix these dry plant foods into your medium prior to a transplant, or top-dress with them. These are complete organic plant foods but keep in mind that they are really to prevent deficiencies in the first place and if you have any upon application it may take several days to resolve.
Jack Harer
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Home Depot and Lowes both sell the Espoma Line of organic nutes. www.espoma.com BEST bang for your buck, hands down. Locally available and inexpensive, BioTone or PlantTone will get ya, but organic nutes should be mixed into the soil at the start. They can be top dressed, but remember that they are slow release and depend on bacterial/fungal action for them to decompose into a plant usable form.
Shit Nullis, you must have posted as I was typing!! Actually, the Tones are complete nutrients, not just to correct deficiencies. I've used the BioTone starter plus, and the BulbTone all the way thru both phases in the beginning of my growing experience!! Great stuff, I highly recommend the line!!
Shit Nullis, you must have posted as I was typing!! Actually, the Tones are complete nutrients, not just to correct deficiencies. I've used the BioTone starter plus, and the BulbTone all the way thru both phases in the beginning of my growing experience!! Great stuff, I highly recommend the line!!
ibitegirls
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so there isn't a hydro shop near you? thats strange...
Jack Harer
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Yes EWC would be a good to too dress as well, but again, these organic ferts are slow, so don't expect immediate results.
tusseltussel
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I drive 3 hrs. to get to the hydro shop and its worth it. I just stock up when I am there. 2 bales of soil a couple bottles of nutes. I go once a year.
BeaverHuntr
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Make a compost tea with stuff you can buy from the local nursery.. Alfalfa, Earth Worm Castings , Molasses ... bubble that in a bucket for 24 hours and feed/water your plants..
BeaverHuntr
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I dont use my PH / PPM meter with organics and I was a hydro guy for years .. I'm pretty new to the organics grow game but I'm coming up on my second harvest around Valentines day..
For veg I been using compost tea that consists of a couple handfuls of EWC, 1/2 cup alfalfa meal , 1/2 cup Kelp meal , 50 ML of Hi Brix Molasses I bubble in R/O water for 24 - 48 hours using about 4 gallons of water in a 5 gallon bucket..Then you just soil drench your plants like you would with just water.. Top dressing takes a few weeks to break down like some of the guys mentions.. With a compost tea that shit is available to the plants immediately. The only time I ever saw nute burn was when I was using too much alfalfa meal.. I was using like 2 cups and was told to cut that shit back to 1/2 cup..
Bud Brewer
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Alfalfa from a pet store for like 6 bucks lasts for ever and works great npk of 5-3 1 2 perfect for MJ.
I put two cups of water in a blender a capfull/tbs apple cider vinegar, a b-complex vitamin, a salmon oil cap, a tbs molasses, a tsp epsom salt half a teaspoon of aquarium sea salt then I keep adding alfalfa hay into the blender and blend till I have 3 cups total in the blender one being alfalfa. Then pour into a gallon milk jug wash out the blender but put all of it in the gallon jug then fill but leave an inch or more for it to ferment shake every day don't cap it tight.
It can be used right away but much better if fermented for a couple of weeks it will get nice and stinky but then mellow a bit with low ph then use 1-4 cup of the concentrate to a gallon.
I also do the same thing with shake leaf, oatmeal. coffee or earth worm casings just shake up the concentrate really good so some sediment is in every cup so there isn't much left at the end it can be used as top dressing it works great the oatmeal and EWC are balanced NPK for late flowering and as a change during veg the others are high nitrogen.
I use more alfalfa for most of my feeding because of the growth hormones, with these set concentrates you can feed every time adjusting the strength as the plant gets bigger.
Also I have given milk 2 tbs to a gallon it is a balanced npk for flower.
I put two cups of water in a blender a capfull/tbs apple cider vinegar, a b-complex vitamin, a salmon oil cap, a tbs molasses, a tsp epsom salt half a teaspoon of aquarium sea salt then I keep adding alfalfa hay into the blender and blend till I have 3 cups total in the blender one being alfalfa. Then pour into a gallon milk jug wash out the blender but put all of it in the gallon jug then fill but leave an inch or more for it to ferment shake every day don't cap it tight.
It can be used right away but much better if fermented for a couple of weeks it will get nice and stinky but then mellow a bit with low ph then use 1-4 cup of the concentrate to a gallon.
I also do the same thing with shake leaf, oatmeal. coffee or earth worm casings just shake up the concentrate really good so some sediment is in every cup so there isn't much left at the end it can be used as top dressing it works great the oatmeal and EWC are balanced NPK for late flowering and as a change during veg the others are high nitrogen.
I use more alfalfa for most of my feeding because of the growth hormones, with these set concentrates you can feed every time adjusting the strength as the plant gets bigger.
Also I have given milk 2 tbs to a gallon it is a balanced npk for flower.
BeaverHuntr
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Anywhere from 2-3 weeks they say... Go compost tea and its ready right after brewing ( usually 24 hours) all it takes is a bucket some water , air stones / air pump and some cheap ass shit you can get at a nursery.. I hardly go to hydro stores these days..
Jack Harer
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Did you start out with any nutes in the soil at all? Guanos, EWC, Meals (kelp, blood) are gonna give a bit faster results than say grrensand or rock phosphate All organics rely on either leaching or bacterial/fungal action to make the nutrients in them available to the plant. I have PMed links to my cloud drive. In there you will find these Books in PDF: A) Organics for Dummies (no offense), B)Teeming with Microbes, and C) The Compost Tea Brewers Manual. READ them. I can't think of anything not covered there.
BeaverHuntr
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^^^^ What a nice guy!
Bud Brewer
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Alfalfa npk is 5 to 3 n, 1 p, 2 k
It works good
It works good