ebb and flow reservoir size

yeah but htg doesn't have the 400/600.............

if you are into that.. the go for it mate...

I guarantee you will use that 600 as often as you can... it WILL give you better buds...

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Just remind me that you ARE ventilating this op properly... with at least a 4" centrifugal fan for the light and a 6" centrifugal fan for exhaust... and that you can maintain 75F ambient outside your tent...

maybe i will just go with a 400w lumatek. i am using a squirrel cage fan...

should be fine...

you just don;t want those duct boosters...

haha yeah i'm staying away from them

ok so i think i'm going to get the cap nextgen 400/600. and then buy the cooltube and bulbs maybe from high tech garden. do i need a seperate 400 and 600 bulb? or can i just get a 600 watter and run it on the 400 setting?

if i do get it i think it will be from here http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/cap-400w-or-600w-nextgen-90v260v-electronic-ballast-p-2494.html

200 plus 10 bucks for shipping.

actually they don't do discreet shipping so maybe i will get it from nehydro.com

ForcedInduction said:

ok so i think i'm going to get the cap nextgen 400/600. and then buy the cooltube and bulbs maybe from high tech garden. do i need a seperate 400 and 600 bulb? or can i just get a 600 watter and run it on the 400 setting?

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You need the appropriate size bulb...

...

Didn't you say the Lumateks were "dimm-able"...

You may be able to get the same "effect" as the dual wattage with only one bulb...

But I have no idea how well those work.... or the downside of the dimmer...

ForcedInduction said:

if i do get it i think it will be from here http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/cap-400w-or-600w-nextgen-90v260v-electronic-ballast-p-2494.html

200 plus 10 bucks for shipping.

actually they don't do discreet shipping so maybe i will get it from nehydro.com

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I would make sure to order via phone when you do...

Get the name of the person helping you.. that way, you are a "known" costumer... not just some internet order number...

that's just me though...

well i have it all set up with 8 gallons in the res now. i will prob use 10 for flowering.

but i can't seem to get the last half inch of water to drain out.

ok, i can not for the life of me get this thing to drain compeletly....will i get bad root rot if theres some water left at the bottom?

I haven't used ebb and flow much but I don't think still sitting water is good

ForcedInduction said:

ok, i can not for the life of me get this thing to drain compeletly....will i get bad root rot if theres some water left at the bottom?

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well i just adjusted my PH for the first time. it came out of the tap at 6.0 tonight i checked it and it was at 6.5 so i brought it back down to 6.

my ec is at 1.6 or 800 ppm. which scale do i use for ppm on my bluelab? there is one that says ECx500 and one that says ECx700

it is a really nice meter, i already dropped it in the tank once lol

OK...

Stop everything...

I'm confused...

Let's go back to square one...... sorry...

so..

you are doing ebb flow...

and using that cooler as your water res...

and that "sink" lines with plastic as a tray...

Did I get it right so far?

..

all right..

so now?

I dunno... maybe it's just me.. and about a dozen other people here..

But I think your tray should have POTS filled with hydroton...

Not the whole tray filled like that...


For many reasons...

you can move the plants is probably the best...

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5" pots have more than enough room for roots bro..

Save yourself the hassle... make it easy... use pots...

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Now...

THAT is going to be a NICE FUCKING LOLLIPOP under a 400w HPS...

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And as for...

Originally Posted by ForcedInduction
ok, i can not for the life of me get this thing to drain compeletly....will i get bad root rot if theres some water left at the bottom?

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Standing water is not desirable... it invites growies...

That is why I switched from DIY to BOTANICARE trays... ... for the exact reason...

If you have pots though... you can set something under each pot to elevate it slightly above the standing water...

But be ready to fight the pathogens...



and....

well i just adjusted my PH for the first time. it came out of the tap at 6.0 tonight i checked it and it was at 6.5 so i brought it back down to 6.

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The smaller the res.. the faster the changes happen..

my ec is at 1.6 or 800 ppm. which scale do i use for ppm on my bluelab? there is one that says ECx500 and one that says ECx700...it is a really nice meter, i already dropped it in the tank once lol

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I flower at 1400PPM.. but my meter is in ppm... I don't have to convert anything..

I also like that the probes never dry out, as they live in the res.... it's a hanna grocheck continuous ppm/ph meter...

GypsyBush said:

OK...

Stop everything...

I'm confused...

Let's go back to square one...... sorry...

so..

you are doing ebb flow...

and using that cooler as your water res...

and that "sink" lines with plastic as a tray...

Did I get it right so far?

..

all right..

so now?

I dunno... maybe it's just me.. and about a dozen other people here..

But I think your tray should have POTS filled with hydroton...

Not the whole tray filled like that...


For many reasons...

you can move the plants is probably the best...

...

5" pots have more than enough room for roots bro..

Save yourself the hassle... make it easy... use pots...

..


Now...

THAT is going to be a NICE FUCKING LOLLIPOP under a 400w HPS...




And as for...




Standing water is not desirable... it invites growies...

That is why I switched from DIY to BOTANICARE trays... ... for the exact reason...

If you have pots though... you can set something under each pot to elevate it slightly above the standing water...

But be ready to fight the pathogens...



and....

The smaller the res.. the faster the changes happen..

I flower at 1400PPM.. but my meter is in ppm... I don't have to convert anything..

I also like that the probes never dry out, as they live in the res.... it's a hanna grocheck continuous ppm/ph meter...

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yes i'm using the cooler as my res. it has 8 gallons now but i will use 10-12 during flowering.
yes the aluminum tray is lined with plastic. it actually is sealed up really nice

i think i am going to put a couple airstones in the bottom of the pan and run them 24/7 will that solve the standing water problem?

i may switch to pots but i only have 8 of them...i would have to place another order which i dont want to do, and i kind of like having the tray filled up with hydroton, i'm going to stick as many plants as i can in there.

as for the lollipop, its a lot bigger now! its under my 70w hps

my meter reads EC, CF, PPMx500 and PPMx700

idk which scale to use lol

ForcedInduction said:

yes i'm using the cooler as my res. it has 8 gallons now but i will use 10-12 during flowering.
yes the aluminum tray is lined with plastic. it actually is sealed up really nice

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All right.. glad to hear it worked out well...

i think i am going to put a couple airstones in the bottom of the pan and run them 24/7 will that solve the standing water problem?

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Well.. you could...

But if you used pots, you could just set on inside the other.. or on top of a dish... anything to get the roots out of the standing water...

i may switch to pots but i only have 8 of them...i would have to place another order which i dont want to do

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Dude... get some 2 liter coke bottles...

They make nice pots...

, and i kind of like having the tray filled up with hydroton, i'm going to stick as many plants as i can in there.

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If I was going to tell you to listen to good advice when it comes your way.. this would be a good time...

Use pots.... solid pots.. not net pots...

There is a saying the we can see farther because we stando on the shoulders of giants...

Well... it's been tried... pots work best...

You can try it... but I guarantee you that 2 years from now you will be using pots...

Use the knowledge of those that tried before you...

They already wasted their time on that test so you don;t have to...

..

Just a thought bro...

but I say go with pots...

as for the lollipop, its a lot bigger now! its under my 70w hps

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You will be amazed...

I have had lollies from my 600 weigh more than 1oz dried and cured...

my meter reads EC, CF, PPMx500 and PPMx700

idk which scale to use lol

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I have no idea...

That is a good question for NewGrowth...

I'll ask him...

But I would go with the one that reads the highest just to be safe...

Do not over fert bro... you will loose all the way to harvest...

a little under is TONS better than a little over...

But I'll ask NG..

GypsyBush said:

All right.. glad to hear it worked out well...



Well.. you could...

But if you used pots, you could just set on inside the other.. or on top of a dish... anything to get the roots out of the standing water...



Dude... get some 2 liter coke bottles...

They make nice pots...




If I was going to tell you to listen to good advice when it comes your way.. this would be a good time...

Use pots.... solid pots.. not net pots...

There is a saying the we can see farther because we stando on the shoulders of giants...

Well... it's been tried... pots work best...

You can try it... but I guarantee you that 2 years from now you will be using pots...

Use the knowledge of those that tried before you...

They already wasted their time on that test so you don;t have to...

..

Just a thought bro...

but I say go with pots...



You will be amazed...

I have had lollies from my 600 weigh more than 1oz dried and cured...



I have no idea...

That is a good question for NewGrowth...

I'll ask him...

But I would go with the one that reads the highest just to be safe...

Do not over fert bro... you will loose all the way to harvest...

a little under is TONS better than a little over...

But I'll ask NG..

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wellll i guess its settled...i'm switching to pots lol. now to just gather up some 2 liter bottles....

i can't wait to get ounces from one plant.. i will be veryy amazed, and high. i'm not high at all tonight.. i'm trying to saver the 7g's i got from my last harvest....lol

i have been reading that most people use the PPMx700 but it would be better to find out for sure.

i've been trying to figure out the lucas formula.. i definitly don't want to over nute

NG will get back to me and I will let you know...

I gave him this link so he may just pop in here...

He really knows his shit...

thanks gypsy, i really appreciate it

man i cant wait for my new light