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ok guys, i found this on another forum, sorry if its already being covered here but i havent seen it...
what do you guys think? i`m going to give it a go i think and see what happens.
We are continuing this conversation over at the Fractal Culture forums. Feel free to drop by and help out, only the opening post has been recreated. I think you'll also like the forum topics a lot
. Here is the link: http://www.fractalculture.com/experi...aic-cells.html
Hello mates, thought it's time for me to tell you a little bit more about a somewhat "shady" technique I've been using in my grows.
Like in my other thread, concerning ultrasonic frequencies, I'd like to point out that it is your responsibility to use the information given here wisely, and be extra cautious so that you wont stress or damage your plants. Be gentle.
Also, I'd like to point out that I'm no technical expert. My knowledge about electricity and technical issues is confined within the area of my growing necessities. I know what I know through experimentation, and working with my plants.
So I'd like to suggest to anyone who has a better knowledge than me about any of the things mentioned below, to give their 2c here. This is still experimental for me. There is a lot of room for improvement.
Things you will be able to do after reading this:
i)Achieve a higher seed germination rate
ii)Boost your seedlings' growth, as well as their survivability
iii)Achieve an increase on the growth of your plants as high as TWICE the growth you had
untill now, depending on the lighting that you provide for them. And I'm not trying to be funny.
iv)Be able to grow plants with the same results as before, but with just a fraction of the lighting you previously used.
Electrical root stimulation is no news for the worldwide commercial cropping research dudes. The effects of electricity on plants have been explored before. The thing is, though, that no source of power can be expected to replace sunlight. When electrical root stimulation is used on plants that have all the sunlight they need, the results are barely noticeable.
Bear with me, I'm getting somewhere.
On the other hand, the effects observed on electrically stimulated plants that were grown under artificial lighting, were nothing less than humbling. A growth rate of twice the magnitute of the control plant population was observed, and the total plant mass nearly doubled.
Now, I haven't experimented for that long with this technique, mates, but so far, it seems to me that the less light the plants have, the more benefit they get from the electrical stimulation. It's no big deal growing a plant in a closet with minimum lighting, if you supplement its growth with this technique. Lets dwelve a bit into the specifics of plant energy absorbtion.
Plants metabolise the nutrients they take through root or foliar intake, using energy they get from light, through a process called photosynthesis. No news for you, I'm sure.
Now, a plant's leaf acts as a solar panel, absorbing light with an absorbtion rate of just 0.1%. Light, is converted into the desirable form of energy inside the plant.
It seems logical that if we supplement the amount of energy a plant is taking, we will help it achieve the desired results. This is just one side of the coin, though.
There is another theory of why mild electrical stimulation helps a plant's growth. Roor growth. I haven't been able to test this myself yet, but, since the connection between a plant's root mass and its upper body is a widely accepted fact, it seems right that if we stimulate the growth of the roots, the upper plant mass will follow.
If that is the case, then electricity is beneficial for the root system, and has nothing to do with the amount of energy a plant uses for metabolism.
Whatever the case may be, mates, the effects of electricity on plants is an easily observable fact. Let's see how you can implement such a system yourself.
DIY - Its as easy as it gets!
You're gonna need a source of mild electrical current. In my oppinion, its better not to mess with batteries and such, since they are expendable, and contain chemicals which could be released in your soil and ruin your plants.
Instead, we'll use Photovoltaic Cells. What better than green energy for our plants? A photovoltaic cell, much like a leaf, converts ligh energy into electricity. Unlike leaves though, PV cells do a much better job, converting a staggering 12% of the light they take into electrical current.
Have you ever seen one of these outdoor lamps for gardens, that don't need batteries? They're sold almost everywhere! They have a small PV cell on the top, recharging them during the day, and they use that energy at night. Pretty cool.
Lets go grab ourselves one of these gadgets. They're not expensive at all. I get mine for about 5-6$ each. If you know some other way of obtaining a small PV cell, as I'm sure some of you do, that will be also ok.
What you want to do now, is bring out your destructive isnticts, grab yourself some tools, and open this fucker up. Careful, don't break the PV cell. Just start unscrewing everything untill you're left with a small square black cell, about 2x2 inches, with two electrodes coming from it.
This is your artificial leaf. All you have to do now is just stick it in your planting pot, one electrode from each side of your plant's main stem, and bend it a bit so that it's facing the light. That's it!
Now, you might be thinking, ok, so how do I know that this little fucker is not gonna burn my plants up, stress the fuck out of them, or cause some evil unthinkable disaster, like making my soil acidic as hell, or crystalising the salts in it, or who knows what else?
Well, mates, all you have to do to test this is experiment. Its that simple. You don't need to perform your experiments with your plants, just go get yourself a couple of wild weeds from your back yard, or a couple of tomato plants or something similar.
Put both plants in a place where they get the same amount of light, and stick your PV cell in one of their pots. Obviously you don't want them to be in the same pot.
Try to simulate the lighting that your cannabis plants are taking. If you can put the test plants inside, with a fluoro on them, or close to your cannabis plants, that would be even better.
Remember, the less light they get, the more difference your cell will do.
After about 10 days-2 weeks you will begin seing the first results. If your results are similar to the ones of my epxerience, you can expect some pretty amazing impact from the PV cell. After about 30 days, you can expect the stimulated plant to have almost double the size of the other.
Another experiment you can do is on seed germination. Just stick a PV cell on a container where some of your seeds are germinating, and leave the rest in another container without electricity. You can expect about 30-35% increase in germination rate. Talk about some good results!
There may be many other possible uses for this interesting technique. Be creative. Try to find new ways of using this. Search the internet. All the information I have found for this technique and a few others came from the net through many hours of searching and reading.
Also, keep in mind that I do not provide this info as solid truths. These are things that work for me. You have to epxeriment for yourself, and actually do some work, if you want to achieve the desirable effects.
Do not come to me afterwards telling me how you burned your crop because you thought providing more electricity would be better.
Do not come to me afterwards telling how you messed up your flowering cycle because you left the PV cell sticked in your soil during the dark hours, and the results where unpredictable. Do not invoke Dug's Wrath.
Experiment, mates. There are many things we do not know about the way our plants grow and thrive, and the only way to find out is experiment. Don't be afraid to try new things, radical ideas, and phunny thoughts.
If each one of us uses his/her creativity to push the borders of our knowledge a little further, we'll pretty soon reach new plateaus of growing efficiency.
Again, don't take my word for it, you don't have to believe me. Just try! I'm sure you won't be dissapointed!
And, finally, I can't stress this enough. Don't be an asshole, share your results, and your ideas. Every little bit of knowledge counts towards the collective progress.
what do you guys think? i`m going to give it a go i think and see what happens.
We are continuing this conversation over at the Fractal Culture forums. Feel free to drop by and help out, only the opening post has been recreated. I think you'll also like the forum topics a lot
Hello mates, thought it's time for me to tell you a little bit more about a somewhat "shady" technique I've been using in my grows.
Like in my other thread, concerning ultrasonic frequencies, I'd like to point out that it is your responsibility to use the information given here wisely, and be extra cautious so that you wont stress or damage your plants. Be gentle.
Also, I'd like to point out that I'm no technical expert. My knowledge about electricity and technical issues is confined within the area of my growing necessities. I know what I know through experimentation, and working with my plants.
So I'd like to suggest to anyone who has a better knowledge than me about any of the things mentioned below, to give their 2c here. This is still experimental for me. There is a lot of room for improvement.
Things you will be able to do after reading this:
i)Achieve a higher seed germination rate
ii)Boost your seedlings' growth, as well as their survivability
iii)Achieve an increase on the growth of your plants as high as TWICE the growth you had
untill now, depending on the lighting that you provide for them. And I'm not trying to be funny.
iv)Be able to grow plants with the same results as before, but with just a fraction of the lighting you previously used.
Electrical root stimulation is no news for the worldwide commercial cropping research dudes. The effects of electricity on plants have been explored before. The thing is, though, that no source of power can be expected to replace sunlight. When electrical root stimulation is used on plants that have all the sunlight they need, the results are barely noticeable.
Bear with me, I'm getting somewhere.
On the other hand, the effects observed on electrically stimulated plants that were grown under artificial lighting, were nothing less than humbling. A growth rate of twice the magnitute of the control plant population was observed, and the total plant mass nearly doubled.
Now, I haven't experimented for that long with this technique, mates, but so far, it seems to me that the less light the plants have, the more benefit they get from the electrical stimulation. It's no big deal growing a plant in a closet with minimum lighting, if you supplement its growth with this technique. Lets dwelve a bit into the specifics of plant energy absorbtion.
Plants metabolise the nutrients they take through root or foliar intake, using energy they get from light, through a process called photosynthesis. No news for you, I'm sure.
Now, a plant's leaf acts as a solar panel, absorbing light with an absorbtion rate of just 0.1%. Light, is converted into the desirable form of energy inside the plant.
It seems logical that if we supplement the amount of energy a plant is taking, we will help it achieve the desired results. This is just one side of the coin, though.
There is another theory of why mild electrical stimulation helps a plant's growth. Roor growth. I haven't been able to test this myself yet, but, since the connection between a plant's root mass and its upper body is a widely accepted fact, it seems right that if we stimulate the growth of the roots, the upper plant mass will follow.
If that is the case, then electricity is beneficial for the root system, and has nothing to do with the amount of energy a plant uses for metabolism.
Whatever the case may be, mates, the effects of electricity on plants is an easily observable fact. Let's see how you can implement such a system yourself.
DIY - Its as easy as it gets!
You're gonna need a source of mild electrical current. In my oppinion, its better not to mess with batteries and such, since they are expendable, and contain chemicals which could be released in your soil and ruin your plants.
Instead, we'll use Photovoltaic Cells. What better than green energy for our plants? A photovoltaic cell, much like a leaf, converts ligh energy into electricity. Unlike leaves though, PV cells do a much better job, converting a staggering 12% of the light they take into electrical current.
Have you ever seen one of these outdoor lamps for gardens, that don't need batteries? They're sold almost everywhere! They have a small PV cell on the top, recharging them during the day, and they use that energy at night. Pretty cool.
Lets go grab ourselves one of these gadgets. They're not expensive at all. I get mine for about 5-6$ each. If you know some other way of obtaining a small PV cell, as I'm sure some of you do, that will be also ok.
What you want to do now, is bring out your destructive isnticts, grab yourself some tools, and open this fucker up. Careful, don't break the PV cell. Just start unscrewing everything untill you're left with a small square black cell, about 2x2 inches, with two electrodes coming from it.
This is your artificial leaf. All you have to do now is just stick it in your planting pot, one electrode from each side of your plant's main stem, and bend it a bit so that it's facing the light. That's it!
Now, you might be thinking, ok, so how do I know that this little fucker is not gonna burn my plants up, stress the fuck out of them, or cause some evil unthinkable disaster, like making my soil acidic as hell, or crystalising the salts in it, or who knows what else?
Well, mates, all you have to do to test this is experiment. Its that simple. You don't need to perform your experiments with your plants, just go get yourself a couple of wild weeds from your back yard, or a couple of tomato plants or something similar.
Put both plants in a place where they get the same amount of light, and stick your PV cell in one of their pots. Obviously you don't want them to be in the same pot.
Try to simulate the lighting that your cannabis plants are taking. If you can put the test plants inside, with a fluoro on them, or close to your cannabis plants, that would be even better.
Remember, the less light they get, the more difference your cell will do.
After about 10 days-2 weeks you will begin seing the first results. If your results are similar to the ones of my epxerience, you can expect some pretty amazing impact from the PV cell. After about 30 days, you can expect the stimulated plant to have almost double the size of the other.
Another experiment you can do is on seed germination. Just stick a PV cell on a container where some of your seeds are germinating, and leave the rest in another container without electricity. You can expect about 30-35% increase in germination rate. Talk about some good results!
There may be many other possible uses for this interesting technique. Be creative. Try to find new ways of using this. Search the internet. All the information I have found for this technique and a few others came from the net through many hours of searching and reading.
Also, keep in mind that I do not provide this info as solid truths. These are things that work for me. You have to epxeriment for yourself, and actually do some work, if you want to achieve the desirable effects.
Do not come to me afterwards telling me how you burned your crop because you thought providing more electricity would be better.
Do not come to me afterwards telling how you messed up your flowering cycle because you left the PV cell sticked in your soil during the dark hours, and the results where unpredictable. Do not invoke Dug's Wrath.
Experiment, mates. There are many things we do not know about the way our plants grow and thrive, and the only way to find out is experiment. Don't be afraid to try new things, radical ideas, and phunny thoughts.
If each one of us uses his/her creativity to push the borders of our knowledge a little further, we'll pretty soon reach new plateaus of growing efficiency.
Again, don't take my word for it, you don't have to believe me. Just try! I'm sure you won't be dissapointed!
And, finally, I can't stress this enough. Don't be an asshole, share your results, and your ideas. Every little bit of knowledge counts towards the collective progress.
