Elite Busted - take down grow operation?

If you have ordered from Elite would you

  • Grow on as normal, the investigation will not go to the home growers.

    Votes: 22 33.8%

  • Take down the grow and move all marijuana related items from your house for the next 6 months.

    Votes: 20 30.8%

  • Plan and be prepared for a quick room tear down and stay vigilant.

    Votes: 10 15.4%

  • Move to Europe and learn to speak British.

    Votes: 13 20.0%
  • Total voters
    65
Hobbes

Hobbes

Well-Known Member
If you lived in Elite's home state (apparently Indiana) and had ordered from Elite recently would you:

1. Grow on as normal, the investigation will not go to the home growers.

2. Take down the grow and move all marijuana related items from your house for the next 6 months.

3. Plan and be prepared for a quick room tear down and stay vigilant.

4. Move to Europe and learn to speak British.

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Back story

https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/218439-warning-exercise-caution-elite-genetics.html

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bongsmilie
 
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usernamex

New Member
Hobbes said:
If you lived in Elite's home state (apparently Indiana) and had ordered from Elite recently would you:

1. Grow on as normal, the investigation will not go to the home growers.

2. Take down the grow and move all marijuana related items from your house for the next 6 months.

3. Plan and be prepared for a quick room tear down and stay vigilant.

4. Move to Europe and learn to speak British.

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bongsmilie
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did you ship to your grow address?
 
Hobbes

Hobbes

Well-Known Member
I live in Canada, our cops are too busy looking for tax-free cigarette smugglers from the US. Serious business up here.

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bongsmilie
 
Rocky Top High

Rocky Top High

Well-Known Member
If I had the gear shipped to my grow addy I would be very nervous. Just another reason why you must have a safe addy for your gear.

I would be prepared to get rid of my entire grow as much as It would kill me. My freedom is more important. Actually, the more I think about it the more I would keep my grow as small as possible. From what I read about the bust, it seems Elite was not very smart so he more than likely had addys and such info laying around which is scary.
 
morganmegan

morganmegan

Member
I only order from across the ocean, use a pay as you grow credit card, have it sent to a po box in a different city, and nothing comes to my grow site.....ever. Oh yea and I bounce my IP address. I think outside the box at all times
 
Cyproz

Cyproz

Well-Known Member
unless your in the same state i wouldnt be worried. no way does our government have the money to hunt a ton of people down all over the country, especially now adays since we r broke hehe.
 
GrowTech

GrowTech

stays relevant.
LOL that's silly. Do you think they keep records of every address they shipped to? Come on, thats a huge list of testimony against them that they would not be stupid enough to keep.

You can continue growing as normal :)
 
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hydgrow

Well-Known Member
I think since you are in another country I would plan and be prepared. #3 if anything seeks out of the normal what's the major loss? Not your fredom stay on your toes I would think they will investigate you for a while first if anything suspicious happen tear it down and call it quits for six months.

Won't they see you leaving with everything though if you are in danger? I truely believe you are okay being in another country I mean why would the states care what Hobbes is doing across the border?
 
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cookin

New Member
i bought some in june or may can't remember, don't think he'll have my address, but i'm in the uk so doesn't matter, if i was in the US i'd be nervous but i wouldn't expect much, does anyone know what happened to all the buyers from his previous company that got busted? not much i'm guessing......???
 
Hobbes

Hobbes

Well-Known Member
"why would the states care what Hobbes is doing across the border"

I agree. Seeds coming north means nothing to the US LEO and they wouldn't trust the Canadian policia with any of their intel. I'd be more worried if I were involved in a cigerette smuggling operation. Don't smuggle smokes!

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"what happened to all the buyers from his previous company that got busted?"

WTF? Please enlighten me!

JFC!!! The things you don't know about!

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bongsmilie
 
Hobbes

Hobbes

Well-Known Member
"Do you think they keep records of every address they shipped to? Come on, thats a huge list of testimony against them that they would not be stupid enough to keep."

It's not what they did intentionally and thought they'd get away with that I'm concerned about, it's the stuff they had no clue about that may be routine for experienced LEO:

- did they clear all private data on their hard drive every day?
- did they shred their orders once filled?
- were they Oh-so-smart and kept a second hard drive with contact info that they could disconnect from their computer so no one would suspect they have another hard drive?

They were reckless and if this is their second time being caught, too stupid to learn from their mistakes. They got caught because they blatantly disregarded the first and second rule of marijuana seed breeding and distribution:

Rule number 1 of marijuana seed sales: Do NOT ship or sell seeds to the US unless you are from a country that will not extradite. We still mourn Mark Emery, who the jackasses in Ottawa will send to a former(?) torture state in blatant violation of Canadian law.

Rule number 2 of marijuana seed sales: If you are breeding seeds in the US then sell and ship through a company in the UK or Northern Europe. Keep a low profile and another company as a fuse between you and the heat. (Any where in Europe but Denmark. They think they're the Canada of Europe? WELL WE'RE THE CANADA OF THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD AND THEY'LL PAY FOR THEIR AROGANCE! If you're from Canada you know what I mean.)

Rule number 3 or marijuana seed sales: Next time you think of ordering seeds shipped from the US place your head on the toilet seat rim and slam the seat downwards with great force. Repeat as necessary. If the problem persists install a porcelin or metal toilet seat.

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bongsmilie
 
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cookin

New Member
hobbes i'm really not sure, but i read somewhere that he used to sell under the name of greenseeds or something... hopefully someone can fill us in
 
NoSaint

NoSaint

Well-Known Member
Its not even about if he kept the address's. Its about what can the LEO's pull from his internet provider. FRom his email, from his dealings on these forums. The least of my worries is did elite have my address laying around, I'm more worried about how far back into his net activities are they going. If pwoplw don't think that they can pull a ton of stuff from his ISP, internet history/use and computer then you are wrong.



Hobbes said:
"Do you think they keep records of every address they shipped to? Come on, thats a huge list of testimony against them that they would not be stupid enough to keep."

It's not what they did intentionally and thought they'd get away with that I'm concerned about, it's the stuff they had no clue about that may be routine for experienced LEO:

- did they clear all private data on their hard drive every day?
- did they shred their orders once filled?
- were they Oh-so-smart and kept a second hard drive with contact info that they could disconnect from their computer so no one would suspect they have another hard drive?

They were reckless and if this is their second time being caught, too stupid to learn from their mistakes. They got caught because they blatantly disregarded the first and second rule of marijuana seed breeding and distribution:

Rule number 1 of marijuana seed sales: Do NOT ship or sell seeds to the US unless you are from a country that will not extradite. We still mourn Mark Emery, who the jackasses in Ottawa will send to a former(?) torture state in blatant violation of Canadian law.

Rule number 2 of marijuana seed sales: If you are breeding seeds in the US then sell and ship through a company in the UK or Northern Europe. Keep a low profile and another company as a fuse between you and the heat. (Any where in Europe but Denmark. They think they're the Canada of Europe? WELL WE'RE THE CANADA OF THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD AND THEY'LL PAY FOR THEIR AROGANCE! If you're from Canada you know what I mean.)

Rule number 3 or marijuana seed sales: Next time you think of ordering seeds shipped from the US place your head on the toilet seat rim and slam the seat downwards with great force. Repeat as necessary. If the problem persists install a porcelin or metal toilet seat.

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bongsmilie
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Dan Kone

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
Hobbes said:
If you lived in Elite's home state (apparently Indiana) and had ordered from Elite recently would you:

2. Take down the grow and move all marijuana related items from your house for the next 6 months.
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^ this ^

The cops have a list of houses that are all likely to be grow ops and probable cause to search the houses. Why would the cops stay away from easy busts?

Tear everything down immediately and find a new spot.
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
GrowTech said:
LOL that's silly. Do you think they keep records of every address they shipped to? Come on, thats a huge list of testimony against them that they would not be stupid enough to keep.

You can continue growing as normal :)
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This way of thinking will get you busted. Always prepare for the worst, hope for the best.

Unless you know for a fact they didn't keep records, assume they did.
 
avgdude7

avgdude7

Active Member
I hate to be a stick in the mud here, but little known fact, the DEA in cooperation with RCMP have approximetely 150 operatives in/around lower mainland and interior, read that in a vancouver newspaper story about the history of AN founders, if I can find it again I'll post the link to it, and I would only assume they'd do the same with the ciggarette smuggling in mohawk territory cause' it spans both borders. Thats kinda a wake up call actually knowing a seed bank's busted that u may have ordered from. OH and btw as much as I like the statement of your sig Hobbes, fuck Jean Chretien and his poor command of the english language(yes I'm from AB), that paved the way for stefan dion....I tell for you, don't press my nerve anglais. Sorry for getting off topic there.
 
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420johnny

Member
i dunno if you havent got pot there now well grow some tomatoes in your state-of-the-art hydroponic system :P (no im deadly serious).

I'd be scared if i ordered like 10000's of seeds.
 
Hobbes

Hobbes

Well-Known Member
"The cops have a list of houses that are all likely to be grow ops and probable cause to search the houses. Why would the cops stay away from easy busts?"

Dan makes a very good point.

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"I hate to be a stick in the mud here, but little known fact, the DEA in cooperation with RCMP have approximetely 150 operatives in/around lower mainland and interior,"

Put this and Dan's statements together and it's sobering.

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"assume they'd do the same with the ciggarette smuggling in mohawk territory cause' it spans both borders."

I played sports with some Indians (Mohawk by coincidence) who had relatives living on a reservation stratling both countries. They made millions smuggling smokes, I was told how bringing in truckloads of cigarettes into the reservation on the US side was like stocking a local Walmart; and getting them through Canada is like smuggling poison. Apparently the US Law Enforcement helps their Canadian counterparts when it suits their purpose, not when they think Canada could use their help. Which makes sense, since we don't pay their budget and loose lips sink ships.

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"Thats kinda a wake up call actually knowing a seed bank's busted that u may have ordered from."

I may never order from even a Canadian seedbank again, Europe or bust.


"OH and btw as much as I like the statement of your sig Hobbes, fuck Jean Chretien and his poor command of the english language(yes I'm from AB), that paved the way for stefan dion....I tell for you, don't press my nerve anglais. Sorry for getting off topic there."

LOL!

I pay about as much attention to Canadian potitics as the next Canadian. Be honest - can you name more US vice presidents from the past 5 administrations or Canadian Deputy Prime Ministers for the history of Canada? Or do we even have a Deputy Dog, I mean Prime Minister? Deputy.

Here's my favorite The Chreiten pic:

"A prime minister has a unique duty to preserve the integrity of the office," he said. "It is not about power. It is about responsibility."



The Chretien throttles a protester. Body guards are afraid to interfere until The Chretien is spent. He has been known to hospitalize his entire body guard staff if they try to break up a fight. Aids say this is an old hockey-referee response.

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bongsmilie
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