Elizabeth Warren?

UncleBuck

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Pants up don't loot is a reference to the fine protesters in Furgeson.


I know it's superficial. But it's the american people. I don't think warren is electable.
there are more people guarding stores they don't even own than there are looting them.

not to mention the thousands and thousands more peaceful protesters doing neither.

if i were to judge whites by the standard you judge blacks, i'd have to assume they were all gay racist junkies who steal from their parents.
 

ginwilly

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Me too. ENDLESS comic possibilities!
Playing with fire there.

Never underestimate your fellow man. I would be surprised if she ever won another election, but not shocked.

Imagine Joe Biden vs Sarah Palin, who would win? It's one bet I wouldn't make.

Entertaining as hell but somebody would eventually win, then we'd all lose.
 

ttystikk

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Playing with fire there.

Never underestimate your fellow man. I would be surprised if she ever won another election, but not shocked.

Imagine Joe Biden vs Sarah Palin, who would win? It's one bet I wouldn't make.

Entertaining as hell but somebody would eventually win, then we'd all lose.
Joe Biden has a proven track record of success, unlike the Palinator. Maybe you should Google what each of them has done before making such a blanket statement.
 

ginwilly

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Joe Biden has a proven track record of success, unlike the Palinator. Maybe you should Google what each of them has done before making such a blanket statement.
Joe Biden is a life long politician.

Sarah Palin actually ran an entire state before bailing out like a bitch.

You must like Biden and I touched a nerve, but the dude just strikes me as below average intelligence. But he IS a democrat, so there will be some here for him no matter what.

If achievements are the barometer, law review editor in college <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< governor. Are you saying Palin was more qualified than Obama? I think so too, I just don't think she was more deserving. She's batshit insane imo, Biden is an idiot imo.
 

ttystikk

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Hmmmm I think being a multi term US Senator (Joe Biden) qualifies one for higher office. He has an eager friendly demeanor that can be offputting until you see him work a tough room. That's real skill, and his legislative tack record speaks for itself.

Quitting on your constituents for personal aggrandizement does not, at least in my book. Neither does cronyism or attempting to gain personal advantage from your official position. Yet, these are the kinds of traits the Republican party seems to prize.
 

ginwilly

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Hmmmm I think being a multi term US Senator (Joe Biden) qualifies one for higher office. He has an eager friendly demeanor that can be offputting until you see him work a tough room. That's real skill, and his legislative tack record speaks for itself.

Quitting on your constituents for personal aggrandizement does not, at least in my book. Neither does cronyism or attempting to gain personal advantage from your official position. Yet, these are the kinds of traits the Republican party seems to prize.
I knew it!!

It's a partisan thing for you isn't.

So, did you vote for Obama in 08? That would make you a hypocrite then wouldn't it. Because McCain is everything you claim Biden is too. Obama was a community organizer.

But that's different.... he wasn't a republican.

Please tell me what your standards are to be electable.

BTW, I think Uncle Joe is very likable. One of the few present politicians I would love to sit and drink with. I still think he's not real bright though. That three letter word JOBS keeping popping up in my head.
 

ttystikk

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I knew it!!

It's a partisan thing for you isn't.

So, did you vote for Obama in 08? That would make you a hypocrite then wouldn't it. Because McCain is everything you claim Biden is too. Obama was a community organizer.

But that's different.... he wasn't a republican.

Please tell me what your standards are to be electable.
Your policy proposals have to be helpful to the country as a whole. It's not a high bar, but I see very few career politicians who can cross it.

If I honestly felt that Republicans had a better grasp of how to run the country, they'd have my vote.

They do not currently have my vote.

The Democrats only get my vote by default, which is what I think us wrong with our political system and why I believe this country will fail.
 

ginwilly

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Your policy proposals have to be helpful to the country as a whole. It's not a high bar, but I see very few career politicians who can cross it.

If I honestly felt that Republicans had a better grasp of how to run the country, they'd have my vote.

They do not currently have my vote.

The Democrats only get my vote by default, which is what I think us wrong with our political system and why I believe this country will fail.
I happen to feel that way about both parties. I can't blame you for feeling that way about pubs.

Which policies of the dems do you favor btw? Is it the expansion of the Patriot Act to include cell phones? Was it ramming through an unpopular bill that involves 1/7 of our economy and then constantly lying about it? Is it the 7 countries we've bombed since dem control? You like the fact we now kill citizens without due process? How about the fact that there are 63 drone locations in the US, which is just another example of the rapid expansion of the military state? Maybe you like how we've printed trillions of dollars and funneled them directly to the too big to fail banks that crashed our economy the first time?

Yeah, big difference in policy.

I happen to support the pub platform of limited government, personal freedoms (which come with responsibility and accountability). I just don't think pubs support it.
 
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schuylaar

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Your policy proposals have to be helpful to the country as a whole. It's not a high bar, but I see very few career politicians who can cross it.

If I honestly felt that Republicans had a better grasp of how to run the country, they'd have my vote.

They do not currently have my vote.

The Democrats only get my vote by default, which is what I think us wrong with our political system and why I believe this country will fail.
fail.

you can vote for anyone you want, even yourself.
 

schuylaar

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I happen to feel that way about both parties. I can't blame you for feeling that way about pubs.

Which policies of the dems do you favor btw? Is it the expansion of the Patriot Act to include cell phones? Was it ramming through an unpopular bill that involves 1/7 of our economy and then constantly lying about it? Is it the 7 countries we've bombed since dem control? You like the fact we now kill citizens without due process? How about the fact that there are 63 drone locations in the US, which is just another example of the rapid expansion of the military state? Maybe you like how we've printed trillions of dollars and funneled them directly to the too big to fail banks that crashed our economy the first time?

Yeah, big difference in policy.

I happen to support the pub platform of limited government, personal freedoms (which come with responsibility and accountability). I just don't think pubs support it.
that will never be GW because the right is the party of "do as i say;not as i do"; we have MORE government because of the LACK of responsibility/accountability.

the right is the BIGGEST abuser of the "system".

you have everyone controlling the "system" except for those who should; the people.

low wages. ever increasing COLA. a broken tax system. a dow trading at 18000. amendment of dodd frank:wall:

you men are fucking tripping if you think that is a sound economic recipe!
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Pants up don't loot is a reference to the fine protesters in Furgeson.


I know it's superficial. But it's the american people. I don't think warren is electable.
o'rly?

The United States Senate career of Barack Obama began on January 4, 2005 and ended on November 16, 2008.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_career_of_Barack_Obama

BNB: knowing what you know now, if you HAD to make the choice: black man or white women for president? which would you choose?
 

Senca the Younger

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Hmmmm I think being a multi term US Senator (Joe Biden) qualifies one for higher office. He has an eager friendly demeanor that can be offputting until you see him work a tough room. That's real skill, and his legislative tack record speaks for itself.

Quitting on your constituents for personal aggrandizement does not, at least in my book. Neither does cronyism or attempting to gain personal advantage from your official position. Yet, these are the kinds of traits the Republican party seems to prize.
VP Joe Biden has been a life long Senator with almost no public sector work experience. His voting record has consistent been against legalization of marijuana and strongly believes that it's a gateway drug. In addition has created/supported a drug czar office and tougher prison terms for drug offenders, while refusing early release for non violent offenders. Oh, he's a favorite for the bank industry and their bailouts.

Elizabeth Warren is extremely smart and has continued to fight against the large banks with their bailouts and fees they pass on to the taxpaying citizens. She's been labeled an outsider due to her tough stance on bailouts.

Hillary would be the opposite of Elizabeth Warren in the sense she has both arms open and pockets ($400,000 Goldman - speaking fees).
 

schuylaar

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case in point from october 2014, schuylaar female spidey senses pullback very, very soon between now and february 2015..the article predicts correction at 18000..where are we now?..why the dodd frank amendment NOW?

for those of you who have investments, i would put in an order now to sell at a certain level if you have not already.

flirtin' with disaster, again:


But if you're keeping an eye on the numbers, here are three critical stats to watch. There is no "magic number" that triggers a sell-off, but these indicators would be big red flags.

1. We're near a correction, but not there yet


Only a month ago, the S&P 500 index closed at an all-time high of 2,011. At its worst point on Wednesday, the index was down around 9.5% since that September high. That's rough, but it's not quite the 10% drop that would constitute a true correction, let alone the 20% drop that would signal a bear market.

Related: Stocks should fall more. Corrections are normal

Keep an eye on this number: 1,810. If the S&P 500 slips below that, we're in a correction. As of Wednesday afternoon, the S&P is hovering around 1,860.

(For those who like numbers, at the nadir of the financial crisis in March 2009, the S&P 500 closed below 700).

2. Volatility is back: It's getting windy, but not quite gale force wind levels


The VIX volatility index is currently at about 23.
Most days the stock market moves a little bit higher or lower. For instance, the S&P 500 moved less than 0.2% on Tuesday. But since the end of October, the stock market has had numerous "wild swings" where it shifts more than 1% (or even more than 2% in some cases).

Related: Is it time to exit stocks?

That's referred to as volatility. The VIX Index is the main measure of volatility. It has spiked about 80% in the past month -- a huge jump. The VIX was all over the place on Wednesday, but settled around 26. That's a lot higher than the 12 to 13 it was at a month ago.

But the unofficial alarm bell is when the VIX hits the 30 mark. It crossed that line briefly Wednesday before falling back.

3. Investors are putting money into bonds. It's debatable whether it's a 'freak out'


When investors get scared, they don't run to mom, they run to bonds, especially U.S. government bonds. The yield on the 10-year Treasury is a good indicator of just how many people are seeking the safe arms of the bond market.

When the yield falls, you know people are gobbling up bonds.

In the middle of September, the yield on the 10-year Treasury was around 2.6%. On Tuesday it was at 2.2%. That's a quick drop, but the real indicator of a meltdown would be for the yield to drop to 2% or even below.

Sure enough, on Wednesday, the yield fell below that mark several times, although it ended the day above 2.1%.

Dropping below that "magic two" number isn't unheard of. It happened in early 2013 and in 2012 when Europe was in the midst of a debt crisis and America's economic recovery was looking uncertain.

Market jitters are clearly back, but we're not quite in a "correction" yet.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/10/14/investing/stocks-market-3-key-numbers-to-watch/
 

ginwilly

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that will never be GW because the right is the party of "do as i say;not as i do"; we have MORE government because of the LACK of responsibility/accountability.

the right is the BIGGEST abuser of the "system".

you have everyone controlling the "system" except for those who should; the people.

low wages. ever increasing COLA. a broken tax system. a dow trading at 18000. amendment of dodd frank:wall:

you men are fucking tripping if you think that is a sound economic recipe!
Yep, while what you say is correct, your blame is misplaced.

And speaking of the party of forcing people to do things against their will for the greater good.... holy fuck sky if you don't think that's exactly what the dems have been doing. Come on girl. You just happen to agree with some force, disagree with other. You are not being consistent.

All while bombing the brown people. No, both parties suck, it's not one-sided like you claim.
 
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