WE NEED all the foreign "Brain Power" we can get, in MA we're bombarded w/ requests for trainees to work in Groton CT building submarines for our Navy,AND the Chinese just wished us a Merry Xmas by flying TWO 6th. GEN military jets in broad daylight in a "in your face" demonstration,a wake up call to our nation to say the least.
Elons Little Plan
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Nugnewbie
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Mexican Billionaire Carlos Slim Cuts Ties with Elon Musk’s Starlink, Costing Musk $7 Billion After Controversial Tweet
Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim has officially severed ties with Elon Musk’s Starlink, opting to invest in his own telecommunications
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BudmanTX
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Mexican Billionaire Carlos Slim Cuts Ties with Elon Musk’s Starlink, Costing Musk $7 Billion After Controversial Tweet
Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim has officially severed ties with Elon Musk’s Starlink, opting to invest in his own telecommunications
Elon got FAFO'd.........
Nugnewbie
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Reminds me of what he's doing to the government, and the country. Sad.
Nugnewbie
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Tesla is done in Germany: 94% say they won't buy a Tesla car
A survey of over 100,000 Germans revealed that 94% won’t buy a Tesla vehicle. It doesn’t bode well for the...
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topcat
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Yet another recall. Everything Elonia touches blows up.
I don't like Musk but how would that save 30 billion, is someone going to do the job for free?
BudmanTX
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His contracts, the fed would save us for the 30 bill, cut him off, he's rich enough right.
Nasa original had the job or at least I thought....give the 30 bill to them..
What job are u referring to? Jc
I was referring to getting our astronauts home from the space station, spacecraft and launch vehicles etc. Musk is a problem but giving 30 billion to NASA doesn't save us 30 billion.
lemondroptrichomes
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It doesn’t. NASA can’t and couldn’t do what Musk and SpaceX does. NASA is now better suited for deep space research and other technological developments. Anyone trying to discredit Musk’s contribution to humanity and how much money he has saved our government is a politically motivated person parroting talking points they hear and see from people/groups they gravitate toward to reinforce their own beliefs.
The numbers don’t lie. The results don’t lie. The same people projecting the failure of our country and economy because Trump and republicans won the election, are the same people making snide comments about spacex launch failures. Failures they gain vast data from and improve upon better than NASA or any government agency ever could; for far less money. Musk himself needs zero of our dollars for any possible personal gain. When someone says “cut him off he has enough money already” they just demonstrate they have no idea what they’re talking about.
From an unbiased robot (ChatGPT)
SpaceX has been significantly more efficient than NASA in terms of cost per launch and cost per spacecraft development when using government funds. Here’s a breakdown of the efficiency gains:
1. Cost per Launch
• NASA’s Space Shuttle (1981–2011): ~$450 million per launch.
• SpaceX Falcon 9: ~$67 million per launch (now as low as $55M for commercial customers).
• Cost Savings: Falcon 9 is ~7 times cheaper than the Space Shuttle.
2. Cost of Development
• NASA’s SLS (Space Launch System): Over $23 billion spent in development and ~$4.1 billion per launch.
• SpaceX’s Falcon 9 & Heavy: ~$390 million for Falcon 9 development, ~$500 million for Falcon Heavy.
• Cost Savings: Falcon Heavy, which is more powerful than SLS Block 1, cost ~20 times less to develop.
3. NASA’s Commercial Crew vs. Traditional NASA Development
• NASA’s Orion Capsule: ~$20 billion+ spent since 2006, ~$900 million per launch.
• SpaceX Crew Dragon: Developed for ~$2.6 billion total.
• Cost Savings: Crew Dragon was ~7 times cheaper than Orion’s cost per launch.
4. Reusability & Cost Reduction
• SpaceX has reused Falcon 9 boosters up to 20 times, dramatically lowering costs.
• NASA’s traditional approach with disposable rockets (SLS) is not reusable, making it much more expensive in the long run.
Conclusion
SpaceX has demonstrated that private-sector efficiency, innovation, and reusability lead to cost reductions of 5-20 times compared to traditional NASA programs. NASA still plays a vital role in research, deep space exploration, and technology development, but for launch services, SpaceX has delivered far greater efficiency per government dollar spent.
BudmanTX
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ah thanks for the reminder, i remember something was said about this....so i decided to take a look today.....found this on google:
according to NPR article, there has been something there since last september for the 2 astronauts to come back, seems like they haven't cause they are pretty much intergrated into what the crew on ISS has already been doing....
and i'm gonna have to agree with ya on the 30bil and NASA thing...
It's not really the money that worries me, it's the national security risk.
SpaceX warned not to seek higher clearance for Elon Musk due to drug use: report
Sources told The Wall Street Journal that Musk’s drug use and contact with foreign nationals could lead to his existing security clearance being revoked if he attempts to upgrade it
www.independent.co.uk
Musk Under Federal Investigation for Flouting Security Clearance Rules
The SpaceX founder, who holds top-secret security clearance, reportedly didn’t disclose his drug use and foreign contacts as part of the ongoing vetting process.
Is Elon Musk a National Security Risk?
Federal agencies are reviewing whether the tech mogul and ally of Donald Trump complied with disclosure rules meant to protect state secrets.
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BudmanTX
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It's not really the money that worries me, it's the national security risk.
SpaceX warned not to seek higher clearance for Elon Musk due to drug use: report
Sources told The Wall Street Journal that Musk’s drug use and contact with foreign nationals could lead to his existing security clearance being revoked if he attempts to upgrade itMusk Under Federal Investigation for Flouting Security Clearance Rules
The SpaceX founder, who holds top-secret security clearance, reportedly didn’t disclose his drug use and foreign contacts as part of the ongoing vetting process.www.thedailybeast.com
Is Elon Musk a National Security Risk?
Federal agencies are reviewing whether the tech mogul and ally of Donald Trump complied with disclosure rules meant to protect state secrets.www.nytimes.com
oh he's a major national security risk now, yesterday i caught a wiff of a story out Germany, looks like musk is being investigated there, also him and his fake DOGE today is in USIP (United States Institute of Peace) house.....now why would they wanna be there i have to ask myself....beard scratcher
Nugnewbie
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Tesla Lawsuit Alleges Automaker Manipulates Odometer Readings to Avoid Warranty Obligations
A class action alleges Tesla has manipulated odometer readings in its EVs to display greater distances than were actually driven in an effort to dodge repair obligations under mileage-capped warranties.
www.classaction.org
