email468 new equipment grow (PPP)

Thanks email....I dont think I am ready to try that yet.....maybe in a year or two...sounds really risky. Interested to see how your yield will be with the technique though!

GhanjaBuck said:

Thanks email....I dont think I am ready to try that yet.....maybe in a year or two...sounds really risky. Interested to see how your yield will be with the technique though!

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i'm not really going to know - it isn't a very good experiment since i've never grown Big Bud before. It does seem to be working out space-wise though.

Yeah man looking good.
I take it you induced that stretch by raising the lights?
I do this as well,works well.
Best of luck with it,pm me the link when you start the new journal proper

natmoon said:

Yeah man looking good.
I take it you induced that stretch by raising the lights?
I do this as well,works well.
Best of luck with it,pm me the link when you start the new journal proper

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i left the lights raised but yes - high lights made them shoot up. note the PPP is staying short even though the light is at the same distance. - but i'll get into that (sativa-heavy vs. indica-heavy hybrids) in the new journal.

glad you dropped by natmoon! always a pleasure

this just keeps getting better and better. I heard that technique works great!!! My friend was telling me how he did that on one of his BB plants and one of them he didn't. Get got fatter buds and .8ozs more yield then the other! I can't wait to see the final product email, again thanks for all your support on my thread and Pm's.

email468 said:

i think they might be unnecessary. Next time probably won't use the liners just hydroton filled net pots. I'll use the lids thought to keep the light off the roots. But my aero system spritzes water on the roots 24 x 7 so i don't have to worry about my medium drying out.

puff puff pass

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chiming in late in the game here, but I think I might tend to agree about the cocotek liners. I am doing an experiment with mine. I have one plant with liner and one without. The plant without the liner is growing furiously, while the one with the liner looks almost two weeks behind the other. I'll take pics and post them soon. Wont know for sure, though, until harvest (and I'll only just begin flower tomorrow.

Next time I'll have a dedicated grow journal... that would be more scientific and produce quantifiable results, eh?

me and email had a talk.... im experimenting with cocotek liners and canna coco medium to see if the aeroponics will keep it too moist...or if it will grow. saturation seems unimportant if its aerated

I'd be very very interested in seeing what you come up with.

I might be throwing my experiment off a little, as I wound up growing entirely without a medium, using only the cocotek lids on net baskets to hold the seedlings in place--literally suspending them in the air. I only have the two plants... (really should start a journal, eh? haha.) ...but they have been thriving nicely. My biggest issue with going basically medium-less is that the cocotek lids soak easily. Thus the experimentation with the lined net and non-lined net baskets.

As for your hypothesis, I'd tend to agree. The water in an aeroponic setup is already well aerated and so it shouldn't matter much that the coco liners hold liquid.

My concern was initially about using liners at all in an aeroponic setup. I thought that it would impede the nutrient mist from reaching the roots of young seedlings. Of course, this may be a good thing. The genetics in my experiment are variable (bag seed), so I can't truly tell.

the only reason i use lids is to keep light off my roots. i think plastic/mylar or something else would work just as well. the current grow uses no liner - just hydroton in netpots.

hey email, is it possible to send you a pm, had some questions and didn't want to barrage your thread with them

zinch said:

hey email, is it possible to send you a pm, had some questions and didn't want to barrage your thread with them

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Hey zinch - i tried to PM you but i think you have to have more than two posts in order to send and receive PMs - so you can ask your questions here if you like - maybe it'll help others anyway

Ah, well, I just started flipping through your thread and may have missed it, but your setup is exactly what I had planned to run.. I was wondering about how your surroundings were setup (walls, canopy, etc.) Maybe I'm thinking too much into it, but I was going to just have a custom greenhouse built to fit inside my house.. I'm wondering if putting up some false walls with green board would be sufficient enough though..

zinch said:

Ah, well, I just started flipping through your thread and may have missed it, but your setup is exactly what I had planned to run.. I was wondering about how your surroundings were setup (walls, canopy, etc.) Maybe I'm thinking too much into it, but I was going to just have a custom greenhouse built to fit inside my house.. I'm wondering if putting up some false walls with green board would be sufficient enough though..

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i used drywall for the walls. and a 2x4 frame with plywood (the thick kind) for the floor and ceiling since it had to hold 20 gallons of water - which i think is over 150 pounds! after it was built, i painted everything with heat resistant white paint and then covered the flat parts of the interior with mylar. i made sure it was light proof and ran the system for 24-48 hours with lights on and no plants to monitor temperature and to see if any unforeseen problems emerged (none did).

it works well but is very heavy and hard to move. I think i will be ripping it apart and building one out of panda plastic and pvc pipe. if i do and turns out well, maybe i'll post something about it - but i have at least one grow to finish first

am i answering your question?

email468 said:

it works well but is very heavy and hard to move. I think i will be ripping it apart and building one out of panda plastic and pvc pipe. if i do and turns out well, maybe i'll post something about it - but i have at least one grow to finish first

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how would you secure the panda to the pvc pipes?
what size pipes do you think you would use?
do you think this would this be cheaper than building something out of 2x3's?

thanks email, your the man bro.

yep, that answered it.. so basically it's a big box you built.. any insulation? and what dimensions did you use for the one? I was planning on running two of the rainforest..

email468 said:

i used drywall for the walls. and a 2x4 frame with plywood (the thick kind) for the floor and ceiling since it had to hold 20 gallons of water - which i think is over 150 pounds! after it was built, i painted everything with heat resistant white paint and then covered the flat parts of the interior with mylar. i made sure it was light proof and ran the system for 24-48 hours with lights on and no plants to monitor temperature and to see if any unforeseen problems emerged (none did).

it works well but is very heavy and hard to move. I think i will be ripping it apart and building one out of panda plastic and pvc pipe. if i do and turns out well, maybe i'll post something about it - but i have at least one grow to finish first

am i answering your question?

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sorry for all the delays - i was out of contact there for a few days but i'm back and will be attempting to answer your questions tomorrow at the latest.

I was thinking the yield was a bit high.. but anything can happen!

This still looks good.. and I'm anxious to see what you do for the new setup.. the reason I got the Hydrofarm Hut was for the fact that I can break it down and move it (45 lbs) with ease.

I'm a nomad by nature.

hydrohuts are poisonous yuck! portable poison yummmm

LoudBlunts said:

hydrohuts are poisonous yuck! portable poison yummmm

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i thought they fixed that - didn't they issue an apology and offer to replace the contaminated units? or are they ignoring the problem and continuing to sell the plant killing tents?

We TaRdED said:

how would you secure the panda to the pvc pipes?
what size pipes do you think you would use?
do you think this would this be cheaper than building something out of 2x3's?

thanks email, your the man bro.

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