Capt. Stickyfingers
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Looks like some good bud man. Pat yourself on the back.
Emerald Triangle Seed co. and Delicious Seeds Grow
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kevin murphy
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very nice bro indeed mate...
spicoli129
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I decided since I have three Lost Coast OG's that I would try pulling them at different times. I chopped one last night, the trichs were clear, but mostly cloudy, with a few ambers. The next LC OG I'm gonna do is gonna be 70/30 milky, amber. Then last I'll wait for 60/40 or 50/50.
My CSS's will be making the cut on thursday, day 59.
The final 2 RPK's will be between 63-70 days depending on trichomes.
I'll have some pic's of the LC OG tonight. It looks pretty good, and smells EXCELLENT!
My CSS's will be making the cut on thursday, day 59.
The final 2 RPK's will be between 63-70 days depending on trichomes.
I'll have some pic's of the LC OG tonight. It looks pretty good, and smells EXCELLENT!
spicoli129
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Sorry for the shitty pictures! It was late last night when I got done so I was lazy and tired!
In the group shot the branches farthest to the left is the same one sitting with the champagne bottle. It weighed 124g's wet.
Any estimates on my total weight, or just of the 124g branch?
In the group shot the branches farthest to the left is the same one sitting with the champagne bottle. It weighed 124g's wet.
Any estimates on my total weight, or just of the 124g branch?
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spicoli129
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The longer branches are around 18"+ long to give you guys some perspective. This, or my thai influenced LCOG will be my highest yielder on the LC OG's.
My small yielder looks Amazing though, substantially better than both the one in the pictures, or my Thai pheno . It'll be the next to go
the Thai's last cause its definetly the least mature at this point.
My small yielder looks Amazing though, substantially better than both the one in the pictures, or my Thai pheno . It'll be the next to go
the Thai's last cause its definetly the least mature at this point.
truepunk87
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Idk about your yield.....but I know that's some damn fine looking herb 
Congrats
Congrats
Capt. Stickyfingers
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Waiting until the trichs get 30-50% amber isn't going to benefit you any. When trichs turn amber it means that they are starting to decompose and will continue to degrade more as it dries and cures. That's like the biggest misconception about growing right now. When you start seeing ambers, it's time to pull. Wait any longer and you're past the peak potency point.
spicoli129
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I wouldn't say it doesn't benefit you any. The trichomes turning amber means that THC is degrading to different Cannabinoids, mostly CBD, CGN, and CBG. All three of these have different effects on the brain. Terpens also ripen and slightly change the taste and smell of buds.
Your right about the THC's peak potency lowering as trichomes change to amber, but THC isn't the only thing that affects the high, or low, and over all potency of your bud.
I'm not trying to sound rude in anyway Capt.Everyone likes their bud a little different.
You should check out this read, its pretty interesting!
https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/210501-zeuss-take-harvesting.html
spicoli129
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One of my CSS's is getting purple! This is the opposite plant that I took cuttings from on day 55.
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Capt. Stickyfingers
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No offense, but I've read about this a million times over, and that Zeus is wrong. Amber is past ripe, he speaks as if amber is the pinnacle of ripeness, that is just wrong and has been proven time and time again. Also, letting a bunch of the glands go amber is not going turn a heady sativa dom buzz into a couchlock one. And I think Zeus himself can vouch for that one - quote, "If you want a soaring 'cerebral' high: Get yourself a tropical sativa that contains a high level of THC-V and grow it until it is ripe. If you want the narcotic couchlock stone, grow a rugged indica until its ripe.I wouldn't say it doesn't benefit you any. The trichomes turning amber means that THC is degrading to different Cannabinoids, mostly CBD, CGN, and CBG. All three of these have different effects on the brain. Terpens also ripen and slightly change the taste and smell of buds.
Your right about the THC's peak potency lowering as trichomes change to amber, but THC isn't the only thing that affects the high, or low, and over all potency of your bud.
Everyone likes their bud a little different.
You should check out this read, its pretty interesting!
https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/210501-zeuss-take-harvesting.html
The only problem is his opinion of ripe. Ripe is not amber, plain and simple.
I'm not trying to argue, just trying to let you know that there is a lot of misinformation out there that is taken for fact and Zeus certainly isn't helping matters.
But go ahead and try for yourself and see what gets you higher, a bud full of ambers or not. I can tell you that I pick my stuff when the glands are almost completely cloudy with a couple clears and couple ambers. And after smoking on the stuff (sealed in a jar) for 3 months, most of the glands are now amber. And guess what, my fresh OG kicks my old amber glanded Og's ass hands down.
So here's the deal, you want a couchlock buzz, find something that naturally has a lot of cbd in it, don't ruin perfectly good bud. Also, if you haven't noticed, the only people praising Zeus in that thread is a bunch of noobs.
So again, Spicoli, I love ya man, and I'm not trying to argue, just trying to show you true science and facts. But the sometimes the only way to learn is hands on. So give it a shot and see which is better.
Edit: https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/406335-milky-amber.html <Link
LiberateMJ
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I can't help it - I have to speak up, haha.
@Capt. Stickyfingers
I know I usually don't share too much info on this Forum, but I've read through three books on microbiology and somewhat a large data-base of docs on trichs. The inevitable conclusion to me is that the concentration of THC is not a factor that characterizes neither the type of the high nor its intensity. It's the correlation between the different types of cannabinoids that define all the main characteristics of the cannabis-related experiences... So, if we follow this logical path of thoughts, it means that it doesn't matter if we take the buds to 20-25% amber trichs... But, we all know that's not really the case... so we shouldn't rely only on theoretical knowledge. For me - personally - it's the genetic engineering of the Cannabis species. Of course, that my own personal opinion... and that's not the main issue here, hehe.
More CBD doesn't mean more couch-lock, but it does mean less "edge", because THC and CBD have a very strong correlation; also, CBD has a remarkably higher rate of assimilation in our body, so less of it is needed. Those two facts - one from science and one from our own experience, lead us to think the opposite of what pure science has to say on this subject and draw a conclusion that more CBD should mean more relaxed and just as potent high.
Of course, this is from a genetical point of view and is not related to ripeness. If one tries to do what genetics couldn't by taking the plant to from its peak potency to a state of overmaturity, it's all about how genetic respond to that: some strains have a peak-window of just one or two days and others - up to 20... So, there isn't an unilateral answer, it's very individual; that is actually why I started with my personal opinion on genetically engineered cannabis strains. Land-race strains usually react much better to this kind of stress, whilst the hybrids usually take a lot of environmental stress. For me, the simplest answer always comes from evolution-theory - evolution is a matter of needs; if you need to adapt in order to survive - you do all you can... Same goes for plants, I think. If your natural adaptability has been messed with, the methods to adapt must have changed, too... Anyway - I won't continue any further with this here, as there are many people who just don't see what we humans are doing to Mother Nature and I simply wanted to remind that to you, friends - it is, at the VERY least, a thing we should keep in mind.
Peace and Blessings.
@Capt. Stickyfingers
I know I usually don't share too much info on this Forum, but I've read through three books on microbiology and somewhat a large data-base of docs on trichs. The inevitable conclusion to me is that the concentration of THC is not a factor that characterizes neither the type of the high nor its intensity. It's the correlation between the different types of cannabinoids that define all the main characteristics of the cannabis-related experiences... So, if we follow this logical path of thoughts, it means that it doesn't matter if we take the buds to 20-25% amber trichs... But, we all know that's not really the case... so we shouldn't rely only on theoretical knowledge. For me - personally - it's the genetic engineering of the Cannabis species. Of course, that my own personal opinion... and that's not the main issue here, hehe.
More CBD doesn't mean more couch-lock, but it does mean less "edge", because THC and CBD have a very strong correlation; also, CBD has a remarkably higher rate of assimilation in our body, so less of it is needed. Those two facts - one from science and one from our own experience, lead us to think the opposite of what pure science has to say on this subject and draw a conclusion that more CBD should mean more relaxed and just as potent high.
Of course, this is from a genetical point of view and is not related to ripeness. If one tries to do what genetics couldn't by taking the plant to from its peak potency to a state of overmaturity, it's all about how genetic respond to that: some strains have a peak-window of just one or two days and others - up to 20... So, there isn't an unilateral answer, it's very individual; that is actually why I started with my personal opinion on genetically engineered cannabis strains. Land-race strains usually react much better to this kind of stress, whilst the hybrids usually take a lot of environmental stress. For me, the simplest answer always comes from evolution-theory - evolution is a matter of needs; if you need to adapt in order to survive - you do all you can... Same goes for plants, I think. If your natural adaptability has been messed with, the methods to adapt must have changed, too... Anyway - I won't continue any further with this here, as there are many people who just don't see what we humans are doing to Mother Nature and I simply wanted to remind that to you, friends - it is, at the VERY least, a thing we should keep in mind.
Peace and Blessings.
Capt. Stickyfingers
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WTF. Evolution theories, cbd not couch lock, genetic engineering?!?! You should not be giving advise man. I'm out and am done with this conversation. No more trich arguments, Spicoli's journal is the one taking the beating.
Quote- "So, if we follow this logical path of thoughts, it means that it doesn't matter if we take the buds to 20-25% amber trichs... But, we all know that's not really the case."
^^
Good way to agree with me while saying I don't know what I'm talking about. Smart guy.
truepunk87
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That cracked me up!!!! Lmfao
LiberateMJ
Member
Well, first - sorry for this SPAM, spicoli129.
@Capt. Stickyfingers
What I said:
As you can see, I said that we all know that is not the case. What would that mean - could it be that most of the people who grow and know cannabis know that its potency and effect change after trichs start getting dark? Yes, friend - that is what I meant. If you tried to actually read and understand what I wrote instead of trying to judge it with your Ego, I am sure you would have come to the understanding that I actually agreed with you and supported your foregoing (at that time) post. Your reaction made me sad - it is not OK to close, to imprison your mind, simply because of your Ego and lack of satisfaction from yourself.
He, who has no fear, does not try frighten other. - Osho.
If you are satisfied with yourself, you wouldn't have problems with others... and won't be rude, at the very least.
@indipow82
And you, friend... I was very sad when I saw what you did - it must be very difficult to live a life that lacks love and understanding... I get it - people always feel that their personification with their own Ego is not fulfilling. If one does not feel fulfilled, one has no knowledge about true love and happiness; he/she simply has no true experience related to love or lasting content. That is why there is a constant desire (most of the time the person remains unaware of it for a long time or even a life-time) to see people in the same situation just to make themselves feel better... Yes, it gives the illusion of contentment... but, it doesn't last, haha... That brings another occasion in witch one needs to see this in other people and soon - before one knows it - there is this constant need for more of this sight of other sad and unfulfilled people and this is where our society is right now, at this very moment... There is a very simple conclusion:
If you want others to be happy, you make them happy; if you want them to be sad, you make them sad. I would suggest you to think about this:
Why is it that when some people are sad, they put on different types of music? My answer would be because different people have a different way to express or not their own frustrations. You've decided to make fun of other people... Yes, it does give a sense of content or euphoria, but it doesn't last - simply because it's illusion. It is very commonly mistaken with happiness or fulfillment - ask any psychologist you wish.
There is really no reason for you guys to react that way - I didn't say anything new or shocking in my post. I simply presented it in a way that should have benefited more. I now feel that I shouldn't have commented at all, as it seems that people on this forum are not very different from other forums or real life - everyone is still selfish and thinks that everyone else has very much the same motives to do things. It does make me sad, but it also brings many possibilities to realize that this is not what we want; that we don't want to fight or frown, we all want to be happy, right? Of course, if you - or anyone else - actually want to fight, win, dominate, etc. I would like to apologize. Still, I would also like to ask you to stop flooding this thread and remind you that there are PMs if you'd like to address me, friends. If you think it's me the reason why you react that way, please - send me a PM. Lay it all out - I hope it would make you feel better about yourselves and maybe - just maybe - it could help you see that I mean well and if I'm going to be judged, I sure do not deserve the judgement I got from you.
I am who I am - that is simply not a way to evolve; that is a way to fail and create distance between you and others. Some call it privacy, but I think that privacy is just the name for the illusion of solitude; many people feel lonely when they have retreated, witch means they are not ready to be on their own... That is caused by the fact that they are simply not self-sufficient and too scared to look into their own ways of perception.
He who is unable to live in society, or who has no need because he is sufficient for himself, must be either a beast or a god.
Aristotle
What would you become? Any human-being that is capable of adequate - to the situation - self-actualization is considered intelligent. There is not a single intelligent God - they are all either SUPER-intelligent or something in that area... simply because there isn't a human conception that covers this characteristic of Gods. Why do I say this? There are things that simply cannot be explained with words. So, when we try to see beyond words, we actually look into what could be God-related. I support the idea that we are all Gods in a way. So, if you - right now - try and see beyond my words, you cannot miss the fact that I really mean well and this has been a great misunderstanding. I don't care who you are in a sense that I don't care who you think you are, because even people who try to understand humans can't seem to handle that task... So, there is really no way for you to judge me objectively - it is not a judgement when it has a purpose. If you do it with a purpose, then it's not objective. If you don't judge me objectively, then it's really not a judgement - it's more like an attempt to make yourselves feel differently about something... And - let's face it; it shouldn't be any of my bussiness. But, when you make it my bussiness and shove it up my face, I have nothing to do, but to write this long text in hopes to make things better and leave no hard feelings behind. What do you say?
Peace and Blessings.
@Capt. Stickyfingers
What I said:
According to the context, this means that if theory was right and it really does not matter if trichs are amber or not, my optional opinion would be that it's the fact that we grow genetically engineered cannabis <- link. I devoted some info about the source to that opinion of mine a little later on in my post, so I consider that point missed. Back to the quote.
As you can see, I said that we all know that is not the case. What would that mean - could it be that most of the people who grow and know cannabis know that its potency and effect change after trichs start getting dark? Yes, friend - that is what I meant. If you tried to actually read and understand what I wrote instead of trying to judge it with your Ego, I am sure you would have come to the understanding that I actually agreed with you and supported your foregoing (at that time) post.
Your reaction made me sad - it is not OK to close, to imprison your mind, simply because of your Ego and lack of satisfaction from yourself.He, who has no fear, does not try frighten other. - Osho.
If you are satisfied with yourself, you wouldn't have problems with others... and won't be rude, at the very least.
@indipow82
And you, friend... I was very sad when I saw what you did - it must be very difficult to live a life that lacks love and understanding... I get it - people always feel that their personification with their own Ego is not fulfilling. If one does not feel fulfilled, one has no knowledge about true love and happiness; he/she simply has no true experience related to love or lasting content. That is why there is a constant desire (most of the time the person remains unaware of it for a long time or even a life-time) to see people in the same situation just to make themselves feel better... Yes, it gives the illusion of contentment... but, it doesn't last, haha... That brings another occasion in witch one needs to see this in other people and soon - before one knows it - there is this constant need for more of this sight of other sad and unfulfilled people and this is where our society is right now, at this very moment... There is a very simple conclusion:
If you want others to be happy, you make them happy; if you want them to be sad, you make them sad. I would suggest you to think about this:
Why is it that when some people are sad, they put on different types of music? My answer would be because different people have a different way to express or not their own frustrations. You've decided to make fun of other people... Yes, it does give a sense of content or euphoria, but it doesn't last - simply because it's illusion. It is very commonly mistaken with happiness or fulfillment - ask any psychologist you wish.
There is really no reason for you guys to react that way - I didn't say anything new or shocking in my post. I simply presented it in a way that should have benefited more. I now feel that I shouldn't have commented at all, as it seems that people on this forum are not very different from other forums or real life - everyone is still selfish and thinks that everyone else has very much the same motives to do things. It does make me sad, but it also brings many possibilities to realize that this is not what we want; that we don't want to fight or frown, we all want to be happy, right? Of course, if you - or anyone else - actually want to fight, win, dominate, etc. I would like to apologize. Still, I would also like to ask you to stop flooding this thread and remind you that there are PMs if you'd like to address me, friends. If you think it's me the reason why you react that way, please - send me a PM. Lay it all out - I hope it would make you feel better about yourselves and maybe - just maybe - it could help you see that I mean well and if I'm going to be judged, I sure do not deserve the judgement I got from you.
I am who I am - that is simply not a way to evolve; that is a way to fail and create distance between you and others. Some call it privacy, but I think that privacy is just the name for the illusion of solitude; many people feel lonely when they have retreated, witch means they are not ready to be on their own... That is caused by the fact that they are simply not self-sufficient and too scared to look into their own ways of perception.
He who is unable to live in society, or who has no need because he is sufficient for himself, must be either a beast or a god.
Aristotle
What would you become? Any human-being that is capable of adequate - to the situation - self-actualization is considered intelligent. There is not a single intelligent God - they are all either SUPER-intelligent or something in that area... simply because there isn't a human conception that covers this characteristic of Gods. Why do I say this? There are things that simply cannot be explained with words. So, when we try to see beyond words, we actually look into what could be God-related. I support the idea that we are all Gods in a way. So, if you - right now - try and see beyond my words, you cannot miss the fact that I really mean well and this has been a great misunderstanding. I don't care who you are in a sense that I don't care who you think you are, because even people who try to understand humans can't seem to handle that task... So, there is really no way for you to judge me objectively - it is not a judgement when it has a purpose. If you do it with a purpose, then it's not objective. If you don't judge me objectively, then it's really not a judgement - it's more like an attempt to make yourselves feel differently about something... And - let's face it; it shouldn't be any of my bussiness. But, when you make it my bussiness and shove it up my face, I have nothing to do, but to write this long text in hopes to make things better and leave no hard feelings behind. What do you say?
Peace and Blessings.
Capt. Stickyfingers
Well-Known Member
^^
Who has an ego?
Edit: Actually, holy shit man, you're fucking batshit crazy. A regular fruitcake if you will.
Who has an ego?
Edit: Actually, holy shit man, you're fucking batshit crazy. A regular fruitcake if you will.