Employer discriminated against me for prescription.
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whitebb2727
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Well I'm in In Ky and we have a great manufacturing base. Most cities here offer 10 years tax free.
It just make it to where the unions are worthless for firing issues. Mainly good for safety and retirement and benefits.
WHATFG
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Sorry Saskabush...I got so wrapped up in the story I didn't even welcome you. Another thing you need to do is get to a doc and tell them how much grief this is causing you PHYSICALLY and make note of all the medications and side effects you've tried. Don't sweat the drug test...they already know you're going to fail...but the next one....grieve that bad boy and don't back down-they are counting on it!
whitebb2727
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It really should be called right to fire.
It basically mean I'm allowed to quit a job for any reason they can fire for any reason.
Union jobs are the exception to that but not all unions are created the same.
I'm sorry let me be clear on it. Right to work is the right to not be forced into a union.
WHATFG
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Hmmmmm
CalyxCrusher
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Welcome to the board, wish it was under better circumstances. Fuuuuuck, condolences my friend. I have grown up in mining towns all my life and have a little over a dozen friends who head under ground in various mines across Ontario every day. This is so bloody tricky because the mining safety standards go wayyyy above and beyond what any other workplace safety does except for MAYBE working in the oil fields. Technically since you aren't under the influence while at work you are in the right 100%. But due to their drug testing policies not allowing for anything in the system(at least in ontario), that's the tricky part. Even though there's the odd guy who puffs underground they're looking at it from a perspective of other peoples safety. Talk to your union rep and see what he/she can do for you.
I know out here in ontario they're changing rules. One buddy told me that his mine site is looking into not allowing energy drinks underground even though coffee is the lifeblood of most. Misunderstanding of facts, just like your case where you choose to use cannabis OFF company property and time. I've had issues with employers due to disability discrimination unrelated to cannabis but I would assume this certainly counts as disability discrimination as well. I'm in Ontario but assume the steps are the same.
Contact the Human Rights Tribunal for your province, this should be a start:
http://saskatchewanhumanrights.ca/
EDIT: Forgot to mention that if you are worried about legal costs(who isn't, shit is expensive and these cases can take a long time. Mine took 21 months) they can provide you with a number to free legal services. I forget the actual name , but it was offered to me here in Ontario, I'd certainly ask as it doesn't hurt
I know out here in ontario they're changing rules. One buddy told me that his mine site is looking into not allowing energy drinks underground even though coffee is the lifeblood of most. Misunderstanding of facts, just like your case where you choose to use cannabis OFF company property and time. I've had issues with employers due to disability discrimination unrelated to cannabis but I would assume this certainly counts as disability discrimination as well. I'm in Ontario but assume the steps are the same.
Contact the Human Rights Tribunal for your province, this should be a start:
http://saskatchewanhumanrights.ca/
EDIT: Forgot to mention that if you are worried about legal costs(who isn't, shit is expensive and these cases can take a long time. Mine took 21 months) they can provide you with a number to free legal services. I forget the actual name , but it was offered to me here in Ontario, I'd certainly ask as it doesn't hurt
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whitebb2727
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Lol. That's what I say. Unions are a hot subject here. I'm for them. I worked for a non union shop that worked on rail cars. It was dangerous. After seeing a man killed I quit.
CalyxCrusher
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Unions in dangerous work environments are a must IMO. Mining ESPECIALLY. I've met some very lucky people and heard stories of some truly horrifying shit that has happened underground. Makes the SAW movies seem Disney like.
whitebb2727
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You are very much correct. I have family that work mines.
CalyxCrusher
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Tons of friends in the industry here. I also have a friends father who would go to Brazil a cpl months a year to do equipment training in mines. He said we are beyond blessed with safety standards in mining here.
whitebb2727
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My dad travels a lot. We are blessed with alot of things.
Just to be clear for anyone that is hung up on the safety aspect of this whole post, there is a 10-12 hr buffer from when I medicate to my next shift.
Canadian College of family physicians states in their gudielines for prescribing cannabis for chronic pain and anxiety that a person shouldn't drive for 4 hrs after inhalation, 6 hrs after ingestion, and 8 hrs after if you experience euphoria. However you MAY be impaired for up to 24 hours
The Canadian Government website for healthy Canadians states effects last up to 8 hrs after smoking and 12 hours or longer if eaten.
And a very respected Dr. from the University of Victoria Center for Addictionss research did a paper that states:
We conclude that the acute effects of smoking cannabis impair performance for a period of about 4 hours; long term heavy use of cannabis can impair cognitive ability, but it is not clear that heavy cannabis users represent a meaningful job safety risk unless using before work or on the job.
Canadian College of family physicians states in their gudielines for prescribing cannabis for chronic pain and anxiety that a person shouldn't drive for 4 hrs after inhalation, 6 hrs after ingestion, and 8 hrs after if you experience euphoria. However you MAY be impaired for up to 24 hours
The Canadian Government website for healthy Canadians states effects last up to 8 hrs after smoking and 12 hours or longer if eaten.
And a very respected Dr. from the University of Victoria Center for Addictionss research did a paper that states:
We conclude that the acute effects of smoking cannabis impair performance for a period of about 4 hours; long term heavy use of cannabis can impair cognitive ability, but it is not clear that heavy cannabis users represent a meaningful job safety risk unless using before work or on the job.
johny sunset
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Sorry to hear about your hard ship. I don't have much input about your current work situation...but I may have somthing to help with your cluster headaches.
My half sister gets cluster headaches bad. I mean really bad and she couldn't find anything to help MJ included. Until one day she found a documentary on the net about Psilocybe (magic mushrooms) And cluster headaches. With nothing else to lose she tried it and has amazing results.
I Know this isn't really going to help with you your work drug policy. But moving forward it might be worth a try. And from what I gather from her she only has to do the treatment every 6-8 months to keep the cluster from coming back.
My half sister gets cluster headaches bad. I mean really bad and she couldn't find anything to help MJ included. Until one day she found a documentary on the net about Psilocybe (magic mushrooms) And cluster headaches. With nothing else to lose she tried it and has amazing results.
I Know this isn't really going to help with you your work drug policy. But moving forward it might be worth a try. And from what I gather from her she only has to do the treatment every 6-8 months to keep the cluster from coming back.
NorthernLass
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Reality check time:
I guess the first question to ask is: which is more important - your ability to use mmj or your job.
Note that I did not ask which was correct, which was fair, or which was right.
The supervisor-wife above is correct. This company has rules, they like their rules, they live by their rules, and the rules are on their side. To top it off, they also have the provincial mining regulations on their side. From this day forward you will be under the eagle eye of HR for every little thing you do. Even if you win - or especially if you win.
It is possible to give up your mmj and return to work, while continuing a legal battle against the company. But it will be long and fraught. And in the end: what will you gain? You may gain a victory for yourself and other medical marijuana users, but you will be the one that pays the price.
As much as gains in this sphere require a number of people willing to step up and take one for the team, this is not something that can be advised in good conscience. Taking one for the team is usually extremely costly financially, emotionally, job-wise and family/relationship-wise.
Again: is it worth the price? Only you know the answer to that one.
I guess the first question to ask is: which is more important - your ability to use mmj or your job.
Note that I did not ask which was correct, which was fair, or which was right.
The supervisor-wife above is correct. This company has rules, they like their rules, they live by their rules, and the rules are on their side. To top it off, they also have the provincial mining regulations on their side. From this day forward you will be under the eagle eye of HR for every little thing you do. Even if you win - or especially if you win.
It is possible to give up your mmj and return to work, while continuing a legal battle against the company. But it will be long and fraught. And in the end: what will you gain? You may gain a victory for yourself and other medical marijuana users, but you will be the one that pays the price.
As much as gains in this sphere require a number of people willing to step up and take one for the team, this is not something that can be advised in good conscience. Taking one for the team is usually extremely costly financially, emotionally, job-wise and family/relationship-wise.
Again: is it worth the price? Only you know the answer to that one.
The Hippy
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I know someone who also treat is headaches that way. Say it works for him
doingdishes
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there was a show about hallucingins and there was a spot on it about people with cluster headaches using magic mushrooms. they guy tripped once a month & his headaches were gone.maybe that would be an alternative???
here's a link for another article
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/05/longtime-sufferers-of-cluster-headaches-find-relief-in-psychedelics.html
here's a link for another article
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/05/longtime-sufferers-of-cluster-headaches-find-relief-in-psychedelics.html