Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

Smokexbreak said:
I’ll throw the pics up and a link to my journal on GC it’s got much more detail on the troubleshooting side of things. Been tracking down my issue the last couple days and I’m convinced I locked shit out based on the troubleshooting.

(Don’t feel like typing 3pages twice lol)

SmokexBreak’s perpetual grow journal


https://forum.grasscity.com/index.php?threads/SmokexBreak’s-perpetual-grow-journal.1530422/





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You've got a lot going on lol. I'm still going to have to ask you some questions, because fuck that site lol.

You're adding microbes and a bunch of other stuff... What's your base EC? Just water and base nutes?

What water are you using and base EC on that? Are you using Calmag?

Start there lol.
 
3rd Monkey said:
You've got a lot going on lol. I'm still going to have to ask you some questions, because fuck that site lol.

You're adding microbes and a bunch of other stuff... What's your base EC? Just water and base nutes?

What water are you using and base EC on that? Are you using Calmag?

Start there lol.
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Ah fuck lol hold on.

Okay so this is coco DTW

Been using strictly Megacrop and megacrop only. However I wasn’t watering with enough run off I know.... I know.... I’m a dumbass lol.

My water is RO water 0 EC

The mega crop has calmag in it.

Been watering daily at 4 grams which is 1.2 EC. Until I began seeing deficiencies this past Monday.

I bumped EC to 1.5

Yesterday I did a flush and then half strength nutes in the AM. Problems got worse between AM and PM feed. So I assumed it was hungry. Here’s the results from last nights feed.

LAST nights feed
PH in- 5.7
EC In- 1.7

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Ph out- 6.3
EC out- .8

#2
Ph out- 6.2
Ec out- 1.1

#3
Ph out- 6.3
Ec out- 1.3


Now after discussing this on GC with another coco grower we thought it was a lock out and possibly the MegaCrop.

So I switched to soil2coco’s masterblend recipe for today’s feeding.


Early flowering (week 3)

Magnesium sulfate- 1.6g

Calcium nitrate-.4g

All purpose-1.6g

1/2 dose flower fuel

Multiply the values x2 because the values were per one gallon and I filled a 2 gallon bucket with nute solution.

Also added 4ML of hydroguard and 1/4 tsp of recharge to get some microbes in my medium to help break down salt build up.


TODAYS FEED

PH in- 5.8
EC In- 1.2

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Ph out- 6.2
EC out- 1.2

#2
Ph out- 6.2
Ec out- 1.1

#3
Ph out- 6.2
Ec out- 1.2
 
I looked up that Megacrop. The concentrations are shitty for flower as a standalone. Weaned down as a base with flowering additives would be better.

Didn't look up the other one, but doesn't matter, that's not the issue in my opinion.

They are overfed a little bit, so it's good you backed off. That nasty shit your seeing that's not nute burn, is your pissed off roots. They won't recover, so don't worry as long as the problem doesn't get any worse. If they stop showing new signs, then they're on the mend.
 
3rd Monkey said:
I looked up that Megacrop. The concentrations are shitty for flower as a standalone. Weaned down as a base with flowering additives would be better.

Didn't look up the other one, but doesn't matter, that's not the issue in my opinion.

They are overfed a little bit, so it's good you backed off. That nasty shit your seeing that's not nute burn, is your pissed off roots. They won't recover, so don't worry as long as the problem doesn't get any worse. If they stop showing new signs, then they're on the mend.
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That’s what I’m hoping....

Sooo talking about that megacrop and it not being enough through flower... so I liked what was going on with the MC up until the issues came up so I got their line of nutes because they’re dirt fucking cheap and I use a lot of nutes with coco DTW. And this came in the mail today....

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Smokexbreak said:
That’s what I’m hoping....

Sooo talking about that megacrop and it not being enough through flower... so I liked what was going on with the MC up until the issues came up so I got their line of nutes because they’re dirt fucking cheap and I use a lot of nutes with coco DTW. And this came in the mail today....

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See, that's hard for me to get down with. I'm not shit talking their nutes at all, but I don't know what any of that is made of or concentrations.

It's much easier with simple nutrition, they're simple plants.

That's what it looks and sounds like your issue was/is, so hope it clears up.
 
3rd Monkey said:
See, that's hard for me to get down with. I'm not shit talking their nutes at all, but I don't know what any of that is made of or concentrations.

It's much easier with simple nutrition, they're simple plants.

That's what it looks and sounds like your issue was/is, so hope it clears up.
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You’d think a 1 part would be simple lol.
 
Think the air stone pumping so hard it’s knocking my roots off . Sh long root is gone . Did the same to bh . Diff is bh Has multiple roots (that are visible) sh only had the one .
 
Smokexbreak said:
You’d think a 1 part would be simple lol.
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The only way to tailor it to your plant is to dilute it and amend with another source of nutrition. What's in the MC? What do you add? How much? How much do you dilute the MC? That's what I mean...

1 part is simple if it's the right concentration and nutrition needs of your plant, but what if you have plantssss lol. They all eat different.
 
3rd Monkey said:
The only way to tailor it to your plant is to dilute it and amend with another source of nutrition. What's in the MC? What do you add? How much? How much do you dilute the MC? That's what I mean...

1 part is simple if it's the right concentration and nutrition needs of your plant, but what if you have plantssss lol. They all eat different.
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Have a half a bag of that stuff . Fucked a lot of my plants up.
 
iceman2494 said:
Think the air stone pumping so hard it’s knocking my roots off . Sh long root is gone . Did the same to bh . Diff is bh Has multiple roots (that are visible) sh only had the one .
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Yeah man I swear I thought my candy dawg was getting roots blasted off. Maybe a drop of silica?
 
Nutes are weird. Used to love FF big bloom. But now it burns the shit out of my plants. Also, never had a single problem with megacrop. But I ran out early in flower so.
 
Big Steve you’re the man!!!

Guys I have all your fuckin packages sitting right here. After work it’s 530-6, post office closed, gotta cook when I get home or lord knows no one else will.... just I’m crazy busy until fridays.
To make up for the delay though. I’ll get tracking on all of them and send you all the numbers

@bigggsteve89 @3rd Monkey @iceman2494 @ClydeWalters @Smokexbreak

@Hom3grown0815 holla man and you can sport a banana hammock with us
 
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