Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

iceman2494

iceman2494

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Being stoned where your one thought leads you to the next then to the next reading all this info. Thought popped up and thought maybe a foiler spray . Only one I have is a optic foliar. See if this helps . If not . Back to thinking .
 
Smokexbreak

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StickyBudHound said:
Magnesium is responsible for the color of the chlorophyll in the leaf. Looks like you either don't have enough or it's being locked out for some reason.

https://www.easy-grow.co.uk/using-magnesium-to-boost-photosynthesis/
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So here’s my thoughts after I’ve been dealing with this shit. With the QB’s they’ve been known to turn plants into calmag whores. So the need for extra mag at the very least is needed because of what that article talk says about. How mag boosts photosynthesis. It’s more Mag needed vs more calcium needed almost to the point of needing more mag than PK during veg anyway. Which is kinda obvious you need N,ca, mag in higher doses than P,K, I began getting mag deficiency before the K issue began and so I figured it was time to boost the feed to the next stage of my schedule. Which kept my all purpose and calcium at
the same amount in regards to grams to a gallon. Here’s what the veg schedule looks like.


Early veg.
Magnesium sulfate- .6g
Calcium nitrate- 1.2g
All purpose -1.2g
Silica blast-2.4ml
Hydroguard-2.4ml


Late veg.
Magnesium sulfate-1g
Calcium nitrate-2g
All purpose-2g
Silica blast-2.4ml
Hydroguard-2.4ml

I think I need to boost my mag and drop my all purpose to get the correct ratios during veg. I think my mag deficiency Is coming from the lack of mag and the K issue is coming from the PK being too high.

It’s either that or the silica running my damn PH through the roof one of the two. Which the silica also having K in it Makes sense as to why it’s locking everything out.

Tell me if my logic is flawed somewhere here.
 
Smokexbreak

Smokexbreak

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iceman2494 said:
Being stoned where your one thought leads you to the next then to the next reading all this info. Thought popped up and thought maybe a foiler spray . Only one I have is a optic foliar. See if this helps . If not . Back to thinking .
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Foliage sprays will Work as a temporary fix but once you hit Flower it’s worthless and the real problems below the surface
 
StickyBudHound

StickyBudHound

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Smokexbreak said:
So here’s my thoughts after I’ve been dealing with this shit. With the QB’s they’ve been known to turn plants into calmag whores. So the need for extra mag at the very least is needed because of what that article talk says about. How mag boosts photosynthesis. It’s more Mag needed vs more calcium needed almost to the point of needing more mag than PK during veg anyway. Which is kinda obvious you need N,ca, mag in higher doses than P,K, I began getting mag deficiency before the K issue began and so I figured it was time to boost the feed to the next stage of my schedule. Which kept my all purpose and calcium at
the same amount in regards to grams to a gallon. Here’s what the veg schedule looks like.


Early veg.
Magnesium sulfate- .6g
Calcium nitrate- 1.2g
All purpose -1.2g
Silica blast-2.4ml
Hydroguard-2.4ml


Late veg.
Magnesium sulfate-1g
Calcium nitrate-2g
All purpose-2g
Silica blast-2.4ml
Hydroguard-2.4ml

I think I need to boost my mag and drop my all purpose to get the correct ratios during veg. I think my mag deficiency Is coming from the lack of mag and the K issue is coming from the PK being too high.

It’s either that or the silica running my damn PH through the roof one of the two. Which the silica also having K in it Makes sense as to why it’s locking everything out.

Tell me if my logic is flawed somewhere here.
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Dude! Fuckin bravo! I think your logic is dead on. In fact, I think this teaches just how little of the Si to put into your feed in DWC. In soil, it will be a little different but the warning rings true with what I was finding as "pro tips" in different forums where everyone raved about what it did for their grows but to use very little of it and a little goes a long way.
 
Smokexbreak

Smokexbreak

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StickyBudHound said:
Dude! Fuckin bravo! I think your logic is dead on. In fact, I think this teaches just how little of the Si to put into your feed in DWC. In soil, it will be a little different but the warning rings true with what I was finding as "pro tips" in different forums where everyone raved about what it did for their grows but to use very little of it and a little goes a long way.
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Your research and articles helped me put this together I really appreciate the posts!

This to me made sense plus where they were saying there’s generally enough calcium being stored but not used the light bulb went off.

I mean this does make sense based on what we’ve read right?
 
StickyBudHound

StickyBudHound

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Smokexbreak said:
Your research and articles helped me put this together I really appreciate the posts!

This to me made sense plus where they were saying there’s generally enough calcium being stored but not used the light bulb went off.

I mean this does make sense based on what we’ve read right?
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IMO it does.

This is the stuff that I think mastering is the next game changer after dialing in lights and environment.
 
StickyBudHound

StickyBudHound

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Smokexbreak said:
Man I woulda been shit up a creek two years ago lol. Honestly probably woulda been shit up a creek had you not posted those articles. I really appreciate it.
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Thanks bro! Im glad to help. It helps me just as much as you, believe it or not. Right now I'm devising my plan for next grow based off of everything I've learned from all previous grows, including this one. This is grow bank gold. I'm kind of a research junkie when I get into stuff. It's my kind of OCD.

Please make sure to tag me when/if you see a result you think is based off our hypothesis for each scenario. Like I said, I really do think your logic is right on this so, I want to see what happens.
 
3rd Monkey

3rd Monkey

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Here's how I see it, but I'm no expert.

You guys are over simplifying and over complicating it at the same time a bit in my opinion. Not being negative at all, just trying to point you in the right direction.

Look into valence. It will give you the exact understanding of how nutrients are exchanged, how they bind one another, how they bond to mediums, etc.

That's why I always suggest getting individual ppm of each nutrient so you can control exactly what your plant is getting and there's no guessing. Sure it takes time, but it pays off if you have an issue.
 
StickyBudHound

StickyBudHound

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3rd Monkey said:
Here's how I see it, but I'm no expert.

You guys are over simplifying and over complicating it at the same time a bit in my opinion. Not being negative at all, just trying to point you in the right direction.

Look into valence. It will give you the exact understanding of how nutrients are exchanged, how they bind one another, how they bond to mediums, etc.

That's why I always suggest getting individual ppm of each nutrient so you can control exactly what your plant is getting and there's no guessing. Sure it takes time, but it pays off if you have an issue.
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True, yet another level of knowledge about nutrients that deserves thorough study. Actually, I'm glad you pointed it out. The electrical conductivity properties come into play with combinations of nutes.

I think in a logical sense though, going with a viewpoint from how nutes can be antagonistic or synergistic to each other, Smoke's theory works for this deficiency.
 
Smokexbreak

Smokexbreak

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3rd Monkey said:
As far as the QBs, makes perfect sense.

Extra transpiration, extra mag to support it. Good work smoke.
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Thank you I’m going to look into nutrient valence. I’m just glad stocky was posting articles it all just kinda came Together
Especially after looking at my feeding schedule
 
Smokexbreak

Smokexbreak

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StickyBudHound said:
Thanks bro! Im glad to help. It helps me just as much as you, believe it or not. Right now I'm devising my plan for next grow based off of everything I've learned from all previous grows, including this one. This is grow bank gold. I'm kind of a research junkie when I get into stuff. It's my kind of OCD.

Please make sure to tag me when/if you see a result you think is based off our hypothesis for each scenario. Like I said, I really do think your logic is right on this so, I want to see what happens.
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I will do! Thank you again!!
 
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