Ever smoke a CLEAR joint ?

mygirls said:

my mind thinks im smoking plastic. LOL

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this is what I always think.

First time I saw them was post roll, I thought someone just rolled up the plastic from a blunt wrap. Like the plastic that keeps it fresh but is part of the packaging, like the straw.

That reminds me, one time I was smoking a blunt with these kids, and it was getting to the roach, one kid takes the staw outta the blunt wrap wrapper and sticks it in the roach, like a ghetto roach clip kind of type thing, it was long ways so you had to hit it outta the straw now, next thing you know everyone is hacking up a lung. Duh. It gets to me I pull out the melted ass straw and say it is a really bad idea.

hope that was the last time they pulled that one. Smoking plastic or rubber in your weed is the worst. Watch out for rubber gromets too. They get hot and melt.

Those look nice. Anyone ever try the flavored papers?

those papers are bunk !

they are made of vegetable glutamin, the same extraction used to make plastic and celophane, no thanks

looks cool to see the smoke passing through the joint, but at what cost. Personally I wouldnt have posted that roll on the internet but whatever

Resident Kush said:

those papers are bunk !

they are made of vegetable glutamin, the same extraction used to make plastic and celophane, no thanks

looks cool to see the smoke passing through the joint, but at what cost. Personally I wouldnt have posted that roll on the internet but whatever

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your argument is bunk
you think paper is healthier ?
more things are added to this to make paper.

that like saying "who smokes hemp , they use that shit to make plastic and rope...no thanks !"

does any one have problems with those things not staying lit.i do .other than that there cool for smoking with a group where it stays getting puffed on real quick and stays lit

420weedman said:

your argument is bunk
you think paper is healthier ?
more things are added to this to make paper.

that like saying "who smokes hemp , they use that shit to make plastic and rope...no thanks !"

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nope its not healthy, but its not cancer causing either .. Also I roll amsterdam so less paper. For the record I use the volcano and glass pieces over anything else.

Say what you want, your the one smoking plastic !
I feel there should have been a "they're bunk" option, cause they are.

Resident Kush said:

nope its not healthy, but its not cancer causing either .. Also I roll amsterdam so less paper. For the record I use the volcano and glass pieces over anything else.

Say what you want, your the one smoking plastic !
I feel there should have been a "they're bunk" option, cause they are.

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paper has more cancer causing material then these....

you think still think its plastic, why dont you read what cellulose is .


using your logic, smoking weed is smoking plastic as well .... because plastic can somehow be made from it ......... jesus

The ones I smoke have "made of non plastic 100% celulose" writen in the pack. I dont trust packs so much, but anyways I rarely smoke joints.

They are from aLeda company (will not post their website here, but a google search will do) and the're top stuff!

Welcome to 2002

i dnt like em they burn slow but are real harsh

The Cyclones clear blunts are fantastic. Easy to fill, no taste at all. I get them in bulk for about 60 cents apiece. Made from all natural cotton mallow so safer to smoke than almost any other wrap. They also come with individual tubes which is great for traveling. We pack up a couple for trips and you can stash them just about anywhere.

They always come unrolled on me, and they are hard to keep lit with some super sticky rolled up in em.

Yo man these things are pretty badass, but rolling them in the dark is a fucking hassle.

backwoods!

rolling anything in the dark requries some skill

Personally, I am very wary of the 'clear papers', as to make cellulose film, the process is a little... well, lets just say the precursor product, one step before its ready to smoke, is ready to go into rounds of ammunition... that's right, these are made by reducing nitrocellulose with acetone... Nitrocellulose is primarily used as 'smokeless' gunpowder, and has a natural green-gray color. The acetone completely removes the nitrogen compound from the cellulose, leaving behind cellulose film. The nitrogenous portion being reprocessed into nitric acid, and used to make more cellulose into nitrocellulose. Cellulose film, is used for many things, including sealing circuit boards via a solvent based solution. With just all the nasty toxic chemical processes that these have gone through (as well as most normal papers themselves) I avoid them personally. Also, natural cellulose film is not perfectly clear... it is usually very hazy, and opaque, but through heat treatment, and other refining processes, can be made clear. Cellulose film is being used in most biodegradable films and packages, along with several other 'natural based films' such as Chitin based products (think shrimp shell), gelatin based products, and cellulose actually being one of the older 'natural' clear film product. However, keep in mind that cellulose film's primary role is the OUTER lining of sunchips bags, and other biodegradable packaging, yet with food, it is never in direct contact. It is also used to line frozen dinner trays (ones using a paper based type board) marked as being biodegradable.

Cellulose film like this was first produced as 'safety' film, as original film reels were made of nitrocellulose (Inglorious Basterds anyone?). Cellulose films are commonly acetate polymer chains of cellulose, and thus actually technically considered a type of polymeric plastic, though it is not petro-chemical base. Thus saying they are not plastic, is quite a misnomer. When burning, these 'papers' will produce traces of acetic acid, due to the heating and oxidation in the presence of moisture (from air, and the contents of a joint), which can lead to respiratory irritation and damage, as well as oral sensitivity, bleeding, and also decay of tooth enamel. Even if refined to get rid of all acetone base chemicals, and using a none acetate structure, only other options call for use of glycerin as a binder... let me just tell you, that cellulose and glycerin in one package, containing these compounds in their respective ratios... is basically selling you a precursor to gunpowder... just add nitric acid and heat to 180 degrees F, and voila... double base powder... so if you really want to ingest more known carcinogens, and a known mutagen (from the burning of glycerin... which oxidizes into glycerol, then into some toxic compounds upon application of heat, not enough heat to burn and oxidize the toxic compund...) be my guest. The RAW brand transluscent papers are the only ones shown not to produce traces of the toxic chemical, due to their using raw pulp in the process.

Now I will only also use US made papers, and prefer rice and hemp based papers as they require the least amount of processing, and impart the fewest amount of carcinogens.

The two thing I will never use... clear papers, and wired papers...

KaliKitsune said:

They always come unrolled on me, and they are hard to keep lit with some super sticky rolled up in em.

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Super sticky is good for bowls... not for joints lol...

If weed is super sticky, it usually means it is uncured... and prob. less than two weeks from harvest. Some people prefer fresher weed, but many people, myself included, prefer properly cured herb, that burns much smoother, and allows for a true monster joint to burn properly...

As I have long told friends... there are two kinds of weed... bowl weed, and joint weed... the difference is a few more weeks of proper curing.

potsomker420 said:

rolling anything in the dark requries some skill

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Which is why they made rollers... lol... for when rolling in the dark backseat of a car on the way to a concert when stuck in shitty ass LA traffic... lol

mygirls said:

my mind thinks im smoking plastic. LOL

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me too! I abandoned those years ago... taste and feels like your smoking cellophane

I think they're awesome. They seem to burn slower and are pretty much tasteless. I also think they look pretty cool too. I think they're a little harder to roll though. Especially the king size. The texture is weird. I guess you just have to get used to them.