Every usable grow light under the sun :) - *stelthy.

stelthy · Oct 21, 2011

I have decided to start a thread where I am openly inviting members to post pics and info of every kind of usable light source, ie MH, HPS, PLASMA, CFL, LED, and all variations all different makes, new lamps old lamps etc etc including reflectors/packaged lights etc...

I have decided to start with a new light I was notified of today :-

GAVITA PRO 600/1000W Below I've added a LINK!

http://www.gavita-holland.com/

They seem pretty good but I am interested to see if anyone has used them yet? and am also interested in how they perform

.. They are pretty pricey : Approx £500.00 for a single 1000W setup & double ended lamp...

There was mad hype about these in the store but... I like to do my research before shelling out that kind of money

Anyhow, thats to start the ball rolling...

"PLEASE ADD AS MANY DIFFERENT TYPES AND VARIATIONS OF LAMPS/LIGHTING AS POSSIBLE (All grow friendly lights only inc. UV-B)"

I want to see the good the bad & the ugly and everything in-between !!!

Even custom built lights.. add it !!! add pics! info! reviews! RATE THEM 1 - 10 !!!

1 = CRAP

10= AMAZING

Go into as much detail as you can!!

1st 20 reply's with pics etc gets some official STELTHY +REP!

Lets make this the definitive thread for all Grow associated lighting!! - STELTHY :leaf:

cannawizard · Oct 21, 2011

**gonna get a couple of the 600ws w/ the philips digi bulbs

, #s shows lumens/par/umoles.. looks like something worth trying (imo)

--cheers Stelthy

Tebin · Oct 21, 2011

I have this deal and for the money it's great. i got a digital ballast with both hps AND mh bulbs included and in all honesty I couldn't have even got those locally without spending ~125 on bulbs alone. The local shop had the same package deal for 250 so i went with the online one. hope this helps yah as it's been about 4 months of use so far and no issues.

stelthy · Oct 21, 2011

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This is another lamp I'd like to submit since I have just acquired one

The Digital Digi-Lux 400W Dual Spectrum lamp specifically designed for use with digital ballasts, it is the most superior lamp I have come across thats intended soley for use with digital ballasts and offers 57,000 Lumens and if like me you have a digital ballast with a boost button ie/ a 'Lumatek' I am sure that number would significantly increase

On import though they are 'hella - expensive' !!! approx £120.00 for just the one bulb!! .. But I wanted it and didn't care about the cost, I hope to find a company that actually imports them so I only have to pay around half that price

These lamps are available in 400, 600 and 1000W variations and also a MH version !! - STELTHY :leaf:

Tebin · Oct 21, 2011

http://www.amazon.com/Ulti-lumenx-P...DLCS/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1319206733&sr=8-8

there is the link if you need/want it.

stelthy · Oct 21, 2011

Tebin said:
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I have this deal and for the money it's great. i got a digital ballast with both hps AND mh bulbs included and in all honesty I couldn't have even got those locally without spending ~125 on bulbs alone. The local shop had the same package deal for 250 so i went with the online one. hope this helps yah as it's been about 4 months of use so far and no issues.

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What make are the bulbs and the ballast...its a little hard to tell from the pictures

But I'll still +REP! ya for posting a pic

- STELTHY

stelthy · Oct 21, 2011

Tebin said:
http://www.amazon.com/Ulti-lumenx-P...DLCS/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1319206733&sr=8-8

there is the link if you need/want it.

Ah thats better! Cheers for posting the LINK

the HPS lamp looks similar to the shape of a Hortilux! Ah... just squinted my eyes and the boxes read 'Ulti-lumen-X' I've not heard of themm before?!! Have you had a chance to use them yet? What make is the ballast and how do you rate it? - STELTHY :leaf:

stelthy · Oct 21, 2011

Is anyone using Plasma Lighting ?? - STELTHY :leaf:

ClamDigger · Oct 21, 2011

stelthy said:
This is another lamp I'd like to submit since I have just acquired one The Digital Digi-Lux 400W Dual Spectrum lamp specifically designed for use with digital ballasts, it is the most superior lamp I have come across thats intended soley for use with digital ballasts and offers 57,000 Lumens and if like me you have a digital ballast with a boost button ie/ a 'Lumatek' I am sure that number would significantly increase

On import though they are 'hella - expensive' !!! approx £120.00 for just the one bulb!! .. But I wanted it and didn't care about the cost, I hope to find a company that actually imports them so I only have to pay around half that price

These lamps are available in 400, 600 and 1000W variations and also a MH version !! - STELTHY

sorry to hear you payed that much....
i recently got a 600w MH Digilux from Greners for around half that.
here is a Link to a 600w HPS for less then 80$.
http://www.greners.com/i/grow-lights/hid-bulbs/type/metal-halide/digilux-400w-mh-grow-light.html
also, Lumateks are pretty sweet. soon i will have a Quantum to run beside my Lumatek, and i will do a comparison.

Total Head · Oct 23, 2011

for veg i use 360 watts of t5, mixed spectrum, 80% grow spectrum 20% bloom spectrum (all sunleaves gear). for vegging i rate these lights between 7 and 8.5. they will never do what a mh will do but their power impresses me nontheless, and if you lst you will be very pleased. i have this light in a really ghetto homeade tent and it's cooled by 2 low watt table fans (one for cooling one for exhaust)

for flower i use a 400w hps with a lumatek digital ballast, an eye hortilux super hps bulb, and a sunleaves "arctic sun" enclosed hood. i would rate this light setup a 9.5. it could only be improved by adding more watts or improving the environmental control, neither of which are in the cards right now. this light is in a closet, and the closet setup is pretty ghetto, also. it is also cooled by nothing more than a table fan blowing on the bulb.

all things considered, this setup has produced some serious results. i wish i had some better pics but you get the idea. some of the pics are over a year old i think but it's all i got.

stelthy · Oct 23, 2011

Total Head said:
for veg i use 360 watts of t5, mixed spectrum, 80% grow spectrum 20% bloom spectrum (all sunleaves gear). for vegging i rate these lights between 7 and 8.5. they will never do what a mh will do but their power impresses me nontheless, and if you lst you will be very pleased. i have this light in a really ghetto homeade tent and it's cooled by 2 low watt table fans (one for cooling one for exhaust)

for flower i use a 400w hps with a lumatek digital ballast, an eye hortilux super hps bulb, and a sunleaves "arctic sun" enclosed hood. i would rate this light setup a 9.5. it could only be improved by adding more watts or improving the environmental control, neither of which are in the cards right now. this light is in a closet, and the closet setup is pretty ghetto, also. it is also cooled by nothing more than a table fan blowing on the bulb.

all things considered, this setup has produced some serious results. i wish i had some better pics but you get the idea. some of the pics are over a year old i think but it's all i got.

Excellent, cheers for adding pic + ratings

+REP! for you sir

... How long does your Eye-Hortilux bulb last in your Lumatek "Digital" Ballast ?? only Hortilux's lamps are intended for use with Magnetic ballast's! and its been said the lamps die early hence I use the Digi-Lux (digital bulb) on a Lumatek "Digital" Ballast, be glad to hear back from you

- STELTHY

Phaeton · Oct 23, 2011

Overhead shot.

In the center is 4000K sunpulse, same output as the 2 CMH to the right. 430 watt HPS far right, can't tell it from 400 watt HPS. 2 400 watt HPS left of center. Sodium light needs diluted is why only 3 HPS. Far left is 2 MH.
In between the MH and HPS is a small flat reflector with the 450 nm aquarium HID, this sky blue bulb has the same effect as flashing UV at the room, approximately a week earlier peak oil, not more, not better, earlier.

The right side grows sativa, the left side grows indica. Sidelights are different also, on the right are 16 T8 bulbs set vertical, 5000K

residential with high green and blue. On the left are 8 T5 bulbs set horizontal, 4 lower are 620-670nm aquarium grow and the upper 4 are quantum 6500K growtubes.

The setup works very well overall. It grew over a years time as lights got tested in the small test budroom I had to build.

This is a UVB test going on. 136 watts of Zilla desert 50 and reptisun 10 on the sides and 800 watts CMH on top., at close range the UVB will burn the hairs right off the bud.

Total Head · Oct 23, 2011

stelthy said:
Excellent, cheers for adding pic + ratings +REP! for you sir ... How long does your Eye-Hortilux bulb last in your Lumatek "Digital" Ballast ?? only Hortilux's lamps are intended for use with Magnetic ballast's! and its been said the lamps die early hence I use the Digi-Lux (digital bulb) on a Lumatek "Digital" Ballast, be glad to hear back from you - STELTHY

people bring that up a lot about the hortilux bulb in the digi ballast. the bulb has been burning for around 18 months on an almost continuous 12/12 cycle in the same lumatek ballast (the bulb and ballast are the same age). i'm sure it's not as bright as it once was but my cheapo needle light meter still reads off the charts at a foot away, and i haven't had issues with airy buds or anything. maybe i won't be so lucky with my next bulb but the combo has been working great for me. i don't use the super lumens feature on the ballast, so that could be a factor.

stelthy · Oct 23, 2011

Phaeton said:
Overhead shot.View attachment 1851508In the center is 4000K sunpulse, same output as the 2 CMH to the right. 430 watt HPS far right, can't tell it from 400 watt HPS. 2 400 watt HPS left of center. Sodium light needs diluted is why only 3 HPS. Far left is 2 MH.
In between the MH and HPS is a small flat reflector with the 450 nm aquarium HID, this sky blue bulb has the same effect as flashing UV at the room, approximately a week earlier peak oil, not more, not better, earlier.

The right side grows sativa, the left side grows indica. Sidelights are different also, on the right are 16 T8 bulbs set vertical, 5000KView attachment 1851580 residential with high green and blue. On the left are 8 T5 bulbs set horizontal, 4 lower are 620-670nm aquarium grow and the upper 4 are quantum 6500K growtubes.View attachment 1851583

The setup works very well overall. It grew over a years time as lights got tested in the small test budroom I had to build.View attachment 1851565This is a UVB test going on. 136 watts of Zilla desert 50 and reptisun 10 on the sides and 800 watts CMH on top., at close range the UVB will burn the hairs right off the bud.

Very cool setup man! I was looking at the sky-blue's in an aquarium shop... what benefits will come from using this light? is it a similar UV-B output ? +REP! for great pics n info

- STELTHY

stelthy · Oct 23, 2011

Total Head said:
people bring that up a lot about the hortilux bulb in the digi ballast. the bulb has been burning for around 18 months on an almost continuous 12/12 cycle in the same lumatek ballast (the bulb and ballast are the same age). i'm sure it's not as bright as it once was but my cheapo needle light meter still reads off the charts at a foot away, and i haven't had issues with airy buds or anything. maybe i won't be so lucky with my next bulb but the combo has been working great for me. i don't use the super lumens feature on the ballast, so that could be a factor.

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I thought I'd post the 2 side by side to check out and similarities/differences in wave-length etc... I am surprised the Hortilux has lasted that long...but am equally happy, your review sounds good and if its still churning out nice big dense buds then thats great news

!! - STELTHY :leaf:

Phaeton · Oct 23, 2011

It was a UVA study that got me going on those 450 nm's. UVA has the effect of increased oils at an earlier stage of growth, leaving the overall total percentage at full maturity unchanged. The study noted that this effect was not chemically dependent on UVA, but blue between 420-470 has the identical effect. I coupled this with research on flashing UV at plants during bud cycle. The results showed shortening the time to max oil.
I did back to back 365 nm UVA and 450 nm sky blue and found similar results. The blue is more usable for chlorophyll and less expensive, so blue it is, full time with the other lights. The T5 actinic's did not have this effect, but they were sidelights and not 400 watt HID's overhead.

UVB does the same for early oil when flashed at the plant, but the plant also undergoes chemical responses not available to UVA and blue. The test room is looking for a strain responding to high level UVB with a THC modifying terpenoid. My first bagseed sativa did not respond well, The Northern Lights clone currently in there is not done.

spandy · Oct 23, 2011

I bet my 15 year old, loud as fuck hydrofarm ballast with a shitty 30 dollar bulb can out grow most of you guys with your magnetic ballasts and bullshit 150 dollar light bulbs.

It's like giving the kid down the street the fastest car ever made and telling him to race some dude who's wearing used shoes. The kid in the fast car is going to wreck and kill himself anyway thus losing the race by fail, so why all the hype about what kind of car he's driving? It's going straight into a tree anyway, so wtf?

cannawizard · Oct 23, 2011

Phaeton said:
It was a UVA study that got me going on those 450 nm's. UVA has the effect of increased oils at an earlier stage of growth, leaving the overall total percentage at full maturity unchanged. The study noted that this effect was not chemically dependent on UVA, but blue between 420-470 has the identical effect. I coupled this with research on flashing UV at plants during bud cycle. The results showed shortening the time to max oil.
I did back to back 365 nm UVA and 450 nm sky blue and found similar results. The blue is more usable for chlorophyll and less expensive, so blue it is, full time with the other lights. The T5 actinic's did not have this effect, but they were sidelights and not 400 watt HID's overhead.

UVB does the same for early oil when flashed at the plant, but the plant also undergoes chemical responses not available to UVA and blue. The test room is looking for a strain responding to high level UVB with a THC modifying terpenoid. My first bagseed sativa did not respond well, The Northern Lights clone currently in there is not done.

*some phenos off SS ak47 are UVb compliant

if your looking more straight sats, try asia type landrace

stelthy · Oct 23, 2011

spandy said:
I bet my 15 year old, loud as fuck hydrofarm ballast with a shitty 30 dollar bulb can out grow most of you guys with your magnetic ballasts and bullshit 150 dollar light bulbs.

It's like giving the kid down the street the fastest car ever made and telling him to race some dude who's wearing used shoes. The kid in the fast car is going to wreck and kill himself anyway thus losing the race by fail, so why all the hype about what kind of car he's driving? It's going straight into a tree anyway, so wtf?

What wattage is your Hydrofarm ballast & what make is your "Shitty $30.00 bulb" ?? Have you done a side by side test with any other make of ballast and bulb ?? I don't doubt your experience but would be interested in if you have made any comparisons or whether these are just opinions

?

If you can post pics of your ballast and lamp and provide info on each including make, model, and wattage plus a possible pic of your high yielding harvest I'd be glad to have it here on this thread and have my finger ready on the +REP! button

...

This isn't so much a thread to see who can out do each other but a thread that purely shows different types of lighting/fixtures/ballasts that "WILL" grow cannabis with useful info attached...

I am wanting every usable light source make and model listed here, regardless of its power and performance... so long as it does actually help in the growing process of Cannabis, hope, to hear back from you with pics and info

- STELTHY

Phaeton · Oct 23, 2011

The combination of where I live and the way I live makes it catch as catch can on the seed varieties available. I read your UV strains results and they are on my watch list of seeds to acquire.
The anecdotes from the seventies, the basis of my growing tests, are from a time when 6% THC in a bud was phenomenal, so the UV effects I am reaching for may exist in my head but not in the real world.
But until a few known strains are grown hot enough to fry the hairs off the buds I cannot be sure.

UVB veg blend.

Every usable grow light under the sun :) - *stelthy.

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